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Game 33: Suns @ Bulls

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Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#1 » by NTB » Tue Jan 7, 2014 4:47 pm

When: Tuesday January 7, 2014, 6:00 PM local time (8:00 EST)

Where: WGN America United Center, Chicago, Illinois

Watch/Listen: TV: Fox Sports AZ Radio: 620 KTAR

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Last Meeting:

This is the first meeting this season. The Chicago Bulls lead the all-time series 64-63. A Suns win would knot things up.

The teams last met in Chicago on January 12, 2013. The Suns took a 66-56 lead in the third quarter and the Bulls never pulled back within single digits. The gap reached a fairly chasmic 19 points in the fourth quarter of a 97-81 rout. Luis Scola led the Suns with 22 points and seven rebounds, while former fan favorite Michael Beasley scored 20 points in 21 minutes. Goran Dragic scored seven points on 2-8 shooting. Joakim Noah (10 points/13 rebounds) and Carlos Boozer (15 points/10 rebounds) both recorded double-doubles in the loss.

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Team Bios:

Chicago Bulls: 14-18

Points per game: 91.3 (30) Points allowed: 92.2 (2)

ORtg: 99.4 (29) DRtg: 100.3 (2)

The Bulls come into this game winners of five of their last seven. During this stretch they have held six of those seven opponents to 91 points or less. Despite their parsimonious defense, the Bulls have struggled to a record four games below .500 due to a lack of offensive punch. The team has muddled along to shoot a meager 42.2% from the field this season and now they will be without leading scorer Luol Deng, who was traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers last night. The team is also dealing with an injury to their second leading scorer Carlos Boozer. Boozer is questionable for tonight's game with a sore right knee which might sideline him until the Bulls next game Friday night.

Injuries and offense aside, the Bulls still hold the sixth position in the standings of the mighty Eastern Conference. With their recent play they have even climbed to within 2.5 games of the third place Atlanta Hawks. Their last game was a 91-84 victory against that Hawks team as three starters recorded double-doubles in points and rebounds and Mike Dunleavy scored 20 off the bench. Boozer did not play in the game.

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Phoenix Suns: 20-12

Points per game: 103.7 (8) Points allowed: 100.5 (15)

ORtg: 108.1 (9) DRtg: 104.7 (11)

The Suns have won three of four, six of eight, and 11 of 14. A scalding offense has scored 100+ points in 11 of the last 13 games and the team has won by double digits in each of their past five victories. Things have been going rather swimmingly. But (there's always a but with me) not everything is butterflies and bumblebees. The Suns two recent losses have come against a team last in the league in pace (the Memphis Grizzlies at 90.0) and a team that you may be surprised to hear is fourth in the NBA in DRtg (the Golden St. Warriors at 101.0). The Bulls are like a marriage of these two teams as the have the third lowest pace (90.8) and second best DRtg. Chicago is the peanut butter and chocolate of slow and stingy.

The Suns are dealing with their own injured player, Eric Bledsoe, who may be unavailable for the team's five game road trip with a sprained right knee. Bledsoe will be reevaluated as early as Thursday or Friday. Leandro Barbosa may provide some unexpected relief as he was just inked to a 10 day contract... or the Suns may just want to have an oh sh&^ button handy (just in case). Phoenix won their last game, a scrimmage against the Milwaukee Bucks, 116-100 behind the pyrotechnics of Channing Frye and Gerald Green, who combined for 46 points and 10 three pointers. Ish Smith recorded eight assists (and a thunderous dunk which is now his screensaver) off the bench in Bledsoe's absence.

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What To Watch For:

The Dragon - Goran has averaged 21.3 points and 8.2 assists in the eight games that Bledsoe has missed. On the season he is posting 18.8 points and 5.9 assists. Kirk Hinrich is averaging 7.8 points and 4.7 assists per game. The Suns should win this matchup, right? The Suns have to win this matchup, right? Well, I guess the Suns did blow out the Bulls with Dragic scoring seven last season... Still, capitalizing on a lopsided mismatch couldn't hurt.

