Demarcus Cousins Should Be Recognized As Best Center

[Disabled Sports]

the only reason I'm posting a youtube video is because I'm disabled & can't really type & my reasons are explained in the video. By the way i Made This Video Back In August & It Still Holds True Today

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bYnuxq2ISs[/youtube]

[Kings2013]

I agree

[SacKingZZZ]

Howard does rely on his athletic skill and players that do so typically do have that earlier and more prominent decline. I agree, I think his back has left him less than he was offensively and he's is starting a decline from his prime. He didn't have a great post game to begin with and now with bigger more skilled players coming into the league he's looked far less dominant than before.

[RapsGotThis]

Sooooo true , but his attitude is the worst among C.

[SacSanity]

Sooooo true , but his attitude is the worst among C.

Not true. He's gained a bad rep, but so would anyone who wants to win that had to play under the Maloofs.

[RapsGotThis]

Sooooo true , but his attitude is the worst among C.

Not true. He's gained a bad rep, but so would anyone who wants to win that had to play under the Maloofs.

I'm not a sac fan, but I've seen several cases where he had a bad attitude...like not giving handshakes etc. I don't know though maybe ur right..... I'm just saying from my perspective... I still love him xD

[bibby1023]

So not shaking the opponent aka the enemies hand after a tough loss is now an attitude problem? People just nitpick little things with this guy, and unfortunately that's what he's going to deal with for the rest of his career.

[SacTown Kings]

Sooooo true , but his attitude is the worst among C.

Not true. He's gained a bad rep, but so would anyone who wants to win that had to play under the Maloofs.

I'm not a sac fan, but I've seen several cases where he had a bad attitude...like not giving handshakes etc. I don't know though maybe ur right..... I'm just saying from my perspective... I still love him xD

I think the overwhelming majority of non kings fans on realgm applauded DMC for not shaking hands with Paul. Yes he complains at the refs a lot and is emotional but other than that I don't get all this bad attitude stuff. Guys like Paul and Kobe complain all the time too. It's like saying Paul isn't the best of cause he complains at the refs and has a bad attitude. But DMC has already been labeled by outsiders as having a bad attitude cause he had to deal with an incompetent Westphal. So no matter what he does from here on out people that don't watch him night in and night out will have that stuck in their head.

[YC42Balla]

Agreed.

[pillwenney]

It's a tough call still IMO, and will be until he improves his D more. Obviously he's by far the best offensively, but he's way behind guys like Howard, Hibbert, and Gasol (Marc) on D.

At the very least, there's a still a conversation otherwise.

[Big_Cat]

Best center really doesn't mean anything anymore in today's NBA...since the position as a whole is so terrible compared to the other four "positions."

If our goal is to win a championship, past history (say last 20-30 years...except for 1-2 anomalies that had near perfect overall rosters & situations), all say you need at least one top 5-8 player on your roster in order to win.


Do you really feel that Boogie, say in 3-4 years, will be better than one of Lebron/Durant/Paul/Davis/George/Westbrook/(insert other potential top 5-8 talent) ? If not, having Boogie as our best player simply won't be good enough to win a title.

[Cruel_Ruin]

Best center really doesn't mean anything anymore in today's NBA...since the position as a whole is so terrible compared to the other four "positions."

If our goal is to win a championship, past history (say last 20-30 years...except for 1-2 anomalies that had near perfect overall rosters & situations), all say you need at least one top 5-8 player on your roster in order to win.


Do you really feel that Boogie, say in 3-4 years, will be better than one of Lebron/Durant/Paul/Davis/George/Westbrook/(insert other potential top 5-8 talent) ? If not, having Boogie as our best player simply won't be good enough to win a title.

26/13/3 on 49% shooting per 36 minutes

If he ever can get to playing 36 minutes per game (and the Kings start winning), he's easily in that tier of players. I'd say top 3 even right after Lebron and Durant

[Big_Cat]

Best center really doesn't mean anything anymore in today's NBA...since the position as a whole is so terrible compared to the other four "positions."

If our goal is to win a championship, past history (say last 20-30 years...except for 1-2 anomalies that had near perfect overall rosters & situations), all say you need at least one top 5-8 player on your roster in order to win.


Do you really feel that Boogie, say in 3-4 years, will be better than one of Lebron/Durant/Paul/Davis/George/Westbrook/(insert other potential top 5-8 talent) ? If not, having Boogie as our best player simply won't be good enough to win a title.

