Andrew Bynum

[heater4life]

No, they didn't fit the bill because they suck. Why don't you tell everybody about their illustrious careers post-Miami?

If were going that route, then explain to me why Joel Anthony was a starter for the Miami Heat? Must be because of his unlimited ceiling and all star potential.

He used to be a mildly serviceable center that was pretty good at getting blocks and dunks...But iirc that was 2008. He's no longer that guy any more. There was no one else for us to sign that we could afford when we acquired the big 3 so we just stuck with the guy that knew our defensive philosophies. Every center we've had since Shaq has sucked major ass. Big Cat was fun though.

My question was more rhetorical, I was trying to emphasize how Joels mobility (pick n roll play, quick rotations) allowed a undersized offensively hinder player to start at center. Its important for our 5 spot to move quickly ala Bosh and Birdman.

[heater4life]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

[AlexCRO]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

you can speculate all you want but you said it he is a prospect if even that, and he has been for 4 years.

[AlexCRO]

i dont understand why not waive mason, sign bynum to a 10 day contract and see what he has left, then if you are not happy just resign mason back, he has guaranteed money anyways

[HIF]

i dont understand why not waive mason, sign bynum to a 10 day contract and see what he has left, then if you are not happy just resign mason back, he has guaranteed money anyways

I don't think you really understand the NBA.

[WD]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

plus he wants to be here and we got him cheap....sometimes we're just too greedy. We want every "rent a player" we can get whenever another player is having a few bad games, qtrs or possessions. You can't praise Riley for signing ODEN then bash him for not signing Bynum....

p.s. I think I just agreed with a poster that once did not agree with me....I learn from everybody though

[heater4life]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

you can speculate all you want but you said it he is a prospect if even that, and he has been for 4 years.

Apparently the Miami Heat seem to disagree with you considering he is under contract and being worked to contribute at some point in the near future.

If they did not believe so, he would be 4 years removed from the league looking for work. Mind you, Miami wasnt the only team eagerly seeking his reclamation project.

Once healthy, he fits much better than a player like Andrew Bynum.

[HeatDaChamps]

i dont understand why not waive mason, sign bynum to a 10 day contract and see what he has left, then if you are not happy just resign mason back, he has guaranteed money anyways

well, becauase bynum who has 8 teams going after him, wont accept a 10 day contract, he aint a scrub.....

[narmerguy]

i dont understand why not waive mason, sign bynum to a 10 day contract and see what he has left, then if you are not happy just resign mason back, he has guaranteed money anyways

well, becauase bynum who has 8 teams going after him, wont accept a 10 day contract, he aint a scrub.....

He's playing like one a lot.

[heater4life]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

plus he wants to be here and we got him cheap....sometimes we're just too greedy. We want every "rent a player" we can get whenever another player is having a few bad games, qtrs or possessions. You can't praise Riley for signing ODEN then bash him for not signing Bynum....

p.s. I think I just agreed with a poster that once did not agree with me....I learn from everybody though

Greed definitely plays a factor, also a lack of patience isnt far behind.

People forget why Eddy Curry did not become a rotational player for this team. It had nothing to do with rebounding or lack of interior strength.

Curry on offense: Clogs lanes with limited range, on pick and roll lacks quickness for decisive roll to basket nor for slip screens. Defensively he would get torn apart on pnr, and would have late close outs on shooters due to slow rotations. In transition, he was both a liability offensively and defensively due inability to run the floor quickly.

If you were to watch the game in which Curry played the Lakers, he provided what most posters here are looking for. Offensive boards and interior muscle. Unfortunately theres more to it than that, hence he didnt fit.

Although more talented, Bynum is similar in terms of limited range, lack of mobility and lack of defensive effort. Aside from being a big body to throw at Hibbert, he provides the same liabilities Curry did. Bynum would get little run imo.

[heater4life]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

plus he wants to be here and we got him cheap....sometimes we're just too greedy. We want every "rent a player" we can get whenever another player is having a few bad games, qtrs or possessions. You can't praise Riley for signing ODEN then bash him for not signing Bynum....

p.s. I think I just agreed with a poster that once did not agree with me....I learn from everybody though

Greed definitely plays a factor, also a lack of patience isnt far behind.

People forget why Eddy Curry did not become a rotational player for this team.

Curry on offense: Clogs lanes with limited range, on pick and roll lacks quickness for decisive roll to basket nor for slip screens. Defensively he would get torn apart on pnr, and would have late close outs on shooters due to slow rotations. In transition, he was both a liability offensively and defensively due inability to run the floor quickly.