Pace - The Suns are 8th in the league in possessions per game (95.6) while the Bulls are 28th (90.8). The uglier this game gets the more likely the Bulls win. The Suns' goal should be to get this baby to Lawler's Law. They need to force the tempo, especially since they have bogged down in their halfcourt offense at times. It will really be a battle of teams with antipodean styles.

Travel Plans - The Suns were initially supposed to leave for Chicago yesterday afternoon, but a polar vortex in the midwest (that just sounds colder than a hell made of ice) prevented the team from flying. They should be boarding a plane around the same time I'm posting this (8:30 AM local time). They will still get there in plenty of time for the game, but people are creatures of habit and this deviates from regular travel plans.

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For What it's Worth:

The Chicago Bulls have only had a player score 30+ points in a game twice this season (Boozer [injured] and Deng [traded] once each). Goran Dragic has scored 30+ points four times.

The Bulls are 0-6 this season when their opponent scores 100 points.

The Final Word(s):

The Suns really need to get off on the right foot (or maybe the left foot if it's one of those Euro steps) on this roadie. They will potentially be road weary and fatigued on the back end of this five game, seven day adventure so picking up W's while they are fresh is imperative. Now that I've went to lengths to disparage the Bulls offense they'll probably drop a buck ten.

Also, screw all these damn injuries. Rose vs. Bledsoe would have been awesome.


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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#2 » by carey » Tue Jan 7, 2014 4:51 pm

It's not the break that bothers me. It's the fact that their flight yesterday kept getting delayed, then delayed again until they pushed it all the way back to this morning. So a 3 and 1/2 hour flight in the freezing cold and they have to play tonight? I think we come out sluggish to say the least.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#3 » by Sundreamer » Tue Jan 7, 2014 5:03 pm

The Bulls are in full-tank mode so this should be a W for Phoenix, regardless of everything
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Post#4 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Jan 7, 2014 5:07 pm

Can't wait for the game and especially seeing Barbosa back in Phoenix.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#5 » by RunDogGun » Tue Jan 7, 2014 5:37 pm

The game is on WGN, if anyone gets this channel. Also with Deng traded, we should do better than expected.
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Post#6 » by King4Day » Tue Jan 7, 2014 5:38 pm

No Deng should def help us.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#7 » by INFORMER-93 » Tue Jan 7, 2014 5:45 pm

Sundreamer wrote:The Bulls are in full-tank mode


No they're not. And what does that even mean?
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Post#8 » by NapoleonII » Tue Jan 7, 2014 6:02 pm

My prediction,

LB goes off for 25 pts and 3 three's.
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Post#9 » by INFORMER-93 » Tue Jan 7, 2014 6:06 pm

Is LB available to play tonight?
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#10 » by RunDogGun » Tue Jan 7, 2014 6:08 pm

NapoleonII wrote:My prediction,

LB goes off for 25 pts and 3 three's.


I actually don't think Jeff will play LB that much in this game. Has LB even been in a practice yet? Although LB has had good games against Chi in the past. :D
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#11 » by NTB » Tue Jan 7, 2014 6:11 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:My prediction,

LB goes off for 25 pts and 3 three's.


I actually don't think Jeff will play LB that much in this game. Has LB even been in a practice yet? Although LB has had good games against Chi in the past. :D


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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#12 » by King4Day » Tue Jan 7, 2014 7:06 pm

INFORMER-93 wrote:
Sundreamer wrote:The Bulls are in full-tank mode


No they're not. And what does that even mean?


I'd disagree. Sure they are trying to save money, but at the expense of a guy who can help them win?
They are certainly aware of the situation. They save money and get no player assets in return. They are worse off without Deng and it will show in the standings.
It could be a perfect storm if they land a top 3 pick.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#13 » by King4Day » Tue Jan 7, 2014 7:07 pm

INFORMER-93 wrote:Is LB available to play tonight?


