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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#521 » by AlexCRO » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:09 pm

ReturnofMVP3 wrote:What if the nets throw their 5 million injured player exception at him (that also increases their luxury tax by 20 million i believe -25 mill on bynum basically)...

I wouldn't be suprised if King was stupid enough to do it.

If he wants to win he can come here for vet min, it's not like the 6 million he was guaranteed is gone.. 7 million and a ring with limited minutes should be good, but then again the guy can be a clown.


the nets will not to that maybe a portion but the whole 5 mil no way.
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Post#522 » by AlexCRO » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:11 pm

heater4life wrote:
Heat fan06 wrote:20/10/3 with 5 blocks on 8-14.
20/13/2 with 2 blocks on 9-14.
18/6 on 8-13.
19/7/2 on 9-15.

This year


Thats fine. But the moment he gives up a couple easy layups due to poor pick n roll play Spo is going to bench him. As much as the Heat need/want size, mobility is a crucial factor in our bigs play. Bynum does not have the mobility to play miami heat defense.

Not saying he wont be signed. At the minimum, he may be deemed worth the risk. I just dont think he fits our needs at center beyond a big body.


and who do you think we should sign that is 7 feet, 280 lbs at minimum and is mobile, give me a break when you are in deep s*** like we are as far as the salaray cap goes then you pick up anyone that can help in the department that you need.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#523 » by Heat fan06 » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:25 pm

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Heat fan06 wrote:20/10/3 with 5 blocks on 8-14.
20/13/2 with 2 blocks on 9-14.
18/6 on 8-13.
19/7/2 on 9-15.

This year


Thats fine. But the moment he gives up a couple easy layups due to poor pick n roll play Spo is going to bench him. As much as the Heat need/want size, mobility is a crucial factor in our bigs play. Bynum does not have the mobility to play miami heat defense.

Not saying he wont be signed. At the minimum, he may be deemed worth the risk. I just dont think he fits our needs at center beyond a big body.
his mobility is fine when we need him to defend Hibbert.. That's all he will be badly needed for.
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Post#524 » by AlexCRO » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:30 pm

tommorow could be a big day, i have a feeling all will be resolved a couple of hours after he clears waivers.
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Post#525 » by AlexCRO » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:38 pm

One league executive who recently spoke with Heat president Pat Riley told ESPN.com, "I'm certain that Riley is going to go hard after Bynum."

i am taking it with a grain of salt since is ESPN
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Post#526 » by Dupas » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:49 pm

i just dont understand how some of you dont want or think that we will not go for bynum. EVERY , i repeat. EVERY BIG in this league looks like a good player against us. Anyone.
This is 2 good to pass. MLE or vet i dont care. Just get it done. Bynum is a big body and its our only weakness. You know why we trap so much others pg's? To stop the ballmov and dont let them get the ball inside. Ive saw zaza pachulia go nuts on us. Cmon..this is just 2 GOOD 2 pass.
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Post#527 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:51 pm

heater4life wrote:
Heat fan06 wrote:20/10/3 with 5 blocks on 8-14.
20/13/2 with 2 blocks on 9-14.
18/6 on 8-13.
19/7/2 on 9-15.

This year


Thats fine. But the moment he gives up a couple easy layups due to poor pick n roll play Spo is going to bench him. As much as the Heat need/want size, mobility is a crucial factor in our bigs play. Bynum does not have the mobility to play miami heat defense.

Not saying he wont be signed. At the minimum, he may be deemed worth the risk. I just dont think he fits our needs at center beyond a big body.


This. This all day.

If we pass on Bynum, this will be the main reason.

Not his love of BB or lacj there of, not worrying about hurting Oden's feelings, not his hair or his douchiness.

We need size and mobility. Both are equally important. That's why it's hard for us to find the right Center. We can live with someone less talented then Bynum, but his lack of mobility can kill him with the way we play.

What makes Bird so great in our system is his mobility, always active and moving both on defense and offense. Bird isn't that big or that talented, but him being as active as he is makes him work wonderfully here.

Bynum, at this stage of his career with his knee and lazy slow style, is probably the least mobile player in the league.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#528 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:55 pm

AlexCRO wrote:One league executive who recently spoke with Heat president Pat Riley told ESPN.com, "I'm certain that Riley is going to go hard after Bynum."

i am taking it with a grain of salt since is ESPN


We may go for him, but highly doubt Riley is gifting clues on his future moves to rivals GM's.

