The Trade Thread

[Q00]

I'll probably get burned for this but I'm going to go ahead and ask it anyways.

Would you trade Drummond for Joel Embiid and a serviceable sf this upcoming draft day?

Embiid has shown more promise than any big man in a while.

His feel for the game, and fundamental big man moves outshine any big to come out since Dwight, he shows better skills than Dwight as well and I'm not talking 20 yr old Dwight, I'm talking current day Dwight. Oh and he's only been playing ball for 4 years now.

Tbh his arsenal is on par with Demarcus cousins - but he seems to be a better athlete and shows to have a higher IQ.

Again its just a question to gauge your feelings on Dre's potential (and if he will reach it) vs. Embiid's potential (which his game indicates is more of a sure thing).

It sounds like the player you are describing is the next Drummond. Why trade the real Drummond for a guy who might be the next Drummond?

I don't know how a college player can be more of a sure thing than a guy already in the NBA avg 13/13

[momed11]

I'll probably get burned for this but I'm going to go ahead and ask it anyways.

Would you trade Drummond for Joel Embiid and a serviceable sf this upcoming draft day?

Embiid has shown more promise than any big man in a while.

His feel for the game, and fundamental big man moves outshine any big to come out since Dwight, he shows better skills than Dwight as well and I'm not talking 20 yr old Dwight, I'm talking current day Dwight. Oh and he's only been playing ball for 4 years now.

Tbh his arsenal is on par with Demarcus cousins - but he seems to be a better athlete and shows to have a higher IQ.

Again its just a question to gauge your feelings on Dre's potential (and if he will reach it) vs. Embiid's potential (which his game indicates is more of a sure thing).

It sounds like the player you are describing is the next Drummond. Why trade the real Drummond for a guy who might be the next Drummond?

I don't know how a college player can be more of a sure thing than a guy already in the NBA avg 13/13

Honestly Embiid is far more advanced in his fundamental big man game than Drummond.

Embiid is silky smooth already while Drummond has lots of work to put in to keep getting better. Its crazy because people talked about drummond's motor not really being a sure thing and thats really what has him posting those number's (his hustle plays and being aggressive in the paint w/o the ball).

Drummond is a mega athlete, if he develops half the moves Embiid has he'll be better, but that remains to be seen.

I feel Embiid is a walking big fundamental 2.0 who will average 20 10 once he comes out.

[Notanoob]

I absolutely love Embiid. I figure him to be roughly an equal prospect to Drummond right now, but I'm no professional talent evaluator. I'd rather keep Drummond since he's already ours, but Embiid would be cheap for one year more than Drummond will be, so getting a good SF in addition to Embiid would make that a deal I'd do. Still, since it's really hard to project how a guy will turn out, I'd be very weary of such a deal, and I can't imagine that there is a team out there willing to give up what will likely be the #1 overall pick and a quality rotation player, even for Drummond. Teams usually are higher on their own prospects than someone else's.

[ComboGuardCity]

I'm going to go out on a lim and say embid is older than he says. He shows up to a camp and is magically 16?


I don't see the Hakeem comps other than being big and African.

[c-dot]

If someone offered the number one pick for Drummond that is a risk you have to take. Parker and Wiggins are the types of players you can't just stumble upon.

[ComboGuardCity]

If someone offered the number one pick for Drummond that is a risk you have to take. Parker and Wiggins are the types of players you can't just stumble upon.

And neither is a 300 lb dude who runs like a guard. The grass isn't always greener on the otherside. We should just trade Drummond for the heats 2025 pick.

[c-dot]

I'll take my chances with Parker, Smith and Monroe. I think they'll do well.

[momed11]

I'm happy with dre - this question was basically to evaluate Embiid and Dre's ceiling, and to see who had a better chance of reaching their ceiling. My point was that Embiid can reach his potential because he's already sound whereas Drummond remains a project.

We'll know what Embiid is by year 2 whereas Drummond will remain a question mark for another 3-4 years.

[ImHeisenberg]

Can anyone come up with a realistic trade for Evan Turner where we don't turn over Monroe or Drummond, that Philly would actually be interested in?

[MotownMadness]

I'll probably get burned for this but I'm going to go ahead and ask it anyways.

Would you trade Drummond for Joel Embiid and a serviceable sf this upcoming draft day?

Embiid has shown more promise than any big man in a while.

His feel for the game, and fundamental big man moves outshine any big to come out since Dwight, he shows better skills than Dwight as well and I'm not talking 20 yr old Dwight, I'm talking current day Dwight. Oh and he's only been playing ball for 4 years now.

Tbh his arsenal is on par with Demarcus cousins - but he seems to be a better athlete and shows to have a higher IQ.

