2014 Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread

[bwgood77]

The one thing that irks me is that we fans finally see Len play decent and give the Suns hope and this rumour comes up. Maybe is McD is trying to re-visit the Kevin Love boat... By using 76ers as the leverage ... This rumour pops up as soon as Len has a good game... So maybe there was some interest at the start then it died down because Len hasn't shown anything then now he shows some potential and interest is back up.

It's not a rumor, just Simmons playing with trade machine.

I don't even think Simmons tweeted it, I don't see any mentions of him tweeting or deleting anything about the Suns on twitter. In fact, if you search on twitter "Trade: Sixers rec: E. Okafor, A. Len & 2014 1st rd pick. Suns rec: T. Young, E. Turner & J. Anderson." what Simmons supposedly tweeted, you'll find that one random Sixers fan tweeted that to him today and tweeted the same thing to another basketball guy a week ago. It's just some random Sixer fan's trade idea, I don't know how it caught steam. Nothing to see here.

Some Suns fan mentioned it a few pages back in this thread. I don't think he was lying, but I don't know what Simmons' tweet said exactly. Usually he throws out random trade ideas using the trade machine and specifies it as that.

I'm pretty sure it is BS because he is not really a source for this kind of info. It's just odd that he deleted it (after he tweeted it).

As I mentioned before, I think the only way we would even THINK about trading Len in a deal like this is if we really wanted to try and compete now and had a second deal already in place to trade Frye for Asik.

So basically, I wouldn't put any credence in Bill Simmons, but we've heard from several different sources (valid or not) that the Suns like Young.

If we could trade a pick and Okafor for Young and then Frye for Asik, while keeping Len, I could go for that. We would suddenly have an elite defense and some more athleticism.

[Qwigglez]

If we could get Young and Turner WITHOUT giving up Len, I would do the deal immediately and run. No way that rumor is true, it's too good.

Over who would you play Young though? Over one or both of the Morris twins? Over Frye? Over Len? Over Plumlee?

Young is effective as a PF cause he's a mismatch.

I'm not a super big fan of Young cause he's bad defensively but if he's replacing Frye and we are sending Frye elsewhere, then fine. But otherwise, trading for Young does nothing but create a log jam.

I'd imagine any trade with the Sixers involved would have us trading the Morris twins.

[Ring_Wanted]

As I mentioned before, I think the only way we would even THINK about trading Len in a deal like this is if we really wanted to try and compete now and had a second deal already in place to trade Frye for Asik.
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If we could trade a pick and Okafor for Young and then Frye for Asik, while keeping Len, I could go for that. We would suddenly have an elite defense and some more athleticism.

Interior defense is not really a problem. Frye more than holds his own there, and so does Miles and then some. I'd guess Len will help there when/if he gets in shape.

What in my opinion we really need is post offense and defensive rebounding. Frye can play some in the post if the matchup is right, but that's it, and his rebounding is under average, but again we could have Len, whose size gives us a potential monster on the boards.

Asik is a zero on offense, but is certainly interesting since he is this post wall and also an elite rebounder, but losing Frye's 3pt is something I would not do under the current system, at least not for Asik when we can develop Len and also considering his contract status.

Really, I think it's the Morrii the ones who make sense to try to move. Personally I can't complain about what they are giving us this season (I was against exercising the TOs, mind you), but I think they are, along with Green, the most replaceable rotation players, above all if we indeed enter the draft with multiple 1stR picks.

Frye-Miles-Young-Len would be a sweet PF/C rotation with no clear weakness neither in physical terms nor skill wise (obviously beyond not having an Aldridge/Love/Griffin etc).

[Ring_Wanted]

Oh, and Frye/Miles/Pau/len wouldn't be bad either. And probably cheaper to assemble.

[gaspar]

Frye-Miles-Young-Len would be a sweet PF/C rotation with no clear weakness neither in physical terms nor skill wise (obviously beyond not having an Aldridge/Love/Griffin etc).

Thad Young is a huge liability on the glass and defending the low post. Love, Aldridge, Griffin, Z-Bo, Lee, Duncan, Dirk etc. would eat him alive in a play-off series.

Besides that hot streak in December when he was shooting threes at an unsustainable rate Thad has been very mediocre his whole career.

Oh, and Frye/Miles/Pau/len wouldn't be bad either. And probably cheaper to assemble.

Pau is exactly the kind of player McDonough said he won't trade for.

[Qwigglez]

Paul Coro said there is nothing he knows about a trade...

[GetYourPHX]

Had some fun in the trade machine and I wanted to see what you guys thought of a trade I wouldn't mind to see go down at the trade deadline. I realize the whole trade pretty much hinges on Andersons health, so it'd have to wait a while to get done.

PHX out - Okafor, Morris, Morris, Len, PHX 14' 1st, WAS 1st, MIN 1st, IND 1st
PHX in - Noah, Anderson, Aminu, Stimesma

CHI out - Noah, Boozer
CHI in - Okafor, Morris, Morris, PHX 1st, WAS 1st

NO out - Anderson, Aminu, Stimesma
NO in - Len, Boozer, Picks, IND 1st, MIN 1st

Suns after the trade -

Bledsoe/Smith
Dragic/Barbosa/Goodwin
Tucker/Green
Anderson/Frye
Noah/Plumlee

Next year Suns re-up Bledsoe/Tucker and also look to a SF like Marion/Granger/Jefferson. Bada boom, that's a deep team that's a threat to hit 20 three's a game. Suns keep their 2015 pick and the Lakers 2015 pick, so they aren't mortgaging their future.

