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Yea I think so too, I am not so sure how good he can be in P&R situations but he has elite length and his quick.
Reminds of Marquis Daniels but he plays under control.
Reminds of Marquis Daniels but he plays under control.
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DeAndre Kane, Michael Qualls are underrated.
I like Ky Madden from Arkansas as a potential role player as a shooter too.
And I'm really high on Portis and Jordan Mickey for 2015.
I like Ky Madden from Arkansas as a potential role player as a shooter too.
And I'm really high on Portis and Jordan Mickey for 2015.
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Fischella wrote:DeAndre Kane, Michael Qualls are underrated.
I like Ky Madden from Arkansas as a potential role player as a shooter too.
And I'm really high on Portis and Jordan Mickey for 2015.
outside of his length and 2 foot jumping ability, what is so special about qualls?
and yes, those SEC frosh bigs are getting overlooked.
portis is a beast on the block. skilled and he understands positioning. doesn't look like much up top, but he's got a strong base. mickey just has a nose for the ball and has a knack for finding creases in the defense for catch and finishes. really sneaky, slithery guy.
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i have trouble projecting deandre kane. like, what is he at the next level? i know he plays the point, but he's not a good ball-handler, isn't particularly quick and isn't a great athlete overall. he's an improved shooter but i can't ignore the career 30% 3P% and 60% from the line for a guard. he leads the big12 in assists but when i watch him play, the majority of his asts come from simple pick n pop or swinging the ball to a shooter. he's productive, but i think a lot of that has to do with him just being a more mature basketball player than who he's going against. solid intangibles, plays hard, but what skill is translatable?
his production is what people expect out of marcus smart, but he still looks like a late 2nd rounder to me.
his production is what people expect out of marcus smart, but he still looks like a late 2nd rounder to me.
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i moved delon wright into the top 25 of my big board. kid is nasty with the ball in his hands. his PnR potential is off the charts. he splits doubles and shakes help defenders like they're not even there.
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ManualRam wrote:i moved delon wright into the top 25 of my big board. kid is nasty with the ball in his hands. his PnR potential is off the charts. he splits doubles and shakes help defenders like they're not even there.
I keep seeing people mention him here. Saw a tweet about him by Kevin Pelton today. I dont get the Pac-12 so I have been waiting for a game to come on to see him. Going to watch him for the first time Saturday vs UCLA. Looking forward to it.
Edit: I just realised its a week from Saturday. Long time.
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Bluejay wrote:Kyle Anderson
Delon Wright
Just bumping this
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There's a lot of prospects named Young, but maybe the best of em never gets mentioned - Joe Young from Oregon (formerly of Houston - and the son of former Phi Slamma Jamma Michael Young). Only 6'2 -6'3, so he's written off as an undersized 2, but there are big PG's in the NBA you can play him with - like MCW and Wall. Great scorer with ridiculous efficiency and very low turnover rate. Instant offense off the bench in the NBA.
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There is no way he comes out this year but Terry Rozier of Louiville. I just say him play for the first time recently and really like him.
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ManualRam wrote:Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Is Delon Wright a PG? 6.2 APG to 2.6 TOs is a decent ratio.
he's more of a combo now, but i think he can be. he's got the vision, iq and the patience to be one. he's more disruptive defensively, but i think he has the lateral quickness to check 1's. with his size he'll be able to play off and recover. i think it'd be his best position since he does have a rather thin build.
His last game, he was a 1 man show for Utah - nearly beating Washington by himself. Scored 27 of his team's 57 points, getting 12 of his team's 26 rebounds. He made 10 of 17 shots, while his teammates made 12 of 36 including 0 of 14 from 3. Could he be like a taller version of Rondo - when he was at Kentucky? His numbers are crazy good - even without being much of a 3 point shooter.
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Ruzious wrote:ManualRam wrote:Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Is Delon Wright a PG? 6.2 APG to 2.6 TOs is a decent ratio.
he's more of a combo now, but i think he can be. he's got the vision, iq and the patience to be one. he's more disruptive defensively, but i think he has the lateral quickness to check 1's. with his size he'll be able to play off and recover. i think it'd be his best position since he does have a rather thin build.