Again its just a question to gauge your feelings on Dre's potential (and if he will reach it) vs. Embiid's potential (which his game indicates is more of a sure thing).

It sounds like the player you are describing is the next Drummond. Why trade the real Drummond for a guy who might be the next Drummond?

I don't know how a college player can be more of a sure thing than a guy already in the NBA avg 13/13

Honestly Embiid is far more advanced in his fundamental big man game than Drummond.

Embiid is silky smooth already while Drummond has lots of work to put in to keep getting better. Its crazy because people talked about drummond's motor not really being a sure thing and thats really what has him posting those number's (his hustle plays and being aggressive in the paint w/o the ball).

Drummond is a mega athlete, if he develops half the moves Embiid has he'll be better, but that remains to be seen.

I feel Embiid is a walking big fundamental 2.0 who will average 20 10 once he comes out.

Just about every big man is more of a fundamental player than Dre. But yet Dre is so much more dominant than almost all centers in the league already at the age of 20. Drummond is just a huge body with great instincts, crazy athleticism and amazing hands, Drummond is a very rare breed. All he's missing is a few more years experience to learn and understand the game better. I'm not trading Drummond for anybody except for a select few. He just has too much potential.

[c-dot]

Can anyone come up with a realistic trade for Evan Turner where we don't turn over Monroe or Drummond, that Philly would actually be interested in?

Turner & 2nd rounder for Stuckey and KCP

[-AI03-]

would you do monroe+cv for turner+hawes?

[MotownMadness]

Turner is a bad shooter though. He's looking like a solid player nowadays putting up good numbers but I don't know if he is what we need.

[Snakebites]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Turner is a nice player who does some good things, but acquiring him would do absolutely nothing to solve our isssues.

He doesn't help us defensively and really doesn't even make us all that much more balanced offensively, as he is another guy who really doesn't shoot the ball all that well.

He keeps coming up for us because he's:

a) a perimeter player
b) young
c) potentially available at a reasonable price given his upcoming free agency situation

That last one, BTW, is another reason we should probably stay away. Lets not increase our commitment to players who are inharmonious fits

[paQo the BAWSER]

we need a true SF who can shoot 3, something like wilson chandler, gallinari, trevor ariza

in special, i think if we offer stuckey for ariza the wizards could say yes, they need to develop otto porter nad have a long contract with webster, they dont have a good sixth man and they dont have a good SG coming of the bench neither.

if we could get rondo...

rondo-kcp-ariza-monroe-drummond... SO MUCH LOVE, and pretty defensive team

[Snakebites]

How exactly are we getting Rondo without giving up Monroe or Drummond? We don't even have a pick to deal...

[Piston Pete]

Monroe/CV/Singler to Denver for Gallo/Fournier/QMiller

[paQo the BAWSER]

How exactly are we getting Rondo without giving up Monroe or Drummond? We don't even have a pick to deal...

i know celtics would say no, that's the reason why i say we could...

but jennings+smith is not a bad package at all, and i think the celtics go to tank and the is one possibility of 1000 that they accept.

i like smith, but he don't suit on our team, and i don't like jennings cuz i see him like a ricky rubio able to shoot with good mechanic, but horrible percentages too and horrible when he go to the rim, and a black hole in defense (rubio is better defender in one on one, but so much horrible in defensive helps or passing screens)

[sc8581]

How exactly are we getting Rondo without giving up Monroe or Drummond? We don't even have a pick to deal...

i know celtics would say no, that's the reason why i say we could...

but jennings+smith is not a bad package at all, and i think the celtics go to tank and the is one possibility of 1000 that they accept.

i like smith, but he don't suit on our team, and i don't like jennings cuz i see him like a ricky rubio able to shoot with good mechanic, but horrible percentages too and horrible when he go to the rim, and a black hole in defense (rubio is better defender in one on one, but so much horrible in defensive helps or passing screens)

I have no idea what this says

[ImHeisenberg]

How exactly are we getting Rondo without giving up Monroe or Drummond? We don't even have a pick to deal...

i know celtics would say no, that's the reason why i say we could...

but jennings+smith is not a bad package at all, and i think the celtics go to tank and the is one possibility of 1000 that they accept.

i like smith, but he don't suit on our team, and i don't like jennings cuz i see him like a ricky rubio able to shoot with good mechanic, but horrible percentages too and horrible when he go to the rim, and a black hole in defense (rubio is better defender in one on one, but so much horrible in defensive helps or passing screens)

I have no idea what this says

English may not be his first language. Who knows?

I doubt Boston moves Rondo and pieces for Jennings and Smith.