The Trade Thread

[DetroitPistons]

FWIW, The C's board has rejected trades involving Monroe, Jennings, (filler) for Rondo & Green... we might be overvaluing our guys.

Possibly but every team has homer fans and they would reject just about anything outside of a blockbuster return so I don't put all of my stock in fans opinions. I do agree that isn't enough though. We would at least need to throw in picks and possibly KCP or Singler imo.

[ComboGuardCity]

I'll be genuinely pissed if we give up KCP.

[ComboGuardCity]

Rondo is also expiring next year fwiw.

[MotownMadness]

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The Pistons are eyeing a Rajon Rondo trade. (via The Detroit Press)

I really hope this is true. Here is my semi-pipedream scenario. We trade Monroe/Jennings/2 first rounders for Rondo. I think that is a fair deal for a player with past locker room issues who is just coming off an ACL injury. That gives us a superstar PG, a rising superstar center, and a jack-of-all-trades guy in Smith to go along with a promising rookie with already elite defense in KCP and hopefully a resigned supersub in Stuckey. If we land Rondo I think that might be enough to entice Melo to come to Detroit if we finish the season strong and perhaps make it to the second round. We would sign Melo in the offseason and resign Stuckey and Singler to go over the cap if need be and fill the roster out with veteran players. Next season looks like:

Rondo/Billups
Caldwell-Pope/Stuckey
Anthony/Singler
Smith
Drummond

It sounds crazy right now but If we can land Rondo I think it becomes at least a possibility.

I don't think we should have to throw in two first rounders. I mean we would be giving the a 23 year old 16 and 10 center already. I really hope KCP wouldn't be included either because I really like him and his defense is exactly what we should be trying to make our identity with Rondo,KCP,Smith and Drummond.

[Laimbeer]

. Here is my semi-pipedream scenario. We trade Monroe/Jennings/2 first rounders for Rondo. I think that is a fair deal for a player with past locker room issues who is just coming off an ACL injury. That gives us a superstar PG, a rising superstar center, and a jack-of-all-trades guy in Smith to go along with a promising rookie with already elite defense in KCP and hopefully a resigned supersub in Stuckey. If we land Rondo I think that might be enough to entice Melo to come to Detroit if we finish the season strong and perhaps make it to the second round. We would sign Melo in the offseason and resign Stuckey and Singler to go over the cap if need be and fill the roster out with veteran players. Next season looks like:

Rondo/Billups
Caldwell-Pope/Stuckey
Anthony/Singler
Smith
Drummond

It sounds crazy right now but If we can land Rondo I think it becomes at least a possibility.

I posted something similar about Melo on the Trade board. You have to take chances if you're really serious about getting to the top. I don't think it's impossible to land Melo if Rondo and perhaps another star is here.

This was proposed over there...

Drummond, Josh Smith, Brandon Jennings for Rondo, Olynyk and Sullinger, plus BOS's 1st (unprotected) this year.

Do that, then you have Monroe and Boston's pick to shop for a high end big guy. That could be enough to get Rondo to extend and Melo to sign if they see they'll be part of a big three situation.

[MotownMadness]

. Here is my semi-pipedream scenario. We trade Monroe/Jennings/2 first rounders for Rondo. I think that is a fair deal for a player with past locker room issues who is just coming off an ACL injury. That gives us a superstar PG, a rising superstar center, and a jack-of-all-trades guy in Smith to go along with a promising rookie with already elite defense in KCP and hopefully a resigned supersub in Stuckey. If we land Rondo I think that might be enough to entice Melo to come to Detroit if we finish the season strong and perhaps make it to the second round. We would sign Melo in the offseason and resign Stuckey and Singler to go over the cap if need be and fill the roster out with veteran players. Next season looks like:

Rondo/Billups
Caldwell-Pope/Stuckey
Anthony/Singler
Smith
Drummond

It sounds crazy right now but If we can land Rondo I think it becomes at least a possibility.

I posted something similar about Melo on the Trade board. You have to take chances if you're really serious about getting to the top. I don't think it's impossible to land Melo if Rondo and perhaps another star is here.

This was proposed over there...

Drummond, Josh Smith, Brandon Jennings for Rondo, Olynyk and Sullinger, plus BOS's 1st (unprotected) this year.

Do that, then you have Monroe and Boston's pick to shop for a high end big guy. That could be enough to get Rondo to extend and Melo to sign if they see they'll be part of a big three situation.

Hell no, No way you trade Drummond. That first rounder looks good but for all we know one of those guys could be a bust and we will look really foolish.

[DetroitPistons]

I don't think we should have to throw in two first rounders. I mean we would be giving the a 23 year old 16 and 10 center already. I really hope KCP wouldn't be included either because I really like him and his defense is exactly what we should be trying to make our identity with Rondo,KCP,Smith and Drummond.

