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catch20two · Post #181 » by **catch20two** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:26 am

They just said that Gerald Wallace is shooting 34% from the FT line this year. He's still a LOLcat afterall.

HornetJail · Post #182 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:58 am

catch20two wrote:They just said that Gerald Wallace is shooting 34% from the FT line this year. He's still a LOLcat afterall.

As much as I love Crash, he's also really become a moody prick in Boston. Refusing to shoot (seriously, his reverse shot selection makes McBob look like Ben Gordon), calling out teammates... I don't like it.

thruthefire · Post #183 » by **thruthefire** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:45 pm

The Greek Freak has just been decent, but it's so obvious that at least 13 lottery teams missed on him. Only Philly should feel great with MCW.

HornetJail · Post #184 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:50 pm

thruthefire wrote:The Greek Freak has just been decent, but it's so obvious that at least 13 lottery teams missed on him. Only Philly should feel great with MCW.

And even they have to be feel like they've missed out. MCW <<<< Giannis

thruthefire · Post #185 » by **thruthefire** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:00 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
thruthefire wrote:The Greek Freak has just been decent, but it's so obvious that at least 13 lottery teams missed on him. Only Philly should feel great with MCW.

And even they have to be feel like they've missed out. MCW <<<< Giannis

I don't know about all that, but certainly they should have had New Orleans take Giannis instead of Nerlens Noel.

I'm curious to know if Giannis was even on Cho's radar. He's the type of player you'd think Cho would love. Did the Biz pick scare him off? Was it because we already had MKG, and he viewed those two together similarly to how he did Biz and Drummond? Or did he just love Zeller that much?

mrknowitall215 · Post #186 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:32 pm

thruthefire wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
thruthefire wrote:The Greek Freak has just been decent, but it's so obvious that at least 13 lottery teams missed on him. Only Philly should feel great with MCW.

And even they have to be feel like they've missed out. MCW <<<< Giannis

I don't know about all that, but certainly they should have had New Orleans take Giannis instead of Nerlens Noel.

No, we shouldn't have. The Sixers are perfectly content with Nerlens Noel, who will eventually be the best player from the 2013 NBA Draft class, which wouldn't be saying much

Eoghan · Post #187 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:36 am

thruthefire wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
thruthefire wrote:The Greek Freak has just been decent, but it's so obvious that at least 13 lottery teams missed on him. Only Philly should feel great with MCW.

And even they have to be feel like they've missed out. MCW <<<< Giannis

I don't know about all that, but certainly they should have had New Orleans take Giannis instead of Nerlens Noel.

I'm curious to know if Giannis was even on Cho's radar. He's the type of player you'd think Cho would love. Did the Biz pick scare him off? Was it because we already had MKG, and he viewed those two together similarly to how he did Biz and Drummond? Or did he just love Zeller that much?

He loved Zeller that much, been scouting him for 2 years. :banghead:

Even if he liked Giannis, we wouldn't have traded down to get him where it would have been great value b/c Cho is apparently a pussy when it comes to trading down, doesn't want to miss out on "his guy."

catch20two · Post #188 » by **catch20two** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:04 am

The Cavs are trash even with Deng. I don't know how anybody can justify Kyrie as a top 10 player or or even a top 5 PG when his teams are so miserable and not much worst off when he's injured and out of the lineup. The KINGS are beating them by almost 30. :lol:

countryboi · Post #189 » by **countryboi** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:32 am

catch20two wrote:The Cavs are trash even with Deng. I don't know how anybody can justify Kyrie as a top 10 player or or even a top 5 PG when his teams are so miserable and not much worst off when he's injured and out of the lineup. The KINGS are beating them by almost 30.

there is no way this team can continue to be awful...its just too talented

catch20two · Post #190 » by **catch20two** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:35 am

countryboi wrote:
catch20two wrote:The Cavs are trash even with Deng. I don't know how anybody can justify Kyrie as a top 10 player or or even a top 5 PG when his teams are so miserable and not much worst off when he's injured and out of the lineup. The KINGS are beating them by almost 30.

there is no way this team can continue to be awful...its just too talented

That's what they said when they got Bynum. Lol.

Eoghan · Post #191 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:41 am

catch20two wrote:
countryboi wrote:
catch20two wrote:The Cavs are trash even with Deng. I don't know how anybody can justify Kyrie as a top 10 player or or even a top 5 PG when his teams are so miserable and not much worst off when he's injured and out of the lineup. The KINGS are beating them by almost 30.

there is no way this team can continue to be awful...its just too talented

That's what they said when they got Bynum. Lol.

They have to cut off the head of the snake. Mike Brown is a horrible coach.

countryboi · Post #192 » by **countryboi** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:42 am

BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:
countryboi wrote:
there is no way this team can continue to be awful...its just too talented

That's what they said when they got Bynum. Lol.

They have to cut off the head of the snake. Mike Brown is a horrible coach.

I would fire the GM for even bringing his ass back...that idea sounded awful even in my head

catch20two · Post #193 » by **catch20two** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:44 am

BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:
countryboi wrote:
there is no way this team can continue to be awful...its just too talented

That's what they said when they got Bynum. Lol.

They have to cut off the head of the snake. Mike Brown is a horrible coach.

What was Byron Scott before him then? The tail of the snake?

