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Post#21 » by Scalabrine » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:13 am

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sweetcity wrote:good luck, knicks are a mess! as a raptors fan I love it.... your in the basement for years to come.... and the beautiful thing is, your not getting a pick this year!

you raptors fans are pathetic.

this team finished with 50+ win and got 2nd place in east.
admit it, this is your wet dream :D

this year we'll be in playoffs and maybe go for 2nd round.
for 2015 we're open for free agents. we got "new york" name, market. k.love, r.rondo and others consider to come here seriously.

your team sucks, you gone for 7-3 run and its big deal for you guys. we all know last 5 year is disaster for raptors.
also when i look your future that team would be in playoff race for next years.
if you guys tank this year you can rebuild and get a good future. we dont have our pick so we cant for this year that sucks. you had it but you're not going to right way.


How many franchise changing free agents have signed with the "New York" name over the past 10 years?

How many championships have this led them to?

Knick fans..when will they stop being so delusional about players actually wanting to play for them just because they are called New York.

Also lol @ 2nd round. New York will be lucky to make it to the 7th spot at best. They will be playing against Miami / Pacers in the first round.



Your right, not many franchise changing free agents have signed with the New York name. They also havent had any capspace in the past 10 years other then in 2010.

The one year in the past 10 years the have had capspace the signed Amare Stoudemire, who did change the franchise and was one of the top 5 free agents in a free agency class that had LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Dirk, Joe Johnson, DLee, Pierce, etc...

Its not that players dont want to play/live in New York, its more the fact that they want to make money, and if the Knicks can offer the same money as another team, I still think most players would have them near the top of their lists.. they just never put themselves in position too... after next season they should have a lot of space in another big year in free agency.
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Post#22 » by ybnd » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:19 am

FirstInkTDot wrote::lol: I remember when people were saying Knicks were contenders in the playoffs. Where's the guy with the Shumpert avatar posting deals where half the Knicks scrubs are traded away in exchange for elite players.



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Post#23 » by playoffs » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:20 am

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sweetcity wrote:good luck, knicks are a mess! as a raptors fan I love it.... your in the basement for years to come.... and the beautiful thing is, your not getting a pick this year!

you raptors fans are pathetic.

this team finished with 50+ win and got 2nd place in east.
admit it, this is your wet dream :D

this year we'll be in playoffs and maybe go for 2nd round.
for 2015 we're open for free agents. we got "new york" name, market. k.love, r.rondo and others consider to come here seriously.

your team sucks, you gone for 7-3 run and its big deal for you guys. we all know last 5 year is disaster for raptors.
also when i look your future that team would be in playoff race for next years.
if you guys tank this year you can rebuild and get a good future. we dont have our pick so we cant for this year that sucks. you had it but you're not going to right way.


LOL I'm not a Raps fan, and I don't have any particular good or bad feelings towards the Knicks, but you and many other Knicks fans here are delusional. No star player in their right mind would sign with NYK in its current state. This is one of the worst run organization in the NBA (now that Sac have gotten rid of the Maloofs, only Brooklyn can challenge them for the title in that regard), which has locked itself into monstrous contracts, alongside giving away its draft picks, and any hope for the future. The Knicks are going to stay irrelevant for at least another 4-5 years.
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Post#24 » by ybnd » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:21 am

The only knicks team i ever liked was that one with Vin Baker
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Post#25 » by RedX » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:25 am

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Raps Maniac wrote:Hey shump avatar troll, this is a WT article that actually involves your team. Where's your genius trade proposal?

I'll steal his thunder


Knicks trade: Jr Smith 5.5 million

Pacers trade: Paul George + Lance Stephenson + Donald Sloan = 5.1 million + Knicks get cash



Knicks trade: Shumpert + Felton

Toronto trade: Lowry



Starting line up:

PG Lowry
SG Stephenson
SF George
PF Melo
C Chandler

Almost there. Throw in a TOR first rounder and you've got a deal.


You guys are insanely delusional... Constantly proposing trades w scrubs for prime players. That trade for Lowry doesn't happen without you giving us shump, hardaway, and a first. That's the truth.
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Post#26 » by themeccamsg » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:44 am

LOL @ everyone on here trying to claim the Knicks can't bring in star players. We brought in Stoudemire, then Anthony demanded a trade here, Jason Kidd took less money to come here, Chandler as well, JR Smith signed for waaay bellow market value... the list goes on. The reality is NYC is the biggest city in the world and players LOVE it here. MSG is called the MECCA for a reason (hence my name). Sure we're having a bad season, but I can guarantee you when we've cleared cap space for 2015, you will see a monster big 3 so big, everyone will forget about the Heat.