If you were to watch the game in which Curry played the Lakers, he provided what most posters here are looking for. Offensive boards and interior muscle. Unfortunately theres more to it than that, hence he didnt fit.

Although more talented, Bynum is similar in terms of limited range, lack of mobility and lack of defensive effort. Aside from being a big body to throw at Hibbert, he provides the same liabilities Curry did. Bynum would get little run imo.

[WD]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

plus he wants to be here and we got him cheap....sometimes we're just too greedy. We want every "rent a player" we can get whenever another player is having a few bad games, qtrs or possessions. You can't praise Riley for signing ODEN then bash him for not signing Bynum....

p.s. I think I just agreed with a poster that once did not agree with me....I learn from everybody though

Greed definitely plays a factor, also a lack of patience isnt far behind.

People forget why Eddy Curry did not become a rotational player for this team. It had nothing to do with rebounding or lack of interior strength.

Curry on offense: Clogs lanes with limited range, on pick and roll lacks quickness for decisive roll to basket nor for slip screens. Defensively he would get torn apart on pnr, and would have late close outs on shooters due to slow rotations. In transition, he was both a liability offensively and defensively due inability to run the floor quickly.

If you were to watch the game in which Curry played the Lakers, he provided what most posters here are looking for. Offensive boards and interior muscle. Unfortunately theres more to it than that, hence he didnt fit.

Although more talented, Bynum is similar in terms of limited range, lack of mobility and lack of defensive effort. Aside from being a big body to throw at Hibbert, he provides the same liabilities Curry did. Bynum would get little run imo.

I agree.

This point was and is my final opinion of Bynum, we don't have that type of "dump it down to the center" team anymore, again we like what we see as potential based on what we see BIGS do on OTHER teams. The star position on this team is not the CENTER position.

i don't care what Riley does about Bynum

[KingDavid]

i don't care what Riley does about Bynum

And we have a winner.

That's how I feel.

[KingDavid]

plus he wants to be here and we got him cheap....sometimes we're just too greedy. We want every "rent a player" we can get whenever another player is having a few bad games, qtrs or possessions. You can't praise Riley for signing ODEN then bash him for not signing Bynum....

p.s. I think I just agreed with a poster that once did not agree with me....I learn from everybody though

Greed definitely plays a factor, also a lack of patience isnt far behind.

People forget why Eddy Curry did not become a rotational player for this team.

Curry on offense: Clogs lanes with limited range, on pick and roll lacks quickness for decisive roll to basket nor for slip screens. Defensively he would get torn apart on pnr, and would have late close outs on shooters due to slow rotations. In transition, he was both a liability offensively and defensively due inability to run the floor quickly.

If you were to watch the game in which Curry played the Lakers, he provided what most posters here are looking for. Offensive boards and interior muscle. Unfortunately theres more to it than that, hence he didnt fit.

Although more talented, Bynum is similar in terms of limited range, lack of mobility and lack of defensive effort. Aside from being a big body to throw at Hibbert, he provides the same liabilities Curry did. Bynum would get little run imo.

Lol, no. Curry is just a bad player now. See his stint in SA after we let him go. Bynum isn't some stiff big wtf, for his size he actually moves well. He gets caught on P&Rs but that's more of a system problem back in LA. Bynum is a center, of course he has limited range but I'm sure if he really wanted to come here, he'd know what he has to sacrifice. Touches being one of them.

Look I understand if you don't want Bynum to come here, but to talk him down as if he's a bad player or slow or something, ehhhhh...I can't quite agree with that. He has massive hands and can catch. In other words, if Wade/LBJ are driving inside and Bynum's man commits, you can dump him the ball and he can CATCH it and finish. When he isn't the focal point of an offense, his potential is unlimited. On defense, we can run 3pt shooters off the line and dare them to try and finish over Bynum. But this is all speculation. That's my POV. For the minimum, I'm willing to take that risk...but only the minimum and I know he commands more than that so...

[AlexCRO]

i dont understand why not waive mason, sign bynum to a 10 day contract and see what he has left, then if you are not happy just resign mason back, he has guaranteed money anyways

well, becauase bynum who has 8 teams going after him, wont accept a 10 day contract, he aint a scrub.....

well he should this is his last chance in the NBA

[WD]

Good point King David - but consider this from your statement

On defense, we can run 3pt shooters off the line and dare them to try and finish over Bynum. But this is all speculation. That's my POV. For the minimum, I'm willing to take that risk...but only the minimum and I know he commands more than that so.."

