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GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm

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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#21 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:59 pm

Jay81 wrote:can someone tell me why we cut a lottery pick in Kendall Marshall and didnt give him a chance. We are the last team that should be cutting lottery picks in their 2nd years. I know he isnt a great player on offense but he is putting up sick numbers in LA while we have to use Garrett Temple?


Who would you have cut to replace him? Singleton probably would have been my choice but since Ernie made the albatross mistake of signing Maynor, our backcourt was set in his eyes. Its a true shame because Marshall has been fantastic. It would have made the Gortat trade somewhat swallowable.. But in reality, Gortat has been a disappointment and our draft pick is most certainly gone.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#22 » by nate33 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:09 pm

Illmatic21 wrote:^Lol.. I wish. Lebron will go for 40+ and the W, in front of his cheering home crowd at Verizon Center

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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#23 » by Higga » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:23 pm

We'll win tonight. Because...I don't know why. We're the Wizards.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#24 » by Nivek » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:44 pm

Maybe what Lebron means is that if folks think he's been coasting, wait till Wednesday and then he'll show them what coasting REALLY looks like.

Maybe?

Gotta say, it's amusing to hear the "coasting" accusations pointed at a guy who's producing at an MVP level...again. I have Paul and Durant rated barely ahead of him through Sunday's games. That said, even if he stops "coasting," and surges past those guys, he still probably won't get MVP because narrative.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#25 » by TheBabyMaker » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:19 pm

GhostsOfGil wrote:
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Illmatic21 wrote:^Lol.. I wish. Lebron will go for 40+ and the W, in front of his cheering home crowd at Verizon Center


Our crowd has to be one of the worst in the league as far as home court advantage.


A true shame. 5 years ago VC used to boo Lebron harder than any arena in the league.


Yea times has changed this will feel like a Miami home game just like when the Knicks and the Lakers play here. What a shame. :roll:
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#26 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:27 pm

Miami without Joel Anthony has virtually no chance against the Wizards.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#27 » by Jay81 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:31 pm

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Jay81 wrote:can someone tell me why we cut a lottery pick in Kendall Marshall and didnt give him a chance. We are the last team that should be cutting lottery picks in their 2nd years. I know he isnt a great player on offense but he is putting up sick numbers in LA while we have to use Garrett Temple?

I wonder if Ted is fuming about this but I would think this would be Ernie's last straw. We cut our backup point guard who is now averaging a double double in LA in a season where we have no backup pt guard

We've discussed it several hundred times - literally. What's it got to do with the Wizards vs Heat game? Why did we draft Kenny Green instead of Karl Malone?


sorry..i didnt realize the Heat and Wizards game had started
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#28 » by dlts20 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:19 pm

Nivek wrote:Maybe what Lebron means is that if folks think he's been coasting, wait till Wednesday and then he'll show them what coasting REALLY looks like.

Maybe?

Gotta say, it's amusing to hear the "coasting" accusations pointed at a guy who's producing at an MVP level...again. I have Paul and Durant rated barely ahead of him through Sunday's games. That said, even if he stops "coasting," and surges past those guys, he still probably won't get MVP because narrative.

youre going by those numbers again instead of watching the games. Its like I was saying about Wall when we were 2-7, he wasnt even trying to be great. Thats what made me mad and he got aggressive after that. Even all the heat fans say he is cruising and protecting his FG%. If you watch games where they get behind, he rarely tries to take over. Its like I was saying about Wall, he's playing almost like a role player but he's so good & talented that he can put up numbers while not trying to be dominant. Lebron is the best player in the game and can do it all but he's playing now like guys do when they have the ball with 1 second left and don want to throw up a full court shot. He's doing that in the regular part of the game. There is no way they win a title with him playing like that.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#29 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:33 pm

Nivek wrote:Maybe what Lebron means is that if folks think he's been coasting, wait till Wednesday and then he'll show them what coasting REALLY looks like.

Maybe?

Gotta say, it's amusing to hear the "coasting" accusations pointed at a guy who's producing at an MVP level...again. I have Paul and Durant rated barely ahead of him through Sunday's games. That said, even if he stops "coasting," and surges past those guys, he still probably won't get MVP because narrative.


Interesting.

Now consider this: The Heat have been 7.6 points per 100 possessions worse defensively with James on the floor, according to NBA.com. With him on the floor, the Heat have allowed 103.9 points per 100 possessions, which would rank 19th in the NBA. With him off the floor, the Heat have improved to 96.3 points allowed per 100 possessions, which would rank just behind the Indiana Pacers for second-best in the league.
It might be hard to believe that this is the same guy who drew Defensive Player of the Year buzz last season, but James' work on the defensive end has fallen off dramatically.

And it's not just the on-court/off-court numbers, either. James is currently blocking 0.3 shots per 36 minutes. That's less than half his career rate. Same as Kyle Korver, Stephen Curry and Matt Bonner. Fewer per minute than Kyrie Irving, Mo Williams and John Wall.

"I haven't gotten many chase-down blocks this year," James says. "Guys aren't challenging me as much. I mean, I've had a couple guys turn around and actually dribble the ball out."

That's true to some extent. James points to specific examples involving Landry Fields a few games ago, and J.J. Redikk, who pulled up for an awkward midrange jumper on a fast break and clanked it in November. But those are the exception rather than the rule. It's almost unbelievable that a player of James' off-the-charts athleticism and instincts has yet to tally two blocks in the same game this season.