As for those claiming the Raptors are somehow in better shape than the Knicks.... :lol: :noway:

Also I'm not going to propose a JR Smith trade cause this is garbage. Despite his antics, JR is a former 6th man of the year and one of the most unappreciated players in the league, and he's only making the NBA average salary. He's staying, like it or not.
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Post#27 » by HeatNation88 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:55 am

themeccamsg wrote:LOL @ everyone on here trying to claim the Knicks can't bring in star players. We brought in Stoudemire, then Anthony demanded a trade here, Jason Kidd took less money to come here, Chandler as well, JR Smith signed for waaay bellow market value... the list goes on. The reality is NYC is the biggest city in the world and players LOVE it here. MSG is called the MECCA for a reason (hence my name). Sure we're having a bad season, but I can guarantee you when we've cleared cap space for 2015, you will see a monster big 3 so big, everyone will forget about the Heat.

As for those claiming the Raptors are somehow in better shape than the Knicks.... :lol: :noway:

Also I'm not going to propose a JR Smith trade cause this is garbage. Despite his antics, JR is a former 6th man of the year and one of the most unappreciated players in the league, and he's only making the NBA average salary. He's staying, like it or not.


Keep dreaming Knick's fan's you guys haven't hit reality yet.
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Post#28 » by DaRealHibachi » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:55 am

themeccamsg wrote:As for those claiming the Raptors are somehow in better shape than the Knicks.... :lol: :noway:


How the hell are they not..?? :-?

GM-wise, record-wise, player-wise, draft-wise..

I dunno why I'm taking you so serious though.. :lol:
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Post#29 » by Xerxes_Tetra » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:59 am

Smith has negative trade value. Bad contract, bad attitude, bad judgement... good luck trading this guy.
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Post#30 » by your boy » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:37 am

themeccamsg wrote:LOL @ everyone on here trying to claim the Knicks can't bring in star players. We brought in Stoudemire, then Anthony demanded a trade here, Jason Kidd took less money to come here, Chandler as well, JR Smith signed for waaay bellow market value... the list goes on. The reality is NYC is the biggest city in the world and players LOVE it here. MSG is called the MECCA for a reason (hence my name). Sure we're having a bad season, but I can guarantee you when we've cleared cap space for 2015, you will see a monster big 3 so big, everyone will forget about the Heat.

As for those claiming the Raptors are somehow in better shape than the Knicks.... :lol: :noway:

Also I'm not to propose a JR Smith trade cause this is garbage. Despite his antics, JR is a former 6th man of the year and one of the most unappreciated players in the league, and he's only making the NBA average salary. He's staying, like it or not.



Lol They overpaid for amare, everyone and their mom new amares knees were bad. Tyson Chandler isn't a star and he didn't take less money. Kidd wasn't a star, smith is a scrub and yes I realize he had one good season. Melo is from new York, that's why he wanted to play there.
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Post#31 » by malgus » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:42 am

Yeah good luck with this lol
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Post#32 » by CHAMPi0N » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:46 am

Lol he's probably still mad that the Knicks cut Chris.

It will be a miracle if they trade this guy.
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Post#33 » by duepayer » Thu Jan 9, 2014 1:47 am

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themeccamsg wrote:LOL @ everyone on here trying to claim the Knicks can't bring in star players. We brought in Stoudemire, then Anthony demanded a trade here, Jason Kidd took less money to come here, Chandler as well, JR Smith signed for waaay bellow market value... the list goes on. The reality is NYC is the biggest city in the world and players LOVE it here. MSG is called the MECCA for a reason (hence my name). Sure we're having a bad season, but I can guarantee you when we've cleared cap space for 2015, you will see a monster big 3 so big, everyone will forget about the Heat.

As for those claiming the Raptors are somehow in better shape than the Knicks.... :lol: :noway:

Also I'm not going to propose a JR Smith trade cause this is garbage. Despite his antics, JR is a former 6th man of the year and one of the most unappreciated players in the league, and he's only making the NBA average salary. He's staying, like it or not.


Keep dreaming Knick's fan's you guys haven't hit reality yet.


