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Post#981 » by jredsaz » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:02 am

Ryu wrote:My point is you cannot be a contender with a starting PF who doesn`t play defense, has no motor and isn`t interested in rebounding. If you see him just as a rotation player then my bad.

He isn`t a finished product, sure, but he can hardly be a new Nowitzki or something.

I`d rather have a PF like Adriean Payne on my team, for instance.


In this system Markieff is a great fit because he can stretch the floor. Payne can fit too because of his shooting ability. I would love to draft Payne and see if he can step into that roll with +D because the Morri will be coming up for a contract the year after next. Hedge the bet.

But Markieff can play. He can be a starter on a contender if the pieces are in place around him. Best fit would be a 6th or 7th man scorer type off the bench. In that I agree. But he has skill. See if that motor develops.

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Post#982 » by INFORMER-93 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:59 am

Ryu wrote:My point is you cannot be a contender with a starting PF who doesn`t play defense, has no motor and isn`t interested in rebounding. If you see him just as a rotation player then my bad.

He isn`t a finished product, sure, but he can hardly be a new Nowitzki or something.


His motor is fine. And when I said he isn'ta finished product, I mean I don't think he's finished making the strides he can make in the areas of defense and rebounding.
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Post#983 » by Ryu » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:44 am

jredsaz wrote:
Ryu wrote:My point is you cannot be a contender with a starting PF who doesn`t play defense, has no motor and isn`t interested in rebounding. If you see him just as a rotation player then my bad.

He isn`t a finished product, sure, but he can hardly be a new Nowitzki or something.

I`d rather have a PF like Adriean Payne on my team, for instance.


In this system Markieff is a great fit because he can stretch the floor. Payne can fit too because of his shooting ability. I would love to draft Payne and see if he can step into that roll with +D because the Morri will be coming up for a contract the year after next. Hedge the bet.

But Markieff can play. He can be a starter on a contender if the pieces are in place around him. Best fit would be a 6th or 7th man scorer type off the bench. In that I agree. But he has skill. See if that motor develops.

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We are talking about Motiejunas, not Markieff.
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Post#984 » by SiMan » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:27 pm

trying to bring in zoran dragič would be the 2nd best move from the management in the last few years, he's having the greatest season of his career and he is becoming a monster

bledsoe-dragič-dragič is jizz in my pants
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Post#985 » by Jdiddy701 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:47 pm

I agree. Wouldn't mind a 10 day contract to Zoran Dragic.
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Post#986 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:10 pm

I wonder how confusing that would be for teams facing a lineup with Dragic/Dragic/Morris/Morris in it.
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Post#987 » by ShawnBronald » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:21 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I wonder how confusing that would be for teams facing a lineup with Dragic/Dragic/Morris/Morris in it.


Or, perhaps, we could trade for Jeff Green, Danny Green, Draymond Green and Willie Green to play alongside Gerald Green. :lol:
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Post#988 » by kingstyyyle » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:51 pm

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/1/16/5317500/revolutionizing-the-revolution-the-next-james-harden
Pretty awesome article by KC over at Brightside. One of the more interesting options for us this off season.
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Post#989 » by Bogyo » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:29 pm

kingstyyyle wrote:http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/1/16/5317500/revolutionizing-the-revolution-the-next-james-harden
Pretty awesome article by KC over at Brightside. One of the more interesting options for us this off season.


I even said that if someone offers Blesdoe the max, we should go for Born Ready instead. I got lukewarm comments, (with some people asking who is Born Ready)... As for a 3 guard lineup - I m not a fan. I m not even a fan of the two PG lineup.
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Post#990 » by thamadkant » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:37 pm

1. Lance Stephenson is NOT the same talent as Harden... Lance is a good versatile player, closer to a Iguadala than Harden who is an adept scorer and offensive player... A legit 25ppg type SG... Lance is more of a 15-17ppg player.


2. Lebron James cryptic message to Wade sort of gives my dream of having him come to Suns a slight boost from the dead.. Lol.
It's always been on my 2015 plan to go for Lebron.. Although it has cooled off since Suns rumours around Hayward, but that message for Wade.... As if he is saying "I have to do what's best for me in the end".

Lebron signs MAX... Then Bledsoe follows shortly to sign his mini max...

Dragic/Bledsoe/Lebron back court..

Then fill the PF and C spots with role players/youth like Plumlee, Frye, Len, Morris bros (or whomever they are traded for).

Would be a top 4 team in the NBA shortly.
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Post#991 » by Revived » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:56 am

The day that LeBron signs with the Suns is gonna be the day that hell freezes over.

It's not happening. Nice dream to have...just like having sex with Kate Upton would be a nice dream...but I wouldn't get even a bit of my hopes up for it.