His last game, he was a 1 man show for Utah - nearly beating Washington by himself. Scored 27 of his team's 57 points, getting 12 of his team's 26 rebounds. He made 10 of 17 shots, while his teammates made 12 of 36 including 0 of 14 from 3. Could he be like a taller version of Rondo - when he was at Kentucky? His numbers are crazy good - even without being much of a 3 point shooter.
i watched the game and even in a loss, it was the type of performance that SHOULD serve notice, but it appears as though not many watched it. even the usual suspects who track the college game didnt even mention his performance (didnt see anything on twitter). utah really couldn't do anything offensively. they got off to a cold start and it carried throughout the game. wright felt his way through the game, but in the 2nd half when it was apparent that the shots weren't gonna start dropping, their coach basically just gave delon the ball and let him go to work. i've seen a handful of games and delon is not the type to dominate the ball and try to go 1 on 5. he makes plays within the flow of the game and rarely forces, but this time he had to and UW could not stop him. high ball screen or side PnR was inevitable and delon had a counter for everything. they blitzed, he split the traps. they sat back and tried to ice the PnR, he shook the help defender in tight spaces and still broke down the defense. he was doing some pro level stuff out there. he also made a few clutch plays defensively with his length and anticipation.
he's got similar rondo like slipperiness and ranginess, but he's neither pass first nor score first. he's just a playmaker. whatever the play dictates, he'll look to exploit and/or counter.
i really don't know why there isn't more draft buzz surrounding him. we're already at the halfway point of the college season. while utah has had a really weak, home-heavy schedule, they still have played some high major teams: oregon, oregon st, BYU, boise st, washington. he was productive and efficient vs all of them.
his line vs those teams:
17.2/8.4/4.6 57.4% from the floor 2.4 stls 1.8 blks
he's not just feasting on creampuffs.
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Wayne Selden is a sleeper now that people are somehow questioning his athleticism, but he will be better than Smart and Exum I guarantee it
tlee324 wrote:
Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.
Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Keep an eye on Deonte Burton out of Nevada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZAqUheUMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6vEdQnwFzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR2obnWOjT0
Kid is a straight up scorer, athlete, and is insanely clutch... Has hit like 10 game winners in his career. Averaging 23 a game could be a good pick up in the early second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZAqUheUMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6vEdQnwFzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR2obnWOjT0
Kid is a straight up scorer, athlete, and is insanely clutch... Has hit like 10 game winners in his career. Averaging 23 a game could be a good pick up in the early second.
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Posted Rondae Hollis-Jefferson at the start of the season, really like him. Not sure whether he declares or not. Terry Rozier I just saw recently and like but he is very unlikely to declare. Elfrid Payton I just watched for the second time and that kid is a 1st round talent. No doubt about it. I would say there is a pretty good chance he declares this year.
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EMG518 wrote:Posted Rondae Hollis-Jefferson at the start of the season, really like him. Not sure whether he declares or not. Terry Rozier I just saw recently and like but he is very unlikely to declare. Elfrid Payton I just watched for the second time and that kid is a 1st round talent. No doubt about it. I would say there is a pretty good chance he declares this year.
He shouldn't declare this year. He should wait till next year when he has a bigger role. Scouts only really like him for his athleticism. His stats aren't great. With another year under the belt, he could become a first round pick.
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doordoor123 wrote: Scouts only really like him for his athleticism.
LOLWUT
With another year under the belt, he could become a first round pick
He could be a late lotto-top20 pick in this Draft, easily.
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Jordan Fouse looks like he could eventually be a walking triple-double. I imagine he's going to stay in college till his senior year, but this guy from Green Bay is all over the floor. He can assist, rebound, score, steal and block. He doesn't do any one thing great yet, but I see tons of potential.
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I haven't read through all 15 pages here, but I think Adriean Payne could be a sleeper. I'm hoping the Suns get him along with a sweet shooting wing.
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ManualRam wrote:Ruzious wrote:ManualRam wrote:he's more of a combo now, but i think he can be. he's got the vision, iq and the patience to be one. he's more disruptive defensively, but i think he has the lateral quickness to check 1's. with his size he'll be able to play off and recover. i think it'd be his best position since he does have a rather thin build.
His last game, he was a 1 man show for Utah - nearly beating Washington by himself. Scored 27 of his team's 57 points, getting 12 of his team's 26 rebounds. He made 10 of 17 shots, while his teammates made 12 of 36 including 0 of 14 from 3. Could he be like a taller version of Rondo - when he was at Kentucky? His numbers are crazy good - even without being much of a 3 point shooter.