James' steal rate has also tumbled, dropping to a career-low 1.3 per 36 minutes.
"I don't know why my blocks and steals are down, not quite sure," James says before joking, "Rio [Mario Chalmers] and D-Wade [Dwyane Wade] are always stealing everything. That's where my steals have gone."


Is James coasting?
By all accounts, James is a basketball genius. But there's a difference between what he can do and what he has done this season.

James can consistently guard positions 1 through 5, but that doesn't mean he has consistently guarded 1 through 5 this season. James can take over a game at will, but that doesn't mean he has taken over games at his will.

The impetus to do so, though, may not be there yet. The Heat are sitting comfortably as the No. 2 seed in a dreadful Eastern Conference, with a 7.5-game buffer in the standings and still within reach of the Pacers.

And consider the mileage. Counting preseason, regular season and postseason, James has played more games than any NBA player since joining the Heat back in 2010 -- 340 games and nearly 13,000 minutes in all.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#30 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:35 pm

dlts20 wrote:youre going by those numbers again instead of watching the games. Its like I was saying about Wall when we were 2-7, he wasnt even trying to be great. Thats what made me mad and he got aggressive after that. Even all the heat fans say he is cruising and protecting his FG%. If you watch games where they get behind, he rarely tries to take over. Its like I was saying about Wall, he's playing almost like a role player but he's so good & talented that he can put up numbers while not trying to be dominant. Lebron is the best player in the game and can do it all but he's playing now like guys do when they have the ball with 1 second left and don want to throw up a full court shot. He's doing that in the regular part of the game. There is no way they win a title with him playing like that.


Of course but the Heat don't care about January. By April, this'll be moot when he wins MVP again.

Even if James is playing the way he plays and is aggressive, they still have to get through Indiana once again and if they play SA in the Finals again, I think SA is better and won't let what happened in June happen again.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#31 » by TheBabyMaker » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:09 pm

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dlts20 wrote:youre going by those numbers again instead of watching the games. Its like I was saying about Wall when we were 2-7, he wasnt even trying to be great. Thats what made me mad and he got aggressive after that. Even all the heat fans say he is cruising and protecting his FG%. If you watch games where they get behind, he rarely tries to take over. Its like I was saying about Wall, he's playing almost like a role player but he's so good & talented that he can put up numbers while not trying to be dominant. Lebron is the best player in the game and can do it all but he's playing now like guys do when they have the ball with 1 second left and don want to throw up a full court shot. He's doing that in the regular part of the game. There is no way they win a title with him playing like that.


Of course but the Heat don't care about January. By April, this'll be moot when he wins MVP again.

Even if James is playing the way he plays and is aggressive, they still have to get through Indiana once again and if they play SA in the Finals again, I think SA is better and won't let what happened in June happen again.


Miami will win it all again don't kid yourself unless OKC can get a healthy Westbrook.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#32 » by Nivek » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:32 pm

What fans say is generally unpersuasive to me.

There may be something to him letting up a little on defense. Or, it could just be a fluke that will balance out over the remainder of the season. His offensive "cruising" or "protecting his FG%" works out to 1 fewer FGA per 36 minutes (with 0.3 fewer makes) and a decline of 0.7 in his usage (from 30.2% of his team's possessions to 29.5%).

In other words, much ado about nearly nothing.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#33 » by Kanyewest » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:00 pm

LeBron seems less aggressive than normal. LeBron's FGA should be rising rather than falling as Dwayne Wade is declining , missing more games than usual due to rest and getting to the free throw line less.

Cruising is all relative though- his shooting attempts per 36 minutes is down like 6.5% from last year- and his percentages are so high that he's pretty much as productive offensively (aside from perhaps rebounding) than last season. It will be interesting to see up close though how much highway robbery LeBron gets away with because he is somehow averaging even more FTA per 36 minutes(maybe LeBron isn't converting as many and ones).
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#34 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:10 pm

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Miami will win it all again don't kid yourself unless OKC can get a healthy Westbrook.


OKC ain't even getting out of the West. Their bench is too young and inexperienced and will fold in the playoffs. No one on that bench is going to do what Harden did in 2012.

And the Spurs as we all know should have won the 2013 title and played just as good as MIA in that series and so far this season I'd say SA has been more consistent. Parker is still Parker, Duncan started slow but has been putting in work, Ginobili is much better than he was last season, and their bench got better. The only thing they're missing is a legit backup swingman who can help Leonard/Green on the perimeter defensive end.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#35 » by dlts20 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:02 pm

Greg Oden is active and will dress tonight but it also maybe just due to them trading Joel Anthony so they needed to dress him.

no chalmers & anderson. Battier will start. That means they are going small. Battier & Bosh at PF & C. Go inside all night and Wall should penetrate. I think the Heat will be fired up. This should be high scoring. We better not settle for J's tonight. They will try to spread us out with Battier at the 3pt line trying to pull Nene out but I still like our matchups better. They will have to double or Nene & Gortat should kill them. If they double then Beal-Ariza-Webster should hit the 3's at home. Key matchup could be Booker vs Haslem off the bench. Watch for Beasley trying to go off back home
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#36 » by RustyMagoo » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:56 pm

How many minutes for the Janchise tonight?
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#37 » by MikeTheKid » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:12 am

Greg Oden suited up, we in trouble............Jajajajaja
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Post#38 » by Hypnotizer » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:12 am

Beautiful block, Nene!
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#39 » by miller31time » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:13 am

I don't think I've ever gotten as much joy from a block as I did from that one.
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Re: GT #37: Wizards vs Heat - January 15th - 7 pm 

Post#40 » by queridiculo » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:14 am

Always good to see Lebron take a little spill.

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