1st. I don't think he'd take the min
2nd - Look at what we have our Centers do, what you suggested above would be perfect "on another team" seriously, tonight, look at what EVERY CENTER DOES - and there in lies the issue I have with Bynum and I feel is why ODEN hasn't taken the court.....TRAP AND RECOVER is a b@tch for Centers not named "ZO"
3rd - Players like Bynum will not accept 10 days, min salaries or limited touches - IMO - they read the press and hear what others say about them or their position.

[Dupas]

Good point King David - but consider this from your statement

On defense, we can run 3pt shooters off the line and dare them to try and finish over Bynum. But this is all speculation. That's my POV. For the minimum, I'm willing to take that risk...but only the minimum and I know he commands more than that so.."

1st. I don't think he'd take the min
2nd - Look at what we have our Centers do, what you suggested above would be perfect "on another team" seriously, tonight, look at what EVERY CENTER DOES - and there in lies the issue I have with Bynum and I feel is why ODEN hasn't taken the court.....TRAP AND RECOVER is a b@tch for Centers not named "ZO"

And dont you think that if we do that kind of defence is because it suits for our team? Its a good scheme but it sucks when it doesnt work. How many times others team got easy scores and uncontested layups against us because they move the ball really quick and avoid the trap? We are good at that system but that system have more flaws than pros.

[AlexCRO]

Im perfectly fine with just riding out the season with the prospect of Greg Oden. What we'll get from Oden, we dont know. But we do know is he is excited to get on the floor, hes going to hustle and play hard. If healthy, he is dedicated defensively as he has shown in the past and he adds the big body the Heat needs

you can speculate all you want but you said it he is a prospect if even that, and he has been for 4 years.

Apparently the Miami Heat seem to disagree with you considering he is under contract and being worked to contribute at some point in the near future.

If they did not believe so, he would be 4 years removed from the league looking for work. Mind you, Miami wasnt the only team eagerly seeking his reclamation project.

Once healthy, he fits much better than a player like Andrew Bynum.

yes but you have a lots of IF and NEAR FUTURE things tied to Oden... and if you belive Oden if he gets healthy will be better then Bynum at this point you are delusional. Bynum knee problems look like child play next to oden injuries wich look like mathematical algebra. i just dont trust Oden i dont know its hard to come back after one knee injury let alone 4 major knee injuries like oden had.

[WD]

Good point King David - but consider this from your statement

On defense, we can run 3pt shooters off the line and dare them to try and finish over Bynum. But this is all speculation. That's my POV. For the minimum, I'm willing to take that risk...but only the minimum and I know he commands more than that so.."

1st. I don't think he'd take the min
2nd - Look at what we have our Centers do, what you suggested above would be perfect "on another team" seriously, tonight, look at what EVERY CENTER DOES - and there in lies the issue I have with Bynum and I feel is why ODEN hasn't taken the court.....TRAP AND RECOVER is a b@tch for Centers not named "ZO"

And dont you think that if we do that kind of defence is because it suits for our team? Its a good scheme but it sucks when it doesnt work. How many times others team got easy scores and uncontested layups against us because they move the ball really quick and avoid the trap? We are good at that system but that system have more flaws than pros.

You are actually agreeing with my position, don't mistake the abbreviated comment.....

[KingDavid]

Good point King David - but consider this from your statement

On defense, we can run 3pt shooters off the line and dare them to try and finish over Bynum. But this is all speculation. That's my POV. For the minimum, I'm willing to take that risk...but only the minimum and I know he commands more than that so.."

1st. I don't think he'd take the min
2nd - Look at what we have our Centers do, what you suggested above would be perfect "on another team" seriously, tonight, look at what EVERY CENTER DOES - and there in lies the issue I have with Bynum and I feel is why ODEN hasn't taken the court.....TRAP AND RECOVER is a b@tch for Centers not named "ZO"

Ahhh I see. I keep blowing over the fact that he has to fit THIS team over my head and I think the poster I JUST quoted was talking about that

Sorry heater4life. You're right.

Zo and Anthony Davis are probably the only centers that can do this lmao! Maybe Nerlens Noel too???? That should be interesting to watch next year. Seems to be of the same mold defensively as Anthony Davis.