Post #194 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:01 am

Deng cant fix that team, they're like the Sacramento Kings of the East, all kinds of talent but none of it works together

mrknowitall215 · Post #195 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:04 am

I just think Mike Brown is just one of those NBA figureheads that'll always receive unjust criticism as a coach no matter how successful he make the team from his heir apparent and how terrible the team is with his successor. Since Brown has taken over as the Cavaliers head coach they have went from the 27th ranked defense to the 15th, and they are winning at a better clip (which doesn't mean much since they are still under .500, but I'll take winning .361 percent of my games over winning .293) with practically the same roster they had last season, sans Anthony Bennett (who isn't much of a factor), Andrew Bynum (who was recently exiled), and now Luol Deng (who has only played 2 games with them). Brown doesn't have much to work with but a so-called superstar that refuse to play defense to save his energy for offense, a oft-injured declining poor man's version of Joakim Noah, and a bunch of talented young misfits that don't know a thing about winning in the NBA

Eoghan · Post #196 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:35 am

catch20two wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:That's what they said when they got Bynum. Lol.

They have to cut off the head of the snake. Mike Brown is a horrible coach.

What was Byron Scott before him then? The tail of the snake?

Snake turd.

mrknowitall215 wrote:I just think Mike Brown is just one of those NBA figureheads that'll always receive unjust criticism as a coach no matter how successful he make the team from his heir apparent and how terrible the team is with his successor. Since Brown has taken over as the Cavaliers head coach they have went from the 27th ranked defense to the 15th, and they are winning at a better clip (which doesn't mean much since they are still under .500, but I'll take winning .361 percent of my games over winning .293) with practically the same roster they had last season, sans Anthony Bennett (who isn't much of a factor), Andrew Bynum (who was recently exiled), and now Luol Deng (who has only played 2 games with them). Brown doesn't have much to work with but a so-called superstar that refuse to play defense to save his energy for offense, a oft-injured declining poor man's version of Joakim Noah, and a bunch of talented young misfits that don't know a thing about winning in the NBA

Nah, he's a coach that won't adjust his coaching to get the most out of what he's got. He thinks just b/c he's from the Popavich tree that players will listen to him but all he probably does is yell defense at them over and over until they tune him out. That Cavs team has no business trying to D it up and play in the half court, they should be running cats out the gym.

mrknowitall215 · Post #197 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:03 am

BrotherDave wrote:Nah, he's a coach that won't adjust his coaching to get the most out of what he's got. He thinks just b/c he's from the Popavich tree that players will listen to him but all he probably does is yell defense at them over and over until they tune him out. That Cavs team has no business trying to D it up and play in the half court, they should be running cats out the gym.

Most coaches that have reached the successes of the NBA are stubborn & stuck in their ways, believing that it's either their system or the highway, even the great Phil Jackson. Gregg Popovich is one of the few successful NBA coaches that is flexible beyond his own system. Mike Brown, albeit having LeBron James or Kobe Bryant on his roster, has yet to have a losing season as a head coach doing things his way

I think Brown has the Cavs on the right path by trying to hold them responsible as defenders first & foremost. Their overall roster isn't really much fit to be a uptempo team as it may appear. Outside of Kyrie Irving & Dion Waiters, they aren't really constructed that way, and when they had Andrew Bynum, they certainly weren't

mrknowitall215 · Post #198 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:07 am

As soon as the Cavaliers lose 4 out of their next 5 games, the excuse of all excuses when a team that's trying to win can't win get as a waiver...they're tanking

LamarMatic7 · Post #199 » by **LamarMatic7** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:27 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:I just think Mike Brown is just one of those NBA figureheads that'll always receive unjust criticism as a coach no matter how successful he make the team from his heir apparent and how terrible the team is with his successor. Since Brown has taken over as the Cavaliers head coach they have went from the 27th ranked defense to the 15th, and they are winning at a better clip (which doesn't mean much since they are still under .500, but I'll take winning .361 percent of my games over winning .293) with practically the same roster they had last season, sans Anthony Bennett (who isn't much of a factor), Andrew Bynum (who was recently exiled), and now Luol Deng (who has only played 2 games with them). Brown doesn't have much to work with but a so-called superstar that refuse to play defense to save his energy for offense, a oft-injured declining poor man's version of Joakim Noah, and a bunch of talented young misfits that don't know a thing about winning in the NBA

this.

Brown by no means is a great coach but he seems to be the most unfairly criticised one.

mrknowitall215 · Post #200 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:08 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I just think Mike Brown is just one of those NBA figureheads that'll always receive unjust criticism as a coach no matter how successful he make the team from his heir apparent and how terrible the team is with his successor. Since Brown has taken over as the Cavaliers head coach they have went from the 27th ranked defense to the 15th, and they are winning at a better clip (which doesn't mean much since they are still under .500, but I'll take winning .361 percent of my games over winning .293) with practically the same roster they had last season, sans Anthony Bennett (who isn't much of a factor), Andrew Bynum (who was recently exiled), and now Luol Deng (who has only played 2 games with them). Brown doesn't have much to work with but a so-called superstar that refuse to play defense to save his energy for offense, a oft-injured declining poor man's version of Joakim Noah, and a bunch of talented young misfits that don't know a thing about winning in the NBA

this.

Brown by no means is a great coach but he seems to be the most unfairly criticised one.

It's hilariously ludicrous sometimes. Kyrie Irving scores 7 points on 3-of-14 shooting all the while missing shots that he normally make, and the first thing most people say is "it's Mike Brown's fault."