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'14 Draft Thread pt 2: vote again? VOTE AGAIN.

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Parker
47
16%
Wiggins
99
33%
Embiid
124
41%
Exum
25
8%
Smart
1
0%
Lavine
1
0%
Randle
2
1%
Other
0
No votes
Gordon
1
0%
Saric
1
0%
 
Total votes: 301

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Post#481 » by breakchains » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:23 pm

Westbrook is like one of the world's best athletes. Better shooter than Smart too.

Personally, I don't like the look-for-me PG at all. I think they stunt the offense more than they help it, even when they are very talented. Chris Paul is the ultimate PG right now. A true floor general.
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Post#482 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:24 pm

Lippo wrote:If we win the lottery and get the #1 and Phili gets the 3rd, and offers us the #3 and NO's 1st..say the 10th.. Would you do it.

Embiid for Parker & Hood or similar.


No.

I'm more concerned that we'd get number one and pass on Embiid. Kohl would vote for the swag and say we already have a center.
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Post#483 » by breakchains » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:24 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
Lippo wrote:If we win the lottery and get the #1 and Phili gets the 3rd, and offers us the #3 and NO's 1st..say the 10th.. Would you do it.

Embiid for Parker & Hood or similar.


No.

I'm more concerned that we'd get number one and pass on Embiid. Kohl would vote for the swag and say we already have a center.
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Post#484 » by Nebula1 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:25 pm

Lippo wrote:If we win the lottery and get the #1 and Phili gets the 3rd, and offers us the #3 and NO's 1st..say the 10th.. Would you do it.

Embiid for Parker & Hood or similar.


No. Trading Wiggins would be a poor decision.
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Post#485 » by Nebula1 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:26 pm

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Wiggins/Gianni/Henson/Sanders is a ridiculously long lineup with a ton of athleticism.


And some of the worst spacing in the league.



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Post#486 » by mattg » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:27 pm

I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.
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Post#487 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:29 pm

I'm a bit scared now on Parker. He's had some meh games of late. Wiggins elevated back up over him today on my board.
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Post#488 » by Nebula1 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:30 pm

mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


No doubt. There are several great bigs in the nba right now and I'm skeptical Embiid is even close to Anthony Davis, who actually deserved the #1.
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Post#489 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:31 pm

mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


I think he could walk into the NBA tomorrow and be top five.
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Post#490 » by randy84 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:31 pm

mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


Isn't that with all the guys?

There is no guarantee that Wiggins becomes a superstar. He is already struggling more in college than he ever did in high school.

Parker is a lesser Beasley and Beasley has been a bust in the NBA.

There is no guarantee with any of them.
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Post#491 » by breakchains » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:31 pm

mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.

Nothing is guaranteed. It is all a projection. Same goes for Wiggins being a star, or Parker, etc.
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Post#492 » by skones » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:37 pm

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Just seems like it from what I've seen. Probably better court vision but is he a real PG?

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They don't play anything alike. Coming into the NBA Knight's bread and butter was his jumper. Wasn't really a guy who got into the lane averaging a mere 4.8 FTA per 40 pace adjusted at Kentucky. Conversely, Marcus Smart is more of a bull as a player, really relying on his size and physicality to gain advantages. Smart's jump shot is actually a weakness rather than a strength. Where he excels is his ability to get into the lane and wreak havoc, averaging 9.3 FTA per 40 pace adjusted this season.

The two aren't comparable at all.


Intersting. I haven't watched much but he just sounds like he's out of position, like Knight. What's your opinion of him vs Exum?

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Exum is still largely an unknown, a wild card. So ultimately, I don't know. The highlight reel of his performance in the ASC Grand Final is the first time I've seen him look like an actual point guard. It'll be interesting to see if that translates once the level of competition increases. He's in a unique situation because he has to be evaluated against high school level competition.
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Post#493 » by skones » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:38 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


I think he could walk into the NBA tomorrow and be top five.


I wouldn't go that far.
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Post#494 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:38 pm

randy84 wrote:There is no guarantee that Wiggins becomes a superstar. He is already struggling more in college than he ever did in high school.

Duh?
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Post#495 » by skones » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:39 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
skones wrote:
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Wiggins/Gianni/Henson/Sanders is a ridiculously long lineup with a ton of athleticism.


And some of the worst spacing in the league.



:lol:


Not exactly sure what you're laughing at seeing as how none of those players have demonstrated any sort of reliable jumper.
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Post#496 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:42 pm

skones wrote:
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mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


I think he could walk into the NBA tomorrow and be top five.


I wouldn't go that far.


Who is ahead of him?
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Post#497 » by Max Green » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:47 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


I think he could walk into the NBA tomorrow and be top five.


Put the Kool-aid down. He wouldn't be the best Center on our team right now.
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Post#498 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:48 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
skones wrote:
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I think he could walk into the NBA tomorrow and be top five.


I wouldn't go that far.


Who is ahead of him?

Pssh, top 5? He should be preparing his Hall of Fame speech.

Embiid is my guy but you're taking it way too far.
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Post#499 » by randy84 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:49 pm

Max Green wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


I think he could walk into the NBA tomorrow and be top five.


Put the Kool-aid down. He wouldn't be the best Center on our team right now.


The funny thing is that Marcus Smart would be the best PG on the Bucks right now.
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Post#500 » by breakchains » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:50 pm

Max Green wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
mattg wrote:I think you guys are too sold on the fact embiid is guaranteed to become the best center in the nba. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but it's far from a guarantee he is the best in the nba.


I think he could walk into the NBA tomorrow and be top five.


Put the Kool-aid down. He wouldn't be the best Center on our team right now.

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