26/13/3 on 49% shooting per 36 minutes

If he ever can get to playing 36 minutes per game (and the Kings start winning), he's easily in that tier of players. I'd say top 3 even right after Lebron and Durant

Unless Boogie significantly improves his defense, even those numbers wouldn't put him in the Lebron/Durant tier.

Look at Kevin Love...what you posted is essentially the exact stats he's posting up right now. Would you consider Love a top 5 players? Personally I'd have him on the lower end of top 10 to the outside of the top 10

[Brapman]

Team cancer and a terrible defensive player doesn't equate to a guy who belongs in top players in the league conversations.

[Kings2013]

Best center really doesn't mean anything anymore in today's NBA...since the position as a whole is so terrible compared to the other four "positions."

If our goal is to win a championship, past history (say last 20-30 years...except for 1-2 anomalies that had near perfect overall rosters & situations), all say you need at least one top 5-8 player on your roster in order to win.


Do you really feel that Boogie, say in 3-4 years, will be better than one of Lebron/Durant/Paul/Davis/George/Westbrook/(insert other potential top 5-8 talent) ? If not, having Boogie as our best player simply won't be good enough to win a title.

I'm a Kings homer but if he improves defensively I think he can be better than anyone on that list aside from Lebron, Durant and maybe Paul. That includes flavor of the month Anthony Davis

[SacKingZZZ]

Watch a game and take it all in, he's NOT that bad of a defender. Not that stats are all that matter but he's even at 2 spg for crying out loud! For a center? That's crazy.

[SacKingZZZ]

Team cancer and a terrible defensive player doesn't equate to a guy who belongs in top players in the league conversations.

Right, well keep watching, if Cousins keeps this play up he'll easily be in the MVP picture for years to come.

[enderwilson]

Unless Boogie significantly improves his defense, even those numbers wouldn't put him in the Lebron/Durant tier.

Look at Kevin Love...what you posted is essentially the exact stats he's posting up right now. Would you consider Love a top 5 players? Personally I'd have him on the lower end of top 10 to the outside of the top 10

This is beside the point. You're comparing him to ALL players when the thread is about NBA centers. In this the comparison should be limited to players like Dwight Howard, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Andrew Bogut, etc.

Some people are making the issue around his D and that it lacks behind that of those centers I just mentioned. In the same breath it is acknowledged that no other player has DMCs offensive dominance. While the limitations on defense is reasonable, I believe the gap between DMC and other top centers in this category is narrowing. Now that Malone is in charge, I think Demarcus is learning how to play better team defense and a growing understanding of how he can be effective on defense given his abilities. As Malone has mentioned, team defense is more about IQ, and knowing where you need to be on the court to stymie the other team's offense. DMC has a very high BB IQ, and with Malone's tutelage can easily become one of the top defensive big men in the league.

In short, I think it is easier for player to learn how to be a better defender, than it is for him to become a better scorer. Because of this, DMC will be the future reigning big man in the league, and I hope the greatest force the NBA has seen at the five position since Shaq.

[Cruel_Ruin]

Best center really doesn't mean anything anymore in today's NBA...since the position as a whole is so terrible compared to the other four "positions."

If our goal is to win a championship, past history (say last 20-30 years...except for 1-2 anomalies that had near perfect overall rosters & situations), all say you need at least one top 5-8 player on your roster in order to win.


Do you really feel that Boogie, say in 3-4 years, will be better than one of Lebron/Durant/Paul/Davis/George/Westbrook/(insert other potential top 5-8 talent) ? If not, having Boogie as our best player simply won't be good enough to win a title.

26/13/3 on 49% shooting per 36 minutes

If he ever can get to playing 36 minutes per game (and the Kings start winning), he's easily in that tier of players. I'd say top 3 even right after Lebron and Durant

Unless Boogie significantly improves his defense, even those numbers wouldn't put him in the Lebron/Durant tier.

Look at Kevin Love...what you posted is essentially the exact stats he's posting up right now. Would you consider Love a top 5 players? Personally I'd have him on the lower end of top 10 to the outside of the top 10

Cousins isn't a bad defender. He's not that great, but he leads the team in pretty much every defensive statistical category (+/-, DRtg, etc.). He's not a sieve like Kevin Love to the point where playing him means sacrificing defense for offense. Cousins is a slightly-plus to average defender alongside his contributions on offense. Thats a top 3 player.

[Hendrix]

Right, well keep watching, if Cousins keeps this play up he'll easily be in the MVP picture for years to come.

MVP picture? That's a little aggressive, don't you think?