Brooklyn Nets 10-4 when AK47 plays, 8-2 since his return

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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#21 » by Xsy » Thu Jan 9, 2014 7:49 am

TommyB wrote:Why are we calling him AK47? When was the last time Andrei Kirilenko was relevant?


lol you must be the worst kind of basketball fan.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#22 » by Joao Saraiva » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:09 am

Good defender, very versatile. He's also a good rebounder and he's ok with his scoring. Nets are winning, D-Will was out the last 2 games and Brook Lopez is injured.

Blatche also deserves to be mentioned, he's game seems to have improved a lot over last season, at least that's how I see it.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#23 » by Andre3822 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:17 am

He is a hustle player whose energy is contagious.

His career would have been a lot more epic if it weren't for injuries.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#24 » by XTC » Thu Jan 9, 2014 9:21 am

Iversean wrote:I think sometimes we underestimate certain players value to teams. Although he's not a major piece to the team, he's still a very useful player that contributes in many ways.

One single player could make a big difference, doesn't even need to be a starter.

I expect the Nets to take the Atlantic when it's all said and done, finish in the 3 or 4 slot and make a very interesting second round matchup with the Heat or Pacers.


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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#25 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:24 pm

6-3 actually, but 4-1 since he came back from injury.

More impressive..Nets are undefeated in 2014 and when Jason Kidd doesn't wear a tie.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#26 » by Adam1221 » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:40 pm

As a Nets fan I dont see this team being anything more than a 2nd round team if they manage to get a 6th - 3rd seed.
But than again after the way this season started I'm sooooo buying that.

BTW Kirilenko has been the clear cut best player on the team.
The team is soooooo much better with him.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#27 » by Dupas » Thu Jan 9, 2014 4:10 pm

deliriousmouse wrote:He cost us a Good pick last year being so damn productive.

Incredibly efficient, Incredible defender, Really under-rated player, Too bad he'll miss a third of the season because he's doing some raids on wow....Oh i mean Back Spasms....yeah thats believable!

Elite D and doesn't need the ball in his hand to make a positive difference on your team, He'll hit over 45% of his shots, rebound well and lock down shooting guards to Power Forwards

However Brooklyn are still in the middle of the road and if they are going to have to rely on AK to pull them in the eastern finals they are in some pretty bad situation. He made the timberwolves "Not suck heaps" last year being around carrying injuries, He's not someone who can carry a team

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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#28 » by Palmeirense » Thu Jan 9, 2014 5:26 pm

Dupas wrote:
deliriousmouse wrote:He cost us a Good pick last year being so damn productive.

Incredibly efficient, Incredible defender, Really under-rated player, Too bad he'll miss a third of the season because he's doing some raids on wow....Oh i mean Back Spasms....yeah thats believable!

Elite D and doesn't need the ball in his hand to make a positive difference on your team, He'll hit over 45% of his shots, rebound well and lock down shooting guards to Power Forwards

However Brooklyn are still in the middle of the road and if they are going to have to rely on AK to pull them in the eastern finals they are in some pretty bad situation. He made the timberwolves "Not suck heaps" last year being around carrying injuries, He's not someone who can carry a team


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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#29 » by BK nets BK » Thu Jan 9, 2014 7:17 pm

Adam1221 wrote:As a Nets fan I dont see this team being anything more than a 2nd round team if they manage to get a 6th - 3rd seed.
But than again after the way this season started I'm sooooo buying that.

BTW Kirilenko has been the clear cut best player on the team.
The team is soooooo much better with him.

Joe Johnson has been the best all season. Kirelinko hasn't played enough to be the best player this year
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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#30 » by Paradise » Thu Jan 9, 2014 7:52 pm

There was a play late during the game where Joe Johnson missed a three and the ball hit the top of the backboard, Bogut boxed out Kirilenko and somehow he tipped it off Bogut out of bounds and the Nets scored off that hustle play.

It's ashame we couldn't have him during his prime. He's a joy to watch.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets now 4-1 when AK47 plays 

Post#31 » by Novocaine » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:02 am

Me, weeks ago to a thread titled "who deserves the Nets blame?"

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1283691&p=37516270#p37516270

Impacien wrote:What deserves the Net blame is a better question and it's that exact thing I've been on since pre-season: this team needs A LOT of minutes of Andrei Kirilenko at the 4 and a lot of minutes to a speedier backcourt player in the rotation.