If we do go for him, I think it will be for a very limited role. Shouldn't expect too much of him considering his the questionable fit and his subpar play this year.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#529 » by AlexCRO » Wed Jan 8, 2014 11:02 pm

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AlexCRO wrote:One league executive who recently spoke with Heat president Pat Riley told ESPN.com, "I'm certain that Riley is going to go hard after Bynum."

i am taking it with a grain of salt since is ESPN


We may go for him, but highly doubt Riley is gifting clues on his future moves to rivals GM's.

If we do go for him, I think it will be for a very limited role. Shouldn't expect too much of him considering his the questionable fit and his subpar play this year.


i think we are trying to land him behind the scenes. and i also think he would be a much better player here. motivation can do great things to humans
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Post#530 » by bb22 » Wed Jan 8, 2014 11:11 pm

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heater4life wrote:
Heat fan06 wrote:20/10/3 with 5 blocks on 8-14.
20/13/2 with 2 blocks on 9-14.
18/6 on 8-13.
19/7/2 on 9-15.

This year


Thats fine. But the moment he gives up a couple easy layups due to poor pick n roll play Spo is going to bench him. As much as the Heat need/want size, mobility is a crucial factor in our bigs play. Bynum does not have the mobility to play miami heat defense.

Not saying he wont be signed. At the minimum, he may be deemed worth the risk. I just dont think he fits our needs at center beyond a big body.


This. This all day.

If we pass on Bynum, this will be the main reason.

Not his love of BB or lacj there of, not worrying about hurting Oden's feelings, not his hair or his douchiness.

We need size and mobility. Both are equally important. That's why it's hard for us to find the right Center. We can live with someone less talented then Bynum, but his lack of mobility can kill him with the way we play.

What makes Bird so great in our system is his mobility, always active and moving both on defense and offense. Bird isn't that big or that talented, but him being as active as he is makes him work wonderfully here.

Bynum, at this stage of his career with his knee and lazy slow style, is probably the least mobile player in the league.


Yes. But in some situations our game plan isn't effective. Not to mention how physically demanding this type of game plan is on the players (Possibly causing the oscillations in defense during games). I think one slow footed 7 footer that has OK post moves and can alter shots is worth having on your bench. He can't be worse than dampier or Big Z. I just feel if they did sign him, the Odon experiment would be over...
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Post#531 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Jan 8, 2014 11:19 pm

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heater4life wrote:
Thats fine. But the moment he gives up a couple easy layups due to poor pick n roll play Spo is going to bench him. As much as the Heat need/want size, mobility is a crucial factor in our bigs play. Bynum does not have the mobility to play miami heat defense.

Not saying he wont be signed. At the minimum, he may be deemed worth the risk. I just dont think he fits our needs at center beyond a big body.


This. This all day.

If we pass on Bynum, this will be the main reason.

Not his love of BB or lacj there of, not worrying about hurting Oden's feelings, not his hair or his douchiness.

We need size and mobility. Both are equally important. That's why it's hard for us to find the right Center. We can live with someone less talented then Bynum, but his lack of mobility can kill him with the way we play.

What makes Bird so great in our system is his mobility, always active and moving both on defense and offense. Bird isn't that big or that talented, but him being as active as he is makes him work wonderfully here.

Bynum, at this stage of his career with his knee and lazy slow style, is probably the least mobile player in the league.


Yes. But in some situations our game plan isn't effective. Not to mention how physically demanding this type of game plan is on the players (Possibly causing the oscillations in defense during games). I think one slow footed 7 footer that has OK post moves and can alter shots is worth having on your bench. He can't be worse than dampier or Big Z. I just feel if they did sign him, the Odon experiment would be over...


There's no reason to think that adding Bynum will affect the Oden project. They're both huge guys but not that similar in skillset. Oden is much more defensive oriented and plays much harder. Bynum is more polished on offense.

