Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

[Shamrock]

Zach Lowe raised an interesting possibility in his latest column, about the Suns options to find a backup point guard to replace Eric Bledsoe, until he comes back. Among many names mentioned, Andre Miller, Lowry, Maynor...Jordan Crawford came up. He is playing well this year, decent playmaker and on an expiring contract.

I wonder if Phoenix would trade one of their 1sts this year for Crawford. Either their own, pacers or wizards pick, all of which they own in this draft.

He'd fit well into their combo guard system... If were able to get anything of value for Crawford then it's a highway robbery by the Celtics considering they traded a injured Leandro Barbosa and Jason Collins for him.

[aymanusmani]

Zach Lowe raised an interesting possibility in his latest column, about the Suns options to find a backup point guard to replace Eric Bledsoe, until he comes back. Among many names mentioned, Andre Miller, Lowry, Maynor...Jordan Crawford came up. He is playing well this year, decent playmaker and on an expiring contract.

I wonder if Phoenix would trade one of their 1sts this year for Crawford. Either their own, pacers or wizards pick, all of which they own in this draft.

I don't see us getting more than the Pacers' 1st for Crawford, but lord almighty, I'd love that. Solidifies the tank by making us start Jerryd Bayless or Avery until Rondo comes back.

[Pogue Mahone]

Zach Lowe raised an interesting possibility in his latest column, about the Suns options to find a backup point guard to replace Eric Bledsoe, until he comes back. Among many names mentioned, Andre Miller, Lowry, Maynor...Jordan Crawford came up. He is playing well this year, decent playmaker and on an expiring contract.

I wonder if Phoenix would trade one of their 1sts this year for Crawford. Either their own, pacers or wizards pick, all of which they own in this draft.

I don't see us getting more than the Pacers' 1st for Crawford, but lord almighty, I'd love that. Solidifies the tank by making us start Jerryd Bayless or Avery until Rondo comes back.

I would argue that Bayless is an improvement as far as getting other guys involved. Bayless and Bradley backcourt is also pretty good defensively. That factors in, as well.

Early season Crawford would be better, however.

[soxfan2003]

Zach Lowe raised an interesting possibility in his latest column, about the Suns options to find a backup point guard to replace Eric Bledsoe, until he comes back. Among many names mentioned, Andre Miller, Lowry, Maynor...Jordan Crawford came up. He is playing well this year, decent playmaker and on an expiring contract.

I wonder if Phoenix would trade one of their 1sts this year for Crawford. Either their own, pacers or wizards pick, all of which they own in this draft.

The Pacers pick going to the Celtics and perhaps a Celtics 2nd round pick in a future year going to the Pacers seems fair but Boston should certainly check if some team is willing to pay more. I'm assuming on players like Crawford that its a buyers market in a year like this. Before Crawford started shooting worse, he may have been able to fetch more but his value has to have gone down some.

I would certainly do it unless Ainge wants to make a Rondo trade before the deadline since I think it facilitates bottoming out before Rondo returns which could be fairly soon and even after he returns.

[aymanusmani]

Zach Lowe raised an interesting possibility in his latest column, about the Suns options to find a backup point guard to replace Eric Bledsoe, until he comes back. Among many names mentioned, Andre Miller, Lowry, Maynor...Jordan Crawford came up. He is playing well this year, decent playmaker and on an expiring contract.

I wonder if Phoenix would trade one of their 1sts this year for Crawford. Either their own, pacers or wizards pick, all of which they own in this draft.

I don't see us getting more than the Pacers' 1st for Crawford, but lord almighty, I'd love that. Solidifies the tank by making us start Jerryd Bayless or Avery until Rondo comes back.

I would argue that Bayless is an improvement as far as getting other guys involved. Bayless and Bradley backcourt is also pretty good defensively. That factors in, as well.

Early season Crawford would be better, however.

Is he? Bayless is a solid scorer, but I've always thought he was a minus defender and not much of a playmaker, more of a sparkplug scorer off the bench.

[klemen4]

Humphries, Crawford
for
Okafor, better of POR/IND first rounder

[sully00]

I don't see us getting more than the Pacers' 1st for Crawford, but lord almighty, I'd love that. Solidifies the tank by making us start Jerryd Bayless or Avery until Rondo comes back.

I would argue that Bayless is an improvement as far as getting other guys involved. Bayless and Bradley backcourt is also pretty good defensively. That factors in, as well.

Early season Crawford would be better, however.

Is he? Bayless is a solid scorer, but I've always thought he was a minus defender and not much of a playmaker, more of a sparkplug scorer off the bench.

Bayless is a SG that is his problem. He can give you mins at the point but if you leave him there he is going to get exposed defensively by really quick guards and his offensive game is going to suffer if he has to facilitate a ton of your offense. I think Bayless and Bradley are okay defensively but they have looked real shaky offensively, specifically facilitating the offense.

I think PJ was about to call a timeout the other night and asked the two of them what they thought they were doing.

The whole idea of getting a first round pick for Crawford is just too much to really comprehend.

[aymanusmani]

The whole idea of getting a first round pick for Crawford is just too much to really comprehend.

This.

[Slartibartfast]

I would argue that Bayless is an improvement as far as getting other guys involved. Bayless and Bradley backcourt is also pretty good defensively. That factors in, as well.

Early season Crawford would be better, however.

Is he? Bayless is a solid scorer, but I've always thought he was a minus defender and not much of a playmaker, more of a sparkplug scorer off the bench.