i watched the game and even in a loss, it was the type of performance that SHOULD serve notice, but it appears as though not many watched it. even the usual suspects who track the college game didnt even mention his performance (didnt see anything on twitter). utah really couldn't do anything offensively. they got off to a cold start and it carried throughout the game. wright felt his way through the game, but in the 2nd half when it was apparent that the shots weren't gonna start dropping, their coach basically just gave delon the ball and let him go to work. i've seen a handful of games and delon is not the type to dominate the ball and try to go 1 on 5. he makes plays within the flow of the game and rarely forces, but this time he had to and UW could not stop him. high ball screen or side PnR was inevitable and delon had a counter for everything. they blitzed, he split the traps. they sat back and tried to ice the PnR, he shook the help defender in tight spaces and still broke down the defense. he was doing some pro level stuff out there. he also made a few clutch plays defensively with his length and anticipation.
he's got similar rondo like slipperiness and ranginess, but he's neither pass first nor score first. he's just a playmaker. whatever the play dictates, he'll look to exploit and/or counter.
i really don't know why there isn't more draft buzz surrounding him. we're already at the halfway point of the college season. while utah has had a really weak, home-heavy schedule, they still have played some high major teams: oregon, oregon st, BYU, boise st, washington. he was productive and efficient vs all of them.
his line vs those teams:
17.2/8.4/4.6 57.4% from the floor 2.4 stls 1.8 blks
he's not just feasting on creampuffs.
Draftexpress has him ranked as undrafted still - the 84th best prospect in college. Part of it is being a 21 year old freshman, but still.
Kevin Broom, who does some impressive statistical analysis, has a complex statistical program that evaluates pro prospects called YODA. He said a few days ago YODA has Delon Wright valued at the equivalent of a 1st or 2nd pick in the draft in a typical draft.
I don't know if anyone's mentioned Allan Williams, the moose from UC Santa Barbara, but he's an impressive PF in the Millsap/Faried mold that's also not listed as being drafted by draftexpress.
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Ruzious wrote:ManualRam wrote:Ruzious wrote:His last game, he was a 1 man show for Utah - nearly beating Washington by himself. Scored 27 of his team's 57 points, getting 12 of his team's 26 rebounds. He made 10 of 17 shots, while his teammates made 12 of 36 including 0 of 14 from 3. Could he be like a taller version of Rondo - when he was at Kentucky? His numbers are crazy good - even without being much of a 3 point shooter.
i watched the game and even in a loss, it was the type of performance that SHOULD serve notice, but it appears as though not many watched it. even the usual suspects who track the college game didnt even mention his performance (didnt see anything on twitter). utah really couldn't do anything offensively. they got off to a cold start and it carried throughout the game. wright felt his way through the game, but in the 2nd half when it was apparent that the shots weren't gonna start dropping, their coach basically just gave delon the ball and let him go to work. i've seen a handful of games and delon is not the type to dominate the ball and try to go 1 on 5. he makes plays within the flow of the game and rarely forces, but this time he had to and UW could not stop him. high ball screen or side PnR was inevitable and delon had a counter for everything. they blitzed, he split the traps. they sat back and tried to ice the PnR, he shook the help defender in tight spaces and still broke down the defense. he was doing some pro level stuff out there. he also made a few clutch plays defensively with his length and anticipation.
he's got similar rondo like slipperiness and ranginess, but he's neither pass first nor score first. he's just a playmaker. whatever the play dictates, he'll look to exploit and/or counter.
i really don't know why there isn't more draft buzz surrounding him. we're already at the halfway point of the college season. while utah has had a really weak, home-heavy schedule, they still have played some high major teams: oregon, oregon st, BYU, boise st, washington. he was productive and efficient vs all of them.
his line vs those teams:
17.2/8.4/4.6 57.4% from the floor 2.4 stls 1.8 blks
he's not just feasting on creampuffs.
Draftexpress has him ranked as undrafted still - the 84th best prospect in college. Part of it is being a 21 year old freshman, but still.
Kevin Broom, who does some impressive statistical analysis, has a complex statistical program that evaluates pro prospects called YODA. He said a few days ago YODA has Delon Wright valued at the equivalent of a 1st or 2nd pick in the draft in a typical draft.
he's a junior. he's yet another example of a player seemingly coming out of nowhere who DX isn't willing to jump on. age is an issue, kinda. i think the more concerning thing surrounding his age is how thin he is now. his skill, anticipation and feel for the game are very advanced for a prospect of any age, so that somewhat makes up for him being older relative to his level of D1 experience. you can only hope that prospects in a few yrs eventually develop the feel for the game that he has now. i can tell just by watching him that he's constantly reading things, showing j-kidd like stuff like reading the flight of the ball for boards or jumping offensive moves for steals.
he had another great line tonight:
22/6/5 6stl 2blk 1TO 11FTA
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