I read he was signing his 10day contract today. I think he'll be there, even if only for short stints.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#14 » by INFORMER-93 » Tue Jan 7, 2014 7:18 pm

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INFORMER-93 wrote:
Sundreamer wrote:The Bulls are in full-tank mode


No they're not. And what does that even mean?


I'd disagree. Sure they are trying to save money, but at the expense of a guy who can help them win?
They are certainly aware of the situation. They save money and get no player assets in return. They are worse off without Deng and it will show in the standings.
It could be a perfect storm if they land a top 3 pick.


I think that smacks of media-created tanking hysteria.

Saying they're in full-tank mode is a misrepresentation of their situation and is hardly accurate.

Deng turned down their offer for a contract extension. So Chicago was face with a few very significant realities:

1. They're paying the luxury tax for a losing team.
2. They're going to lose Deng for nothing.

So they made the responsible and smart business decision, while also doing the prudent, competitive move. Deng is not a difference-maker for them this season. They were losing with him and they'll lose without him.

None of the above means that the coach or the players remaining are just going to start laying down for opponents. So while it helps facing an opponent with a recently reduced level of talent, it by no means says that they aren't going to fight you and make you earn the W.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#15 » by RunDogGun » Tue Jan 7, 2014 8:14 pm

INFORMER-93 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
I'd disagree. Sure they are trying to save money, but at the expense of a guy who can help them win?
They are certainly aware of the situation. They save money and get no player assets in return. They are worse off without Deng and it will show in the standings.
It could be a perfect storm if they land a top 3 pick.


I think that smacks of media-created tanking hysteria.

Saying they're in full-tank mode is a misrepresentation of their situation and is hardly accurate.

Deng turned down their offer for a contract extension. So Chicago was face with a few very significant realities:

1. They're paying the luxury tax for a losing team.
2. They're going to lose Deng for nothing.

So they made the responsible and smart business decision, while also doing the prudent, competitive move. Deng is not a difference-maker for them this season. They were losing with him and they'll lose without him.

None of the above means that the coach or the players remaining are just going to start laying down for opponents. So while it helps facing an opponent with a recently reduced level of talent, it by no means says that they aren't going to fight you and make you earn the W.

Moreover, many teams will underestimate the Bulls now that they have lost Deng, which may give an edge to the players remaining on the squad. I agree with the informer, too many see one move and instantly make a wrong assumption.

Also, the Bulls are quite aware that having a great pick, never guarantees you a franchise player.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#16 » by Sundreamer » Tue Jan 7, 2014 8:39 pm

Are you guys actually arguing that trading Deng for pretty much nothing but picks is not a tanking move? The Bulls management realized there was no point trying to make the playoffs this year. They're clearly aiming for a high pick.

And yes, the Suns will have to fight hard to win tonight. Just like against the Bucks a couple of days ago. Wait, the Bucks are tanking, aren't they?
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#17 » by RunDogGun » Tue Jan 7, 2014 10:48 pm

Wow, saying the word over and over, without any knowledge of its meaning sounds like a great way to make an argument. :lol:
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#18 » by Revived » Tue Jan 7, 2014 11:16 pm

Luis Scola led the Suns with 22 points and seven rebounds, while former fan favorite Michael Beasley scored 20 points in 21 minutes.

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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#19 » by Revived » Tue Jan 7, 2014 11:26 pm

Sundreamer wrote:The Bulls are in full-tank mode so this should be a W for Phoenix, regardless of everything

I would agree with you but look at who the Bulls HC is. He will never let them tank and will have the team fighting at will even if he had all D-league players on his team.
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Re: Game 33: Suns @ Bulls 

Post#20 » by Son of Ra » Tue Jan 7, 2014 11:28 pm

Oh here we go again, the ever returning thread hijacking tanking does or does not exist debate...

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