Gt: pistons vs wizards

[TGW]

Terrible rotations by Witt letting them back in the game

How about Nene missing a whole bunch of free throws and bunnies? I'd say that's more of a factor than rotations, which seem to be the default reason why the team loses, can't make shots, or doesn't play defense.

[queridiculo]

I hate seeing the stupid Nerlins pic at the bottom of RealGM, ready to play soon. Haven't been so mad on draft day since Blair dropped in our laps. I'm a fan of Otto Porter and advocate patience and some PT for the young man, but .... Noel ... ugh.

I see I'm not the only one... Would have been a great environment for him to be brought along slowly as well with two veteran bigs on the roster.

[TGW]

The team runs so much better with Webster instead of Beal

I don't think that there is any question that both Webster and Ariza are much better than Beal at this point... the question is do you suffer through the mistakes to let him develop...

And hope he continues to develop quickly

Beal should start but minutes should be limited depending on whether he defends, which of often depends on his shot. He tends to sulk when his shot isn't going and then everything else drops. Martell is more of a pro. He knows he's streaky but at least rebounds and tries to defend. He and Ariza seem to like playing together. Ariza knows Webby is the better shooter when he sets his feet.

If an opportunity came up to trade Beal for a young bigman, I would do it. I'm not a Beal-iever....he's too inconsistent for my liking.

[benb331]

If an opportunity came up to trade Beal for a young bigman, I would do it. I'm not a Beal-iever....he's too inconsistent for my liking.

Beal is my favorite Wizard. It's worth noting that prior to Beal, Juan Dixon held that honor. So obviously - my favorite is not necessarily the best player for this team. That said, I concur. Beal for a young big man = done deal.

[Illmatic21]

The team runs so much better with Webster instead of Beal

I don't think that there is any question that both Webster and Ariza are much better than Beal at this point... the question is do you suffer through the mistakes to let him develop...

And hope he continues to develop quickly

Beal is only 20, I think we have to give him time to adjust to the concept of playing unselfishly all the time. At the beginning of the season he was given the green light to take shots whenever he wanted, and he was probably getting too cocky for his own good. He needs to get knocked down a peg.

It's funny, the general public assumes the 'me-first'/'AAU' comments Randy has been making were directed towards Wall. In fact, out of everyone who gets minutes the very worst offender of that is Beal. He's just 2-3 years removed from playing AAU ball and you can see a lot of those bad habits.. taking bad shots, overdribbling, relaxing on defense, etc

He needs to be instructed to go back to the basics.. move the ball, play defense, and make open threes like Webster and Ariza do. Thinking you're a star doesn't make you one.

[80sballboy]

I don't think that there is any question that both Webster and Ariza are much better than Beal at this point... the question is do you suffer through the mistakes to let him develop...

And hope he continues to develop quickly

Beal should start but minutes should be limited depending on whether he defends, which of often depends on his shot. He tends to sulk when his shot isn't going and then everything else drops. Martell is more of a pro. He knows he's streaky but at least rebounds and tries to defend. He and Ariza seem to like playing together. Ariza knows Webby is the better shooter when he sets his feet.

If an opportunity came up to trade Beal for a young bigman, I would do it. I'm not a Beal-iever....he's too inconsistent for my liking.

He's 20. He should be inconsistent. He's still growing and filling out. He'll be an All-Star in two years.

[TGW]

I hate that play where Wall passes off then runs around and gets the ball back at the top of the key...totally pointless play that doesn't give the Wizards any advantage. It just wastes time on the shot clock.

[80sballboy]

Gortat just committed a foul where he wasn't 20 feet from Smith. WTF is going on with these refs? Are they anti-Euro?

[TGW]

He's 20. He should be inconsistent. He's still growing and filling out. He'll be an All-Star in two years.

He needs a TON of improvement to become a legitimate all-star. According to certain metrics, he's an average player at best.

[benb331]

He's 20. He should be inconsistent. He's still growing and filling out. He'll be an All-Star in two years.

I agree. I'd only trade Beal for a big man who projects to be a multiple all star game participant. I do see Beal having a stellar career. But a team with John doesn't need a score-first SG as the #2 option. It needs star big men with role player wings.

[80sballboy]

He's 20. He should be inconsistent. He's still growing and filling out. He'll be an All-Star in two years.

He needs a TON of improvement to become a legitimate all-star. According to certain metrics, he's an average player at best.

Thankfully, Metrics don't pick All-Stars. I don't believe in all that but I do agree that he has to improve his ballhandling, defense, and needs to finish better. But he still has great upside and is a great shooter. I wouldn't give up on him unless you're getting a premier young big man. Who is going to replace him at the 2? Why not let Wall and Beal grow together.

[benb331]

He's 20. He should be inconsistent. He's still growing and filling out. He'll be an All-Star in two years.

He needs a TON of improvement to become a legitimate all-star. According to certain metrics, he's an average player at best.

His scoring alone will generate all star nominations. Whether that's "legitimate all-star" or not will be lost on the average fan / all-star voter. Despite the advanced metrics, we're still in a PPG / APG / RPG mentality. Beal will see at least 2-3 all star games in his career if he keeps up his current progression. Those stats might be a bit empty, which is perhaps why you include word legitimate, and is certainly why I'd give him up for a legit PF/C.

[80sballboy]

I don't like when Wall shoots too much but in this case I think he has to start scoring more with the way Ariza and Beal are missing.

[TGW]

Yes, thanks god Beal is out. He's just been terrible this game.

[Illmatic21]

Watch us instantly stretch the lead out with Beal sitting

[benb331]

I tell ya - I've always doubted John Wall. Too much hype for too little productivity and intelligent basketball plays. But more and more, this guy is convincing me. Everyone knows he CAN be elite. But there's always been the question - WILL he? I'm starting to think he will.

[80sballboy]

Just no energy on the floor. Need somebody off the bench to pick them up. Maybe that's Webster.

[dckingsfan]

If he learns to play D and improves his handles, he could be a perennial all-star. Time will tell...

[80sballboy]

Watch us instantly stretch the lead out with Beal sitting

And with him out, the lead falls to 1.

[dckingsfan]

I hate that we are letting them stick around...