They never do. Sad thing is that the Nets have followed suit, chasing success with washed-up, aged super stars to sell tix and win headlines with "splashy" moves. What I find interesting is that almost all of the Big Market teams (NY, Brooklyn, Chicago, Boston, LA Lakers) are either cap strapped, playing poorly or a trade away from full tank mode. All with suspect ownership, save Boston which I hate to say is the most savvy sports town. The Celts may be even be poised to pull of a quick turnaround a'la the Sawks given their heady moves and complete shakedown of the Nets. Especially if they keep Rondo. Anyway, it looks like the new CBA's doing its job. This is the new NBA where being a big market team isn't enough. Hopefully they'll wise up and start making more sound basketball decisions so they can stop breaking their delusional fan's hearts.
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Post#34 » by Temuhjan » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:04 am

your boy wrote:Lol They overpaid for amare, everyone and their mom new amares knees were bad. Tyson Chandler isn't a star and he didn't take less money. Kidd wasn't a star, smith is a scrub and yes I realize he had one good season. Melo is from new York, that's why he wanted to play there.


I am not a Knicks fans and I believe the Knicks will continue to be irrelevant for this season and next. Whether they will become contenders again afterwards largely depends on what they do with the cap space created when Amare's contract expires. Use wisely and the team can be good. Waste it and the team will continue to be bad.

To be fair, both Kidd and Chandler are true stars. Chandler is a great defensive center. Unfortunately, he has not been healthy first half of this season. Kidd is a Hall of Famer for the reason he is able to make everyone on his team better. When Kidd, Chandler and Melo are healthy and on the floor together last year, they managed a great season. Now that Kidd has retired and Chandler is gimpy, obviously the Knicks is anything but good. The Knicks management really ought to do a much better job if they want to have a good team in their house.
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Post#35 » by Dolphin Lips » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:07 am

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themeccamsg wrote:LOL @ everyone on here trying to claim the Knicks can't bring in star players. We brought in Stoudemire, then Anthony demanded a trade here, Jason Kidd took less money to come here, Chandler as well, JR Smith signed for waaay bellow market value... the list goes on. The reality is NYC is the biggest city in the world and players LOVE it here. MSG is called the MECCA for a reason (hence my name). Sure we're having a bad season, but I can guarantee you when we've cleared cap space for 2015, you will see a monster big 3 so big, everyone will forget about the Heat.

As for those claiming the Raptors are somehow in better shape than the Knicks.... :lol: :noway:

Also I'm not going to propose a JR Smith trade cause this is garbage. Despite his antics, JR is a former 6th man of the year and one of the most unappreciated players in the league, and he's only making the NBA average salary. He's staying, like it or not.


Keep dreaming Knick's fan's you guys haven't hit reality yet.


They never do. Sad thing is that the Nets have followed suit, chasing success with washed-up, aged super stars to sell tix and win headlines with "splashy" moves. What I find interesting is that almost all of the Big Market teams (NY, Brooklyn, Chicago, Boston, LA Lakers) are either cap strapped, playing poorly or a trade away from full tank mode. All with suspect ownership, save Boston which I hate to say is the most savvy sports town. The Celts may be even be poised to pull of a quick turnaround a'la the Sawks given their heady moves and complete shakedown of the Nets. Especially if they keep Rondo. Anyway, it looks like the new CBA's doing its job. This is the new NBA where being a big market team isn't enough. Hopefully they'll wise up and start making more sound basketball decisions so they can stop breaking their delusional fan's hearts.


Hey man take it easy with my boys... Heat Spurs Lakers are the only teams that can talk sht over the last 10 years... Where the Celtics at now? Mavs? Warriors not going anywhere, clippers not going anywhere Pacers not getting past LeBron... so what's your point?
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Post#36 » by duepayer » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:17 am

Hey man take it easy with my boys... Heat Spurs Lakers are the only teams that can talk sht over the last 10 years... Where the Celtics at now? Mavs? Warriors not going anywhere, clippers not going anywhere Pacers not getting past LeBron... so what's your point?


