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Post#781 » by batmana » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:27 pm

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Shaq and Bosh would be pretty deadly lol


On paper they probably would but I had to dismiss that notion. I couldn't imagine the chemistry between them, let alone try to convince the judges.
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Post#782 » by whitehops » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:39 pm

so hold on... am i reading that specific player beefs are factored in? isn't that ridiculous?
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Post#783 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:47 pm

whitehops wrote:so hold on... am i reading that specific player beefs are factored in? isn't that ridiculous?


should be in the eye of the judges perhaps? I wouldnt put much stock in most of them. And as far as Shaq goes I dont take any of it seriously except Kobe and I wouldnt have a problem putting them back together. Shaq took cheap shots at half the league.
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Post#784 » by Quotatious » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:54 pm

whitehops wrote:so hold on... am i reading that specific player beefs are factored in? isn't that ridiculous?

Why would it be ridiculous?
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Post#785 » by Quotatious » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:55 pm

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Post#786 » by whitehops » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:08 pm

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whitehops wrote:so hold on... am i reading that specific player beefs are factored in? isn't that ridiculous?

Why would it be ridiculous?


because that stuff is mostly up to speculation, and not the educated kind...

plus a lot of that stuff is BS. KG beefs with everyone in the league but is a great teammate.


if a player has tendencies of being a bad teammate then maybe that should be a factor but just because shaq pushed ____ that one time doesn't mean they have 'chemistry issues' if they were on the same team lol.
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Post#787 » by CaliBullsFan » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:14 pm

Danm based on recent pick I am going to have to change course. The perfect player I was referring to before will have to wait until round 8 I just hope he makes it back to me.
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Post#788 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:17 pm

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whitehops wrote:so hold on... am i reading that specific player beefs are factored in? isn't that ridiculous?

Why would it be ridiculous?


because that stuff is mostly up to speculation, and not the educated kind...

plus a lot of that stuff is BS. KG beefs with everyone in the league but is a great teammate.


if a player has tendencies of being a bad teammate then maybe that should be a factor but just because shaq pushed ____ that one time doesn't mean they have 'chemistry issues' if they were on the same team lol.


We'll leave such issues for the judges to decide. If they feel so and so would have chemistry issues then they'll vote against you or something. It's up to you to take the risk.
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Post#789 » by Quotatious » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:27 pm

whitehops wrote:plus a lot of that stuff is BS. KG beefs with everyone in the league but is a great teammate.


if a player has tendencies of being a bad teammate then maybe that should be a factor but just because shaq pushed ____ that one time doesn't mean they have 'chemistry issues' if they were on the same team lol.

Yeah, but some of that stuff is just too obvious. I pointed out Jordan and Isiah, and that's really undeniable to me that they wouldn't get along. I think people blow it out of proportion in terms of chemistry, it's not problematic nearly as often as many people think it is (agree about Garnett).

When it becomes problematic is when you put too many scorers on a team, like people are mostly doing in this project. It's really hard to draw a line here as far as when it's enough scoring and when it's just too many guys who need the ball in their hands a lot. So basically, I think it comes down to on-court fit in terms of roles on a team, rather than personality clashes.

I think it'd be best if we left the 'chemistry' thing to judges. If a judge wants to take this factor into consideration while making their choice, it's fine. If he doesn't, it's also okay. I think it should be an individual choice of every judge what criteria he uses to settle the argument.
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Post#790 » by john248 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:28 pm

I was hoping Gerald Wallace would slip to the 10th!

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Post#791 » by whitehops » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:48 pm

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whitehops wrote:plus a lot of that stuff is BS. KG beefs with everyone in the league but is a great teammate.


if a player has tendencies of being a bad teammate then maybe that should be a factor but just because shaq pushed ____ that one time doesn't mean they have 'chemistry issues' if they were on the same team lol.

Yeah, but some of that stuff is just too obvious. I pointed out Jordan and Isiah, and that's really undeniable to me that they wouldn't get along. I think people blow it out of proportion in terms of chemistry, it's not problematic nearly as often as many people think it is (agree about Garnett).

When it becomes problematic is when you put too many scorers on a team, like people are mostly doing in this project. It's really hard to draw a line here as far as when it's enough scoring and when it's just too many guys who need the ball in their hands a lot. So basically, I think it comes down to on-court fit in terms of roles on a team, rather than personality clashes.

I think it'd be best if we left the 'chemistry' thing to judges. If a judge wants to take this factor into consideration while making their choice, it's fine. If he doesn't, it's also okay. I think it should be an individual choice of every judge what criteria he uses to settle the argument.


I agree on the chemistry part, if a player was a black hole their entire career you can't just say as part of your coaching strat 'he won't be a black hole'... imo the players should be judged based on what they did/the way they played during the years we selected. to be honest that's why I've selected unselfish players that can pass. I just think that individual beefs shouldn't matter just like teammates having chemistry IRL. ie you shouldn't just assume Stockton could run the PnR better with Malone than Dwight, just because they were teammates. base it on the player's abilities.
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Post#792 » by john248 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:31 pm

2 conversations: player who hate each other and team chemistry.
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Post#793 » by ThunderDan9 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:56 pm

OK, so I settled down with Vlade.
His finesse game should be a nice complement coming of the bench behind the freakish athleticism of Howard.
Somewhat similar to the battered down - but still awesome - 86 version of Bill Walton.
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Post#794 » by ThunderDan9 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:58 pm

CaliBullsFan wrote:Danm based on recent pick I am going to have to change course. The perfect player I was referring to before will have to wait until round 8 I just hope he makes it back to me.


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Post#795 » by Quotatious » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:25 pm

Thunder Dan, I absolutely HATE YOU, you ripped my heart out with the Divac pick. :cry: :evil: I actually have to think again who I'm going to take, because I was totally convinced about taking Vlade...Yet somehow I actually expected that someone would take him before my pick, I just thought it would've been earlier. It's especially painful now that there are only two guys before me...Damn it.
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Post#796 » by whitehops » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:00 am

good pick by calibullsfan, Maxwell was probably the best player left on my big board.


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Post#797 » by Quotatious » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:06 am

whitehops wrote:good pick by calibullsfan, Maxwell was probably the best player left on my big board.

Not even close to the best player. There's still one player who's head and shoulders above others, but he's not really a role player (not in the slighest), so I think it's too late for him to be drafted. Especially confusing considering Dominique got drafted a long time ago. And I don't mean that it's the same player whom ardee called a 'cancer'. :wink:
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Post#798 » by john248 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:56 am

Ill make my pick in less than an hour. I just got off work and heading home. 5pm pst here.

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Post#799 » by whitehops » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:00 am

Quotatious wrote:Not even close to the best player. There's still one player who's head and shoulders above others, but he's not really a role player (not in the slighest), so I think it's too late for him to be drafted. Especially confusing considering Dominique got drafted a long time ago. And I don't mean that it's the same player whom ardee called a 'cancer'. :wink:


there's a few players I say would fit that description, but maxwell brings as much to the table as they do imo.

for the first few years maxwell is eligible he is a great pick
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Post#800 » by CaliBullsFan » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:21 am

There are 4 premium scorers still out there

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