Their current line-up/rotation is simply too SLOW. Garnett and Lopez is a dreadful defensive combo in extended minutes especially when they already have relatively slow players on the backcourt. People need to stop living 10 years ago, it's the same phenomenon that lead people to believe Asik/Howard would simply outplay any small-ball combinations, to recall a discussion I've had here recently (or who didn't understand Odom was the Lakers starting PF prior to be traded and essential to make that team work).
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 6-3 when AK47 plays, 4-1 since his return 

Post#32 » by bdp31770 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:24 pm

Garnett and Lopez is a dreadful defensive combo in extended minutes especially when they already have relatively slow players on the backcourt.

Just as important as Kirilenko returning, has been Garnett moving to center, where he is much better suited to play now. I don't know why he hates it so much, seeing as he was shooting about 40% as a power forward and about 60% as a center.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 6-3 when AK47 plays, 4-1 since his return 

Post#33 » by Trader_Joe » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:50 pm

bdp31770 wrote:
Garnett and Lopez is a dreadful defensive combo in extended minutes especially when they already have relatively slow players on the backcourt.

Just as important as Kirilenko returning, has been Garnett moving to center, where he is much better suited to play now. I don't know why he hates it so much, seeing as he was shooting about 40% as a power forward and about 60% as a center.


From the Brooklyn game...


His impact on the defensive end is almost too big for statistics to grasp, but let’s give it a shot: since January 1st, the Nets have allowed opponents to score 107.2 points per 100 possessions with Garnett off the floor, and 87.9 points per 100 possessions with him on the floor.

I fear stating the numbers doesn’t quantify how ridiculous they are, so let’s make some comparisons. Indiana’s league-best defense allows teams to score 92.8 points per 100 possessions. The Garnett-led Nets in 2014 are nearly a full five points better than that. Utah’s league-worst defense clocks in at around 107.6 points per 100 possessions, just a hair below the Garnett-benched Nets.

In sum: with Kevin Garnett on the floor, the Nets make the league’s best defense look average. With Garnett off the floor, the Nets look like the league’s worst defense. It’s that significant.

In 2014, the Nets allow 47.5 percent shooting on 17.8 attempts per 48 minutes in the restricted area with Garnett on the floor, and 58.7 percent shooting on 25.9 attempts per 48 minutes in the restricted area with him off. The difference is staggering.


Also...


8-1 in 2014.
W- NY, OKC, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta x2, GS, Cleveland
L - @ TOR (back to back after Miami double OT win, didn't get to Toronto until 4am, no D.Will or KG (or Lopez), still up 10 late in the 3rd before an utter collapse.

Biggest reasons IMO

a. JJ's stellar play
b. Livingston starting
c. KG at C and hitting his jumper more
d. AK's presence
e. The team simply finding chemistry over time
f. Small ball
g. Kidd's player development and management.
(Teletovic was given a chance and is thriving, Plumlee has been groomed well, PP coming off the bench post injury and being selfless which rubbed off on D.Will coming off the bench now, Livingston having his best season ever, Blatche's vacation/suspension which woke him up)
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 6-3 when AK47 plays, 4-1 since his return 

Post#34 » by Inevitable » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:18 pm

Brooklyn is the real 3rd seed in the East.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 6-3 when AK47 plays, 4-1 since his return 

Post#35 » by Trader_Joe » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:28 pm

Inevitable wrote:Brooklyn is the real 3rd seed in the East.

They are playing like it right now, but not sure they will be.

Toronto has been playing well, has a 2 game lead and could improve in trade.
Washington also can make a case with their back court, bigs and the fact they have assets to get better as well.
BK doesn't have the assets to get better.

Chicago has been playing very well and always manage to win during the regular season.

I think they over take Atlanta, but I'm not sure about the other three.
Nets supposedly have the 2nd easiest schedule going forward, but also have the most games and the oldest team.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 6-3 when AK47 plays, 4-1 since his return 

Post#36 » by isekii » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:06 pm

Honestly as long as Brooklyn makes the playoffs which is 99.9% possible. They'll be fine.
Continue limiting starters minutes while getting great wins = recipe for success in the post season.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 6-3 when AK47 plays, 4-1 since his return 

Post#37 » by Novocaine » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:59 pm

bdp31770 wrote:
Garnett and Lopez is a dreadful defensive combo in extended minutes especially when they already have relatively slow players on the backcourt.

Just as important as Kirilenko returning, has been Garnett moving to center, where he is much better suited to play now. I don't know why he hates it so much, seeing as he was shooting about 40% as a power forward and about 60% as a center.


Yeah, that was my point.

Garnett has been much better at the 5 than at the 4, especially defensively but also offensively, for some years now. Since he returned from the knee injury.

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