Where the Celtics at now? You can't be serious. I'll tell you where they're at. Steppin' in your Knicks' ass on YOUR "mecca" court by 40 something with a "tanking" team and rookie coach. C'mon son, I'm a Laker head from NY. I've been shaming your squad for a long time. This is light work. Knicks fans overvalue these player's desire to play in NY. Sure they like to come to NY and put up career numbers on your squad under the bright lights and watch yall blow big games but don't nobody wanna come play for this dysfunctional franchise. History of bad ownership, bad management and fans with maddeningly delusional expectations. My only hope is that Melo stays his bum ass on your team and doesn't come out here to LA. Y'all deserve each other.
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Post#37 » by duepayer » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:32 am

duepayer wrote:
Hey man take it easy with my boys... Heat Spurs Lakers are the only teams that can talk sht over the last 10 years... Where the Celtics at now? Mavs? Warriors not going anywhere, clippers not going anywhere Pacers not getting past LeBron... so what's your point?


Where the Celtics at now? You can't be serious. I'll tell you where they're at. Steppin' in your Knicks' ass on YOUR "mecca" court by 40 something with a "tanking" team and rookie coach. C'mon son, I'm a Laker head from NY. I've been shaming your squad for a long time. This is light work. Knicks fans overvalue these player's desire to play in NY. Sure they like to come to NY and put up career numbers on your squad under the bright lights and watch yall blow big games but don't nobody wanna come play for this dysfunctional franchise. History of bad ownership, bad management and fans with maddeningly delusional expectations. My only hope is that Melo stays his bum ass on your team and doesn't come out here to LA. Y'all deserve each other.


Full disclosure. I'm a Nets #fanfromday1 too. I waited a loooong time for a team I could ride for in my own city so it pains me to see them repeat the Knicks' and other big market team's mistakes. Kidd was a bad hire, just like D'Antoni was for the Lakers. We got fleeced by the Celts just like the Knicks did by Denver & Toronto. I actually liked the Galo/Chandler/Amare led Knicks team. Until these markets and their fanbases learn to be more patient and measured in their approach and make Basketball > Business decisions we're all gonna have to suffer through more **** primetime Xmas games with big market teams getting blown out by their smaller, more bball savvy competitors.
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Post#38 » by your boy » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:34 am

Temuhjan wrote:
your boy wrote:Lol They overpaid for amare, everyone and their mom new amares knees were bad. Tyson Chandler isn't a star and he didn't take less money. Kidd wasn't a star, smith is a scrub and yes I realize he had one good season. Melo is from new York, that's why he wanted to play there.


I am not a Knicks fans and I believe the Knicks will continue to be irrelevant for this season and next. Whether they will become contenders again afterwards largely depends on what they do with the cap space created when Amare's contract expires. Use wisely and the team can be good. Waste it and the team will continue to be bad.

To be fair, both Kidd and Chandler are true stars. Chandler is a great defensive center. Unfortunately, he has not been healthy first half of this season. Kidd is a Hall of Famer for the reason he is able to make everyone on his team better. When Kidd, Chandler and Melo are healthy and on the floor together last year, they managed a great season. Now that Kidd has retired and Chandler is gimpy, obviously the Knicks is anything but good. The Knicks management really ought to do a much better job if they want to have a good team in their house.


Kidd on the nets was a star, last year he was far from a star, he was a decent role player. Chandler is decent, still not a star.
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Post#39 » by your boy » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:35 am

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duepayer wrote:
MiamiHeatFan6 wrote:

Keep dreaming Knick's fan's you guys haven't hit reality yet.


They never do. Sad thing is that the Nets have followed suit, chasing success with washed-up, aged super stars to sell tix and win headlines with "splashy" moves. What I find interesting is that almost all of the Big Market teams (NY, Brooklyn, Chicago, Boston, LA Lakers) are either cap strapped, playing poorly or a trade away from full tank mode. All with suspect ownership, save Boston which I hate to say is the most savvy sports town. The Celts may be even be poised to pull of a quick turnaround a'la the Sawks given their heady moves and complete shakedown of the Nets. Especially if they keep Rondo. Anyway, it looks like the new CBA's doing its job. This is the new NBA where being a big market team isn't enough. Hopefully they'll wise up and start making more sound basketball decisions so they can stop breaking their delusional fan's hearts.


Hey man take it easy with my boys... Heat Spurs Lakers are the only teams that can talk sht over the last 10 years... Where the Celtics at now? Mavs? Warriors not going anywhere, clippers not going anywhere Pacers not getting past LeBron... so what's your point?


All those teams you mentioned are better then the Knicks. You do know that right?
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Post#40 » by miltk » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:51 am

it's too late. that bonehead shot done his value in.

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