We'd have 3 Centers : Bird, Bynum and Oden. But None of them can play more then 18-20 minutes TOPS. if we do decide to change our style for a specific matchup (mainly Indy) we'll just move Bosh back to his natural position of PF and roll a Center rotation of :

Bynum-18
Bird-18
Oden-12

One way to ease the spacing problem could be giving Allen a few of Wades' minutes.
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Post#532 » by Run DLC » Wed Jan 8, 2014 11:48 pm

If he wants to play here and if Miami can get him, they should get it done. Bynum has a big ego and bad attitude, but we have Pat Riley who'd probably convince him that he can be more than just a role player here for years to come. Miami is the worst rebounding team in the league, dead last on the list. Having a legit 7-footer like Bynum would improve our rebounding problem.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#533 » by Run DLC » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:24 am

HeatDaChamps wrote:Such overreacting knee jerk **** going on here. So because we've been subpar on defense for the past few games IN THE REGULAR SEASON, all of a sudden we're at rock bottom and cant get any worse? We need size? I dont care how big you are, if you cant move on defense, if you cant rotate, you arent playing on this team. Just ask Eddy Curry. Or dampier, or Pittman. Not to say Bynum is them, but hes not exactly moving very fast today.


Doesn't the fact that this team being dead last in rebounding worries you a little bit? Having Bynum on this team wouldn't completely solves all of this team's problems, but it'd give them the option to use Bynum against teams with big size like, Pacers, ect.
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Post#534 » by heatlespeatles » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:33 am

this isn't rocket science. Stop overthinking spacing and all that nonsense. You have a physical Big that can manhandle other centers. I don't care if he's slow, he's not gonna play a whole bunch of minutes unless he's healthy enough or effective. He's a big similar to Oden, but he's proven. How do you want what Oden brings and not what Bynum bring? it doesn't make any sense
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Post#535 » by Tony15 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:50 am

heatlespeatles wrote:this isn't rocket science. Stop overthinking spacing and all that nonsense. You have a physical Big that can manhandle other centers. I don't care if he's slow, he's not gonna play a whole bunch of minutes unless he's healthy enough or effective. He's a big similar to Oden, but he's proven. How do you want what Oden brings and not what Bynum bring? it doesn't make any sense

Cool. Still doesn't mean that we desperately need him like 90% of this board is suggesting....Miami's an untraditional team man, and they won back to back titles this way. Another big would be nice, but it's not the end of the world if things don't work out the way you want them to. You have to play to your strengths....
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Post#536 » by Slot Machine » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:51 am

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heatlespeatles wrote:this isn't rocket science. Stop overthinking spacing and all that nonsense. You have a physical Big that can manhandle other centers. I don't care if he's slow, he's not gonna play a whole bunch of minutes unless he's healthy enough or effective. He's a big similar to Oden, but he's proven. How do you want what Oden brings and not what Bynum bring? it doesn't make any sense

Cool. Still doesn't mean that we desperately need him like 90% of this board is suggesting....Miami's an untraditional team man, and they won back to back titles this way. Another big would be nice, but it's not the end of the world if things don't work out the way you want them to. You have to play to your strengths....

Why'd we make any moves then? I mean, we won a championship last year. Why go after Beasley? Why go after Oden?
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Post#537 » by Run DLC » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:04 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/ ... s-per-game

This is the stat that Heat FO and fans love to ignore. It's one of our biggest problems, but it seems like we totally ignore it after the Heat go on a few winning streak or when Bosh grabs 10 rebounds in a few games, but it's something that cannot be ignored and it will be a big issue comes playoffs time if Oden doesn't workout.
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Post#538 » by RJM » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:07 am

Pat can control whomever he wants. He showed you that when he benched Shaq for missing a rotation during a Nets game in the 07-08 season from hell. NO ONE ever did that before. This is Shaq we're talking about. Shipped his ass out right afterwards. You must have forgotten who this man was.
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Post#539 » by GetMoney » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:07 am

it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually

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Post#540 » by heatlespeatles » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:17 am

Tony15 wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:this isn't rocket science. Stop overthinking spacing and all that nonsense. You have a physical Big that can manhandle other centers. I don't care if he's slow, he's not gonna play a whole bunch of minutes unless he's healthy enough or effective. He's a big similar to Oden, but he's proven. How do you want what Oden brings and not what Bynum bring? it doesn't make any sense

Cool. Still doesn't mean that we desperately need him like 90% of this board is suggesting....Miami's an untraditional team man, and they won back to back titles this way. Another big would be nice, but it's not the end of the world if things don't work out the way you want them to. You have to play to your strengths....

Oh ok, center isn't a major need now? Last in rebounding, always giving up points in the paint. No resistance in the paint, cant guard the three because we are busy over helping on defense. So now we don't need another center but we got Oden in the offseason.?. oH ok....

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