Bayless is a SG that is his problem. He can give you mins at the point but if you leave him there he is going to get exposed defensively by really quick guards and his offensive game is going to suffer if he has to facilitate a ton of your offense. I think Bayless and Bradley are okay defensively but they have looked real shaky offensively, specifically facilitating the offense.

I think PJ was about to call a timeout the other night and asked the two of them what they thought they were doing.

The whole idea of getting a first round pick for Crawford is just too much to really comprehend.

Bayless is a lot like Bradley at the point - both guys' pet move is the pull-up J off the screen and they seem to get really confused when that's not the play call.

But Bayless is probably the best penetrator of any of our guards, including Crawford. A better handle than Bradley, more control in the paint and better quickness than Crawford.

I too would be baffled if anyone gave up a pick for Crawford.

[24istheLAW]

The thing with Crawford, is in the beginning of the season he showed he CAN run an offense. The challenge is getting him to concentrate on setting up his teammates and not looking for his shot.

So if someone thinks they can mature him then a late 1st is pretty fair exchange. I don't see that being someone's conclusion since he has a track record of selfish offensive play. But its more in the realm of possibility than a lot of other scenarios.

As for what we'd do without Crawford, the starting unit would be fine. The concern would be that making the 1st guy off the bench the starter leaves you weak at 1st guy off the bench. The second unit can't score as it is.

[sully00]

It isn't about Crawford's play he has been great it is the whole concept that the guy was traded for a guy whose season was over due to a knee injury and the GOAT and now he has played his way into a conversation about being traded for a 1st round draft pick in super hyped draft.

The PHX situation is very interesting. They have exceptions so they can just take Crawford on without sending out a player and they probably have too many picks were having Crawford as a RFA may have some advantages to them as far as matching an offer or letting him go if they need the cap space.

[KJandHondo35]

Just read on the Rumor section of Espn Insider that the Pelicans are shopping Gordon and looking at the Bucks for Sanders and Mayo... If the Celtics got involed and instead sent Green to NO along with Mayo and Fav, we get Aminu and Sanders and the Bucks get Gordon (works salerywise). Do you think that would be amicable to all sides?

the article excerpt:
"Milwaukee Bucks: The Bucks have a couple of trade chips that the Pelicans might be interested in, including Larry Sanders and O.J. Mayo.

Both players have fallen out of favor with the Bucks this season -- Mayo isn't even starting -- and both are on long-term deals that Milwaukee may be eager to get rid of. Adding Gordon would address a position of need for the Bucks, and it'd thin the frontcourt so John Henson could start alongside Ersan Ilyasova, with Brandon Knight, Gordon and Giannis Antetokounmpo filling the other three spots. "

[Andrew McCeltic]

I think NO would be doing that trade for Sanders.. If we want him we'd have to cut out the Pelicans and deal directly with Milwaukee.. Crawford/Humphries?

[KJandHondo35]

I think NO would be doing that trade for Sanders.. If we want him we'd have to cut out the Pelicans and deal directly with Milwaukee.. Crawford/Humphries?

Sign Me up for that...

[Andrew McCeltic]

Gordon really has a huge offensive upside, though.. But his contract and injuries are risks. Crawford is safer, but MIL would be doing that to dump Sanders.. I'm sure they're nervous about the big contract they gave him.

[KJandHondo35]

Thats why i just thought if we sent Green to NO he gives them an improvent at 3 but can also play a stretch 4 in Anderson's absence and also still get Mayo. Boston gets Aminu who I'm not huge on but is also 23 so as long as we get Sanders its okay... Fav was just a salery filler so any of the 2 mill guys you could subsitute and MIL still would get Gordon so they are happy...

[Slartibartfast]

If the Bucks are committing to the tank then they won't care too much about albatross contracts just picks and prospects.

That might make them a good destination for Gerald Wallace if we have free agency designs in 2014 or 2015.

Butler/Delfino for Wallace and the Brk/Atl pick makes some sense. We shave $7 mil per off our cap and have one less guaranteed rookie deal in 2014. Follow that up by dumping Bass for an expiring on Washington or Charlotte and we could throw the max at Melo.

[Celts17Pride]

Gordon really has a huge offensive upside, though.. But his contract and injuries are risks.

Don't know if I would take on that contract. One thing is certain and that is if Gordon comes to Boston then Gerald Wallace is going back in the deal. That's not even open to discussion.

[Banks2Pierce]

Don't know if I would take on that contract. One thing is certain and that is if Gordon comes to Boston then Gerald Wallace is going back in the deal. That's not even open to discussion.

They have the same amount of years left and Gordon is a signficantly better player and has actual upside left.

You've gotta stop with this trading Gerald Wallace pipedream. For the 13-14 season at least. We'd have to add in additional assets to clear him off and that doesn't make sense until there's a clear picture of what the free agency class looks like that you'd be targeting.

[GreenMachine]

If the Bucks are committing to the tank then they won't care too much about albatross contracts just picks and prospects.

That might make them a good destination for Gerald Wallace if we have free agency designs in 2014 or 2015.

Butler/Delfino for Wallace and the Brk/Atl pick makes some sense. We shave $7 mil per off our cap and have one less guaranteed rookie deal in 2014. Follow that up by dumping Bass for an expiring on Washington or Charlotte and we could throw the max at Melo.

What does being committed to the tank THIS YEAR have anything to do with taking on "albatross" contracts that extent well beyond THIS YEAR? I highly doubt they are committed to the tank LONG TERM.