You have to give some to get some. There is no way BOS gives us Rondo for just Monroe. We need add picks and prospects to make the value equal.

[DetroitPistons]

. Here is my semi-pipedream scenario. We trade Monroe/Jennings/2 first rounders for Rondo. I think that is a fair deal for a player with past locker room issues who is just coming off an ACL injury. That gives us a superstar PG, a rising superstar center, and a jack-of-all-trades guy in Smith to go along with a promising rookie with already elite defense in KCP and hopefully a resigned supersub in Stuckey. If we land Rondo I think that might be enough to entice Melo to come to Detroit if we finish the season strong and perhaps make it to the second round. We would sign Melo in the offseason and resign Stuckey and Singler to go over the cap if need be and fill the roster out with veteran players. Next season looks like:

Rondo/Billups
Caldwell-Pope/Stuckey
Anthony/Singler
Smith
Drummond

It sounds crazy right now but If we can land Rondo I think it becomes at least a possibility.

I posted something similar about Melo on the Trade board. You have to take chances if you're really serious about getting to the top. I don't think it's impossible to land Melo if Rondo and perhaps another star is here.

This was proposed over there...

Drummond, Josh Smith, Brandon Jennings for Rondo, Olynyk and Sullinger, plus BOS's 1st (unprotected) this year.

Do that, then you have Monroe and Boston's pick to shop for a high end big guy. That could be enough to get Rondo to extend and Melo to sign if they see they'll be part of a big three situation.

Drummond is deal breaker. No way we trade him. It has to be centered around Monroe and Jennings. Like I said, adding in first rounders and even KCP or Singler should be enough. There's no need to include Drummond. Also, Smith and Rondo are friends so I would think they want to play with each other, not be traded for each other.

[MotownMadness]

I don't think we should have to throw in two first rounders. I mean we would be giving the a 23 year old 16 and 10 center already. I really hope KCP wouldn't be included either because I really like him and his defense is exactly what we should be trying to make our identity with Rondo,KCP,Smith and Drummond.

You have to give some to get some. There is no way BOS gives us Rondo for just Monroe. We need add picks and prospects to make the value equal.

If were throwing in two picks,Jennings and Monroe than I want both Rondo and Green. That's way too much for just Rondo in my opinion.

[j_angel]

As a C's fan (Hope you dont mind me posting here) I actually wouldnt hate the idea of getting Jennings back in the deal. He isnt an all star PG or anything but his deal isnt crippling so I wouldnt mind giving him a shot if we decide to keep on tanking and move Rondo.

I do like Monroe also but his extension worries me.

Monroe, Jennings for Rondo, filler doesn't quite get me interested to be honest.

If I am Ainge I start by saying:
Rondo, Wallace for Monroe, Jennings, CV, 1st and see what you say.

EDIT: Rondo is also more likely to stay in Detroit and extend if you keep Smith.

Rondo - KCP - ??? - Smith - Drummond is the start of an elite defensive team and a very athletic offensive team. Chuck in some shooters and its gunna trouble a lot of teams in the East.

[DetroitPistons]

I don't think we should have to throw in two first rounders. I mean we would be giving the a 23 year old 16 and 10 center already. I really hope KCP wouldn't be included either because I really like him and his defense is exactly what we should be trying to make our identity with Rondo,KCP,Smith and Drummond.

You have to give some to get some. There is no way BOS gives us Rondo for just Monroe. We need add picks and prospects to make the value equal.

If were throwing in two picks,Jennings and Monroe than I want both Rondo and Green. That's way too much for just Rondo in my opinion.

I disagree. Rondo is considered a top 5 PG by many. Look at what it cost to get a guy like Deron Williams. Monroe has regressed this season and has nowhere near the value Rondo does. Also, Jennings isn't exactly a guy people are fighting to get. Picks/prospects absolutely need to be added to make it fair. I would be more than happy to rid us of Jennings, bring in an elite PG who distributes AND defends, and balance this roster out all within one trade and the price of giving up a couple first rounders. We need drastic changes and being overly conservative with our assets is not the way to go.

[MotownMadness]

As a C's fan (Hope you dont mind me posting here) I actually wouldnt hate the idea of getting Jennings back in the deal. He isnt an all star PG or anything but his deal isnt crippling so I wouldnt mind giving him a shot if we decide to keep on tanking and move Rondo.

I do like Monroe also but his extension worries me.

Monroe, Jennings for Rondo, filler doesn't quite get me interested to be honest.

If I am Ainge I start by saying:
Rondo, Wallace for Monroe, Jennings, CV, 1st and see what you say.

EDIT: Rondo is also more likely to stay in Detroit and extend if you keep Smith.

Rondo - KCP - ??? - Smith - Drummond is the start of an elite defensive team and a very athletic offensive team. Chuck in some shooters and its gunna trouble a lot of teams in the East.

