The Kyle Korver Question.

[diesel50]

I know that we're all enjoying the streak. Psychologically, people enjoy a good streak. I remember enjoying baseball because of Cal Ripken Jr. and the Sammy vs. Big Mac thing. One of the things that really interested me as a basketball fan was A.C. Green (you young heads, that's before your time). In football, you gotta love those guys who never miss a day... for you Falcons fans, my main man was Mike Ken!! However, back to Korver, we have the streak... it's historical... But the Kyle Korver Question is what is he for us without considering the streak.

This is what I mean... He's a great outside shooter, but his defense is not so great. In basketball terminology, he's a specialist. He's the type of guy reserved for Championship teams. Building teams usually don't have specialist. Those guys are usually the last additions to the team. As the deadline comes up, I know that there will be a lot of guys inquiring about Sap.. but I would guess that most of the championship quality teams asking about Korver. If we keep Korver, is he the starter or is he a guy who comes off the bench to give us a boost? If we trade Korver, what is the least that we should get for him? Like I asked about DMCthealltimegreat (another specialist), is Korver a Hawks4Life guy?

[ATL Boy]

Unless we go into a full rebuild I think he is. He's the best 3 point shooter in the league (yes, better than Curry imo, although I consider Curry the league's best shooter overall). He stretches the floor and is a good player to have on any team. I don't consider him a massive liability on defense because he plays team defense well and he hustles his butt off over the course of the game. And especially now during the streak other teams are focusing more on him out at the 3 point line and that's opening things up for everyone else, we saw just how effective this was when we had Al Horfor, another legit big man next to Millsap.

Korver's game is shooting and stamina, a player never loses his jumpshot and as long as he has a good work ethic he'll be conditioned and have stamina too. Korver can play for a very long time in the league as long as he keeps his work ethic and stays injury free. We shouldn't trade him because we might have a contender in a few years (there's certainly potential), and if we don't we can always trade Korver, he's a jumpshooter who will always have a place on a contender and he'll always be tradeable provided he remains injury free. There's so much more to Korver than just this streak.

[Skyhawk1]

Korver's defense isn't great but has improved a lot in the last 3 years. He's simply the best 3pt shooter in the game. You should never take that for granted. It's very difficult to shoot the 3 ball the way this guy's done . Now, nobody's game has hurt more than his after Al went down. He can make opponents pay for double teaming and hit difficult 3 pointers as well. The problem that we have these days is that we do not have anyone inside that commands attention so teams are all over him. I think his contract isn't so bad at 6 M/year. He's also a good guy for your locker room and seems to be pretty committed to the team's system. I do not see one single reason to trade him. KEEP THE STREAK GOING.

[azuresou1]

With his contract and current level of play, I see no reason to move Korver. Unless some team wanted to give us an absolute sweetheart deal we'd HAVE to take, I'd prefer to keep him on the team.

Korver's a professional. Although in a few years he'll be much worse, he's the kind of veteran you want on your team giving presence to the young guns.

[Jamaaliver]

There are more tangible and intangible benefits to Korver being on the team than not. I view him as a specialist with a limited skillset, but he's earned his PT and has become an invaluable member of the team.

I'd have preferred a more versatile 3-pt specialist last offseason, but Kyle is able to contribute in myriad ways even when his hot isn't falling.

Plus he's a fan favorite. One of the last truly stand out players worth rooting for in the Highlight Factory.

He's a keeper.

[MaceCase]

I believe Kyle does more than enough on defense where you can't consider him a liability. One on one he will get beat by good offensive players but he's the best team defender out there who typically makes all of the right rotations and doubles. He's scoring better and is being called on to pass more too so he isn't just some stand in the corner and watch specialist. His work as a catch and shoot player running off screens needs no mention but he's also proving that he can put the ball on the floor and score off a pick or when teams are frantically chasing him off of the 3 point line after a catch.

He's simply too involved in the Hawk offense for me to consider him as a typical specialist because he's often involved in the primary and secondary action as opposed to being a tertiary or below option but if a trade is to arise then obviously teams looking to contend would be more likely suitors as you need a successfully organized system around Kyle.

