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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#941 » by twix2500 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:52 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:^ Pat actually said Douglas has been on Heat radar for a while and that this is his opportunity...No way to know if that's BS.


I think I mention that Riley was trying to get Douglas for a while. Not only this year but in the past he has had interest in Douglas. Now dont get it twisted that interest is just as a bottom of the bench type player.

Its very unlikely that Douglas will be released unless something forseen happens within the next weeks and Bynum still available.
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Post#942 » by Slot Machine » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:48 am

Feel like Riley will cut one of Douglas/Mason depending on who plays better.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#943 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:04 am

They need to sign him, he'd at least allow them to slow the game down and get some post plays here and there.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#944 » by RJM » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:14 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:^ Pat actually said Douglas has been on Heat radar for a while and that this is his opportunity...No way to know if that's BS.


He's said that about people before. Means NOTHING, believe that.
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Post#945 » by MisterHibachi » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:03 am

Slot Machine wrote:Feel like Riley will cut one of Douglas/Mason depending on who plays better.


No one plays worse than Mason.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#946 » by Lord Hades » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:13 am

Slot Machine wrote:Feel like Riley will cut one of Douglas/Mason depending on who plays better.

I'd like this to be true. No point in the both of them if there's a big or wing defender to go after. Mason will probably get the nod because he's been here since the season started, but I like Douglas' defense. I'm thinking he'd work OK as a spot minute/emergency PG.
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Post#947 » by PacerNation24 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:50 am

Clippers broadcaster apparently said his sources told him the Pacers will sign Bynum :o
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#948 » by Slot Machine » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:27 am

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Slot Machine wrote:Feel like Riley will cut one of Douglas/Mason depending on who plays better.

I'd like this to be true. No point in the both of them if there's a big or wing defender to go after. Mason will probably get the nod because he's been here since the season started, but I like Douglas' defense. I'm thinking he'd work OK as a spot minute/emergency PG.

Douglas, in my eyes, is far better equipped to defend PGs which is all that really matters honestly. Mason can guard some SGs and can't guard SFs so he doesn't really have any versatility advantage and I feel like Douglas can be a plus defender whereas Mason is a neutral defender at best.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#949 » by Lord Hades » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:43 am

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Slot Machine wrote:Feel like Riley will cut one of Douglas/Mason depending on who plays better.

I'd like this to be true. No point in the both of them if there's a big or wing defender to go after. Mason will probably get the nod because he's been here since the season started, but I like Douglas' defense. I'm thinking he'd work OK as a spot minute/emergency PG.

Douglas, in my eyes, is far better equipped to defend PGs which is all that really matters honestly. Mason can guard some SGs and can't guard SFs so he doesn't really have any versatility advantage and I feel like Douglas can be a plus defender whereas Mason is a neutral defender at best.

I'm with you. I just don't see us making that move... unless Douglas somehow gets PT and really draws some attention. Not that it'd be hard to outperform Mason, but you know he'll get the benefit of front office favor.

Then again, we did drop Arroyo midseason for Bibby and the former had way more tenure here than Mase does.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#950 » by RJM » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:27 am

How would a Clippers broadcaster know where Andrew Bynum is signing? I'd sign him just to keep him from Indiana if they're a legitimate threat. Seriously. Cut Douglas in a heartbeat.
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Post#951 » by JimBeanz » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:53 am

Iceburg Slim wrote:How would a Clippers broadcaster know where Andrew Bynum is signing? I'd sign him just to keep him from Indiana if they're a legitimate threat. Seriously. Cut Douglas in a heartbeat.


If Indiana signs Bynum I think it would be purely to stop him going to the Heat. Indiana doesn't really need Bynum, in fact his benefit to the team will be negligible at best - he only brings size and a respectable offensive game to the table (his defensive is subpar compared to Hibbert/West/Scola). And you would think West/Hibbert/Scola provide enough interior offense for Indiana.

Also, Indiana are only $1.34 million under the luxury tax threshold. So if Bynum gets offers from a team like the Clippers or Heat for >$2mil then that might be difficult for Indiana to match (that franchise doesn't like paying tax).

On the the Toney Douglas vs. Roger Mason discussion, I would go for Douglas. From what I've seen this season, the Heat need all the youth they can get and at 27 Douglas is likely to have more hustle/energy/athleticism than the 33 y/o Mason. And to be honest Mason hasn't impressed that much offensively this season to warrant keeping him over the (supposedly) decent on-ball defence of Toney Douglas.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#952 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:19 pm

I laugh at you guys.

You really think Riley isn't after Bynum? Riley is just playing the psychological games right now. Lower the competition for his services, throw people off track, find out how Bynum is doing mentally and physically, etc.

I know that Riley would never allow this opportunity to grab a viable healthy Center like Bynum to just slip away. Especially for cheap and during a 3peat run where we want to keep the Big 3.

Riley is on it, I am sure of it.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#953 » by RJM » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:16 pm

StrengthNHonor wrote:I laugh at you guys.

You really think Riley isn't after Bynum? Riley is just playing the psychological games right now. Lower the competition for his services, throw people off track, find out how Bynum is doing mentally and physically, etc.