If Rondo wasn't just coming off a injury then maybe. But were taking big risk here as well.

[DetroitPistons]

As a C's fan (Hope you dont mind me posting here) I actually wouldnt hate the idea of getting Jennings back in the deal. He isnt an all star PG or anything but his deal isnt crippling so I wouldnt mind giving him a shot if we decide to keep on tanking and move Rondo.

I do like Monroe also but his extension worries me.

Monroe, Jennings for Rondo, filler doesn't quite get me interested to be honest.

If I am Ainge I start by saying:
Rondo, Wallace for Monroe, Jennings, CV, 1st and see what you say.

EDIT: Rondo is also more likely to stay in Detroit and extend if you keep Smith.

Rondo - KCP - ??? - Smith - Drummond is the start of an elite defensive team and a very athletic offensive team. Chuck in some shooters and its gunna trouble a lot of teams in the East.

Taking back Wallace would be a last resort but ultimately I would do it for the right deal. What did you think of my proposal of Monroe/Jennings/2016 first/2018 first for Rondo?

[DetroitPistons]

As a C's fan (Hope you dont mind me posting here) I actually wouldnt hate the idea of getting Jennings back in the deal. He isnt an all star PG or anything but his deal isnt crippling so I wouldnt mind giving him a shot if we decide to keep on tanking and move Rondo.

I do like Monroe also but his extension worries me.

Monroe, Jennings for Rondo, filler doesn't quite get me interested to be honest.

If I am Ainge I start by saying:
Rondo, Wallace for Monroe, Jennings, CV, 1st and see what you say.

EDIT: Rondo is also more likely to stay in Detroit and extend if you keep Smith.

Rondo - KCP - ??? - Smith - Drummond is the start of an elite defensive team and a very athletic offensive team. Chuck in some shooters and its gunna trouble a lot of teams in the East.

If Rondo wasn't just coming off a injury then maybe. But were taking big risk here as well.

I'm not 100% sure but I think taking back Wallace for CV would eliminate our capspace to go after Melo or a "plan B" SF in the offseason. I'm really not liking the idea of Wallace but again, if it had to be done I would pull the trigger for the right price.

[Piston Pete]

IMO, we don't need Rondo. We need guys who can hit the outside shot. We need to be building around Drummond.

[Snakebites]

IMO, we don't need Rondo. We need guys who can hit the outside shot. We need to be building around Drummond.

This team does need a point guard who can play defense and pass like Rondo.

Unfortunately this team also needs to get rid of all of the chuckers and non-shooters that make Rondo a poor fit with the current (horribly constructed) roster.

At this point I'm not really using poor fit with the current roster as a criteria for who we should and should not acquire. The current roster has failed, and anything that improves this teams ability level is something I like in the long term. Rondo would be our best player.

With that said I don't think a package around Jennings/Monroe does it, unless we're taking back a bad deal, something I'm not sure I'd be willing to do given the current state of things.

[ComboGuardCity]

With that said I don't think a package around Jennings/Monroe does it, unless we're taking back a bad deal, something I'm not sure I'd be willing to do given the current state of things.

Rondo only has one year left. A lot like Dwight did. They got afflalo, 2 mid first round prospects, and a heavily protected pick. Rondo is coming off an ACL injury and he was never worth as much as Dwight. Jennings and MOnroe should be more than enough.

[DetroitPistons]

IMO, we don't need Rondo. We need guys who can hit the outside shot. We need to be building around Drummond.

This team does need a point guard who can play defense and pass like Rondo.

Unfortunately this team also needs to get rid of all of the chuckers and non-shooters that make Rondo a poor fit with the current (horribly constructed) roster.

At this point I'm not really using poor fit with the current roster as a criteria for who we should and should not acquire. The current roster has failed, and anything that improves this teams ability level is something I like in the long term. Rondo would be our best player.

With that said I don't think a package around Jennings/Monroe does it, unless we're taking back a bad deal, something I'm not sure I'd be willing to do given the current state of things.

I agree. This team sucks badly at the moment. We are in no position to worry about who fits best. We need to focus on bringing in core players who upgrade our talent, especially defensively. If we can get Rondo for a decent deal we should do it.

[sfballa13]

I think if we give Boston a homerun offer we can take back Rondo and Green

Rondo, Green, Wallace, Bass

for

Starters (Monroe and Jennings) ---- Expiring (Stuckey and Charlie V) ---- Trash (Jerebko, Datome, Mitchell)

Rondo / Bynum
KCP / Singler
Green / Wallace
Smith / Bass
Drummond / Harrelson

[ComboGuardCity]

Stuckey, Charlie V, Monroe, Jennings works for Rondo, Green, Wallace. Bring in a 3rd team to take on Stuckey for young guys. I can see that happening.

Not sure I'm on board.