You can't expect much in the way of picks or a star but certainly a young player that perhaps the other team just doesn't have the time or window to develop but the Hawks see as becoming something special or at least as good as Kyle in the future. Guys like a Tim Hardaway Jr. if the Knicks go full bananas trying to shed Udrih and go all in on the lost season. Or a Caldwell-Pope if the Pistons are equally desperate in trying to remedy their Smoove, Moose and Drummond frontcourt spacing woes. A Reggie Bullock, or Biyombo/Len if the Hornets don't feel they have time for 2 frontcourt projects, or Waiters if the rumors of his relationship with Kyrie being that bad is true, or perhaps Denver wants to consolidate some of its glut at F and G. Just some examples off the top of my head.

[parson]

Korver's been a pleasant surprise for me. His team defense, in my opinion, makes up for his man-on-man liabilities and his team offensive play has been great. He's a poor man's Reggie Miller, even curling off of screens the way Miller used to do.

He's exactly the kind of player we should hire: a solid pro who plays the game the right way. If we could have a Kyle Korver at every position and then draft better athletes but tell them, "You won't get onto the court until you can play like HE does," we'd develop a great team.

[Jamaaliver]

Where's that weird Amerisexy guy who used to make all those creepy threads about Kyle last year? Seems like this would be right up his alley...

[Jamaaliver]

You can't expect much in the way of picks or a star but certainly a young player that perhaps the other team just doesn't have the time or window to develop but the Hawks see as becoming something special or at least as good as Kyle in the future. Guys like a Tim Hardaway Jr...Or a Caldwell-Pope...A Reggie Bullock... or Waiters if the rumors of his relationship with Kyrie being that bad is true.

I have each of these young players rated very highly as potential replacements for Kyle long term.

Caldwell Pope and Reggie Bullock in particular interest me as upgrades at our two weakest positions in the organization.

Waiters, under Bud's tutelage, could become the next great Hawk player at SG. He has star potential, but literally does not know how to play the game. And player development is not exactly Mike Brown's strength.

[ATL Boy]

I absolutely love Korver (even have him as the lock screen photo on my phone) but I'd trade him for a player like Waiters or KCP in a heartbeat. With this streak and good play he's finally getting noticed around the league, and now his trade value is at a high. The Cavs are obviously looking to "somewhat" go all in, as shown by the trade for Luol Deng, if they really are looking to move Waiters then I'd be delighted if Ferry can pull off a Korver for Waiters trade.

[parson]

I'm not convinced that Ferry's goal is to have a high-priced SG. After all, you can't have max players at every position. I think Ferry's made his move at SG and it's Korver until Jenkins can beat him out. If Jenkins can't, we start over with another cheap prospect. Looking at how alike Korver and Jenkins are, it just seems to me we're trying to have a cheap-but-great-shooting SG and spend our money elsewhere.

[ATL Boy]

I'm not convinced that Ferry's goal is to have a high-priced SG. After all, you can't have max players at every position. I think Ferry's made his move at SG and it's Korver until Jenkins can beat him out. If Jenkins can't, we start over with another cheap prospect. Looking at how alike Korver and Jenkins are, it just seems to me we're trying to have a cheap-but-great-shooting SG and spend our money elsewhere.

Waiters still has a couple of years left on his rookie contract, and there's no guarantee that he'd be a max player, but if he were then we'd still be able to make a S&T or have him be a trade able asset if we did theoretically sign him to a max. The talent would be just too good to pass up.

[azuresou1]

I'm not sure how I feel about Waiters. The kid obviously has talent, but I'm not sure he has the basketball IQ to be a star. He strikes me as a DeMar DeRozan-tier guy, with worse athleticism and better handles.

[Rip2137]

Korver has been downright great on defense this year. In this team defense where we aren't leaving him on a island one on one with the other teams best scorer, he is thriving. I used to not want him on the court unless he was hot last year. This year, he offers plenty that even if his shot isn't falling, he isn't hurting us.

[Jamaaliver]

I'm not sure how I feel about Waiters. The kid obviously has talent, but I'm not sure he has the basketball IQ to be a star. He strikes me as a DeMar DeRozan-tier guy, with worse athleticism and better handles.

You just described...Manu Ginobili.

[azuresou1]

Manu Ginobili is lacking basketball IQ now?

[Jamaaliver]

Manu Ginobili is lacking basketball IQ now?

I was referring to the low athleticism, better handles portion.

But, sadly, Manu is a shell of the player he used to be. He struggles quite a bit on the floor...even with his decision making.