I know that Riley would never allow this opportunity to grab a viable healthy Center like Bynum to just slip away. Especially for cheap and during a 3peat run where we want to keep the Big 3.

Riley is on it, I am sure of it.


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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#954 » by Mars » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:23 pm

Kravitz: Indiana Pacers should take a chance on Andrew Bynum

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Go get Andrew Bynum.

Enough of the "exploratory'' stuff. Go get him. Now.

You think I'm nuts, don't you? You think Bynum is a physical mess and a mental midget who has pouted his way out of Philadelphia and Cleveland.

All of that is true.

So why is everybody ready to freak out if he ends up in Miami, where the Heat desperately need a big man who can handle Indiana Pacers center Roy Hibbert in the Eastern Conference finals.

The sense I get is the Pacers, who are now an otherworldly 31-7 after a 117-89 victory Thursday over the New York Knicks, would not make that particular move simply to ensure he doesn't end up in Miami. They would only do it if Bynum has a chance to make the Pacers better.

That's fine.

But what's wrong with ensuring he doesn't end up in Miami, where the sleeping giant might awaken when presented a chance to compete for a title? Call it a nice side benefit.

"That's all rumor,'' Larry Bird told The Indianapolis Star's Candace Buckner when asked about Bynum. "But I'm going to do what I think is going to make us better. I live this. The moves I make might be the wrong moves, but whoever it is, if I think it's going to make us better, I'll bring him in. That's what I get paid to do.''

There's a lot to love about the Pacers as they're presently constituted, but there are areas where they could handle improvement. One of those areas is backup center, where Ian Mahinmi has played reasonably well, but isn't a game-changer like Bynum can potentially be...

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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#955 » by HeatDaChamps » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:19 pm

Mars wrote:
Kravitz: Indiana Pacers should take a chance on Andrew Bynum

Bob Kravitz | Indy Star
1:30 p.m. EST January 17, 2014

Go get Andrew Bynum.

Enough of the "exploratory'' stuff. Go get him. Now.

You think I'm nuts, don't you? You think Bynum is a physical mess and a mental midget who has pouted his way out of Philadelphia and Cleveland.

All of that is true.

So why is everybody ready to freak out if he ends up in Miami, where the Heat desperately need a big man who can handle Indiana Pacers center Roy Hibbert in the Eastern Conference finals.

The sense I get is the Pacers, who are now an otherworldly 31-7 after a 117-89 victory Thursday over the New York Knicks, would not make that particular move simply to ensure he doesn't end up in Miami. They would only do it if Bynum has a chance to make the Pacers better.

That's fine.

But what's wrong with ensuring he doesn't end up in Miami, where the sleeping giant might awaken when presented a chance to compete for a title? Call it a nice side benefit.

"That's all rumor,'' Larry Bird told The Indianapolis Star's Candace Buckner when asked about Bynum. "But I'm going to do what I think is going to make us better. I live this. The moves I make might be the wrong moves, but whoever it is, if I think it's going to make us better, I'll bring him in. That's what I get paid to do.''

There's a lot to love about the Pacers as they're presently constituted, but there are areas where they could handle improvement. One of those areas is backup center, where Ian Mahinmi has played reasonably well, but isn't a game-changer like Bynum can potentially be...

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that would be hilarious if the Pacers went after Bynum just to keep him from Miami, kinda pathetic too. However, there are several plotholes to that attempt. First the pacers dont have the cap space or incentive to outbid other possible suitors for Bynum. Granted they have Hibbert, and dont have the history of spending over the cap for someone they dont rly need.

Even if they did decide to get Bynum for the SOLE purpose of keeping him away from the heat, i doubt Bynum who is going for playing time and money, would go for an offer that is only around the vet min, and to sit on the bench behind Hibbert. Doubt Bynum would love that. Bynum wants to win? You ask, sure but i dont think winning is his top priority. Never has been.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#956 » by KingDavid » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:19 pm

Bynum wouldn't accept the minimum to come off the bench behind someone who he probably feels isn't better than he is. It's improbable.
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Post#957 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:42 pm

The interesting think is that it's taking all this time for Bynum to find a team..I was under the impression he would sign a deal as soon as he becomes a FA.

It's been almost 2 weeks and he's just out there, waiting for what exactly? You've go to wonder if he's even training and keeps in shape in the meantime.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#958 » by KingDavid » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:03 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:The interesting think is that it's taking all this time for Bynum to find a team..I was under the impression he would sign a deal as soon as he becomes a FA.

It's been almost 2 weeks and he's just out there, waiting for what exactly? You've go to wonder if he's even training and keeps in shape in the meantime.

I think he's training. I don't see why he'd just sit there and not do anything if he wants to play for a contender and show up out of shape. He's got to lay off the greed or he's just going to end up without a team. Eight suitors and no one bit yet? That can't be good.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#959 » by Jaxon » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:03 am

It is weird it's taking all this time. It's like something we don't know about is going on below the surface. I have to think he's waiting on something, and I feel like it has something to do with us.
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Post#960 » by Altered_Beast » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:07 am

Jaxon wrote:It is weird it's taking all this time. It's like something we don't know about is going on below the surface. I have to think he's waiting on something, and I feel like it has something to do with us.

has douglas even joined the team yet? i think thats telling
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