And btw a team with LeBron/Dragic/Bledsoe wouldn't just be a top 4 team. It would be the best team in the league. Especially with role players like the twins, Green, Plumlee, Frye etc (assuming they all become consistent with opposing defenses spending all their attention on how to stop LeBron/Dragic/Bledsoe.
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Post#992 » by kingstyyyle » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:06 am

I agree with all the above posts. I don't think think Stevenson is on the same level as Harden but he would be a nice option if we don't sign Bledsoe or we trade Dragic(an unpopular opinion I know), or strike out on Hayward. Any combination of these 3 would make us better IMO. Dragic, Bledsoe, Stevenson, Hayward. A lot can change by the time free agency starts. Also he's a UFA so the only asset we would give up to get him is $. As far as Kate Upton, I wouldn't turn down a date just because she's single but it's always smart to keep your dance card open.
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Post#993 » by SunsFanSSOL » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:11 am

Don't want Stephenson. I think he's overrated due to the Pacers success and system, and he is no where close to Harden talent wise. I would much rather have a big SF, but I don't like Hayward either and think it would be stupid to give him the max. Stephenson also has character issues and a history of off the court and legal troubles.
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Post#994 » by Qwigglez » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:54 am

Agreed with SSOL about Stephenson being overrated. Do no want. Doesn't fit the Suns ideal image of players either off the court.
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Post#995 » by thamadkant » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:07 am

SF88 wrote:The day that LeBron signs with the Suns is gonna be the day that hell freezes over.

It's not happening. Nice dream to have...just like having sex with Kate Upton would be a nice dream...but I wouldn't get even a bit of my hopes up for it.

And btw a team with LeBron/Dragic/Bledsoe wouldn't just be a top 4 team. It would be the best team in the league. Especially with role players like the twins, Green, Plumlee, Frye etc (assuming they all become consistent with opposing defenses spending all their attention on how to stop LeBron/Dragic/Bledsoe.





If someone said suns would be a competitive this season before it started, that person would of been told to be dreaming.

Even if it's a small chance...

Unless Lebron says he hates the Suns organization and will never wear the suns uniform .... Then it's not impossible.
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Post#996 » by INFORMER-93 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:33 am

That article really only makes reference to Harden because the writer feels Stephenson can reach a higher level of play with increased responsibility, much like Harden did. But the writer qualifies his comments by saying:

To be clear here, I am not saying definitively that Stephenson will make a James Harden sort of transition. Harden is a unique offensive player with a skillset that is different from Stephenson. Harden is much more of a volume shooter than Stephenson will ever be due to his skillset that will make him more of that traditional "franchise" sort of player.


So all these "Lance Stephenson is not James Harden" responses seems somewhat unnecessary.

I'm also curious to hear more elaboration as to how Lance Stephenson is overrated?

In any event, I have no qualms with Stephenson's talent; I think he's turning into a tremendous player and difference-maker. But I just couldn't endorse pursuing him because he really is a rotten apple that Indiana has spent considerable time and resources "handling." I fear, away from Indiana, those character issues will come bubbling forth and Stephenson will become the next Vernon Maxwell.
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Post#997 » by INFORMER-93 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:42 am

1UPZ wrote:If someone said suns would be a competitive this season before it started, that person would of been told to be dreaming.

Even if it's a small chance...

Unless Lebron says he hates the Suns organization and will never wear the suns uniform .... Then it's not impossible.


Well I have to admit this: there really isn't an attractive situation for LeBron to go to, so Phoenix would have just as good of a shot as any team.

Sure, there's Cleveland, and returning there would generate all kinds of press, hype, and buzz and set up a legacy story for LeBron to come back home and save the franchise. And Kyrie Irving is better than Bledsoe. But with Cleveland playing so horribly, moron Mike Brown still at the helm, and Dan Gilbert, with the temper tantrum he threw when LeBron left, I think there is plenty there to keep LeBron away.

I could see LeBron wanting to play for Mark Cuban, but Dirk would have to take a HUGE pay cut, and would the Dirk/Monta Ellis combo be enticing to LeBron? I have my doubts.

Still, I could see LeBron being motivated to stay out of the Western Conference due to the high level of competition. LeBron is all about taking the path of least resistance. He wants a situation that will make it as easy on him as possible.
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Post#998 » by SunsFanSSOL » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:49 am

INFORMER-93 wrote:That article really only makes reference to Harden because the writer feels Stephenson can reach a higher level of play with increased responsibility, much like Harden did.


Or much like Bledsoe has done this season. I feel like we've already jumped on the next "James Harden type situation" with Bledsoe. They were both guys who deserved bigger roles, were about to be free agents and their teams wouldn't be able to afford them. I really don't see Stephenson taking a big leap at all if he is "given" his own team, I actually think he will regress without the support the Pacers have given him as you have mentioned.
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Post#999 » by Bogyo » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:58 am

[/quote]
So all these "Lance Stephenson is not James Harden" responses seems somewhat unnecessary.

I'm also curious to hear more elaboration as to how Lance Stephenson is overrated?

In any event, I have no qualms with Stephenson's talent; I think he's turning into a tremendous player and difference-maker. But I just couldn't endorse pursuing him because he really is a rotten apple that Indiana has spent considerable time and resources "handling." I fear, away from Indiana, those character issues will come bubbling forth and Stephenson will become the next Vernon Maxwell.[/quote]

Couldn't have said it better, although I feel that the Suns as an organization have a good chance of "handling" a player with these problems.

And i want to know what ppl are smoking who are saying Lebron will come here.
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Post#1000 » by Jdiddy701 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:16 am

In all seriousness, if Lebron chooses to leave Miami, why not Phoenix?

Leaving Miami would be the first step though.

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