Pels end up with a front court that has sky high potential, a couple of picks to replace the ones they traded away, and 2016 cap space to keep guys around.

Chicago hits the reset, unloads Boozer's contract, and gets some picks and the cap space to sign Melo this offseason.

[King4Day]

Had some fun in the trade machine and I wanted to see what you guys thought of a trade I wouldn't mind to see go down at the trade deadline. I realize the whole trade pretty much hinges on Andersons health, so it'd have to wait a while to get done.

PHX out - Okafor, Morris, Morris, Len, PHX 14' 1st, WAS 1st, MIN 1st, IND 1st
PHX in - Noah, Anderson, Aminu, Stimesma

CHI out - Noah, Boozer
CHI in - Okafor, Morris, Morris, PHX 1st, WAS 1st

NO out - Anderson, Aminu, Stimesma
NO in - Len, Boozer, Picks, IND 1st, MIN 1st

Suns after the trade -

Bledsoe/Smith
Dragic/Barbosa/Goodwin
Tucker/Green
Anderson/Frye
Noah/Plumlee

Next year Suns re-up Bledsoe/Tucker and also look to a SF like Marion/Granger/Jefferson. Bada boom, that's a deep team that's a threat to hit 20 three's a game. Suns keep their 2015 pick and the Lakers 2015 pick, so they aren't mortgaging their future.

Pels end up with a front court that has sky high potential, a couple of picks to replace the ones they traded away, and 2016 cap space to keep guys around.

Chicago hits the reset, unloads Boozer's contract, and gets some picks and the cap space to sign Melo this offseason.

I feel like that package would net us a star (IE: Melo). In this scenario, we're giving up too much for players who won't be enough to take us to the next level.

[TOO]

Zero interest in that move. Anderson is redundant with Frye, Aminu is a 3/4 tweener with no offensive game. Stiemsma is redundant with Plumlee, Noah is a great player, but I'm not moving Len, an expiring deal, and 4 1sts to get him.

[OleSchool]

He guys, Philly fan here. I just tweeted a Sixers writer and asked about the Len trade and the other trade with just Thad and he said not true

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Had some fun in the trade machine and I wanted to see what you guys thought of a trade I wouldn't mind to see go down at the trade deadline. I realize the whole trade pretty much hinges on Andersons health, so it'd have to wait a while to get done.

PHX out - Okafor, Morris, Morris, Len, PHX 14' 1st, WAS 1st, MIN 1st, IND 1st
PHX in - Noah, Anderson, Aminu, Stimesma

CHI out - Noah, Boozer
CHI in - Okafor, Morris, Morris, PHX 1st, WAS 1st

NO out - Anderson, Aminu, Stimesma
NO in - Len, Boozer, Picks, IND 1st, MIN 1st

Suns after the trade -

Bledsoe/Smith
Dragic/Barbosa/Goodwin
Tucker/Green
Anderson/Frye
Noah/Plumlee

Next year Suns re-up Bledsoe/Tucker and also look to a SF like Marion/Granger. Bada boom, that's a deep team that's a threat to hit 20 three's a game. Suns keep their 2015 pick and the Lakers 2015 pick, so they aren't mortgaging their future.

Pels end up with a front court that has sky high potential, a couple of picks to replace the ones they traded away, and 2016 cap space to keep guys around.

Chicago hits the reset, gets some picks and the cap space to sign Melo this offseason.

Boo! The best way we can improve our position is by investing in Alex Len, who, unlike Noah and Anderson, will appreciate in value. Moreover, Len and Plumlee are more different than Noah and Plumlee, whom I don't believe could share much time on the court. Also, we'd be in better position to acquire a better SF than Granger via FA (say, Melo, Turner, Hayward, Deng, LeBron) if we lay off the expensive contracts til this offseason.

I'm growing to accept, more and more, the idea that making no trades before the draft is probably a good idea. Barbosa's a nice enough mid-season addition for me. Let 'em play I say!

[TOO]

He guys, Philly fan here. I just tweeted a Sixers writer and asked about the Len trade and the other trade with just Thad and he said not true

The whole idea seemed far-fetched from the drop, so this isn't surprising. Its good news though.

[MrMiyagi]

I hope we keep Len. In limited minutes he's shown that he like to hang around the basket on offense and get after the offensive boards. Too often I see Fry, Kieff and Marcus just hanging away from the basket. Plumlee has been good at fighting on the offensive glass, but we need another guy to do the same, and that looks to be Len.

[WeekapaugGroove]

With galo officially being out for the yr I could see Denver going into seller mode. I'd be somewhat interested in chandler at the right price.

How weird is the galo situation? Hurt his knee 9 months ago and they just now realize he needs a new ACL. Odd


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[JDLAW]

It is not weird. There are plenty of people without an ACL, including athletes. Not all of them are reconstructed. Walter Davis tore his ACL and finished his career without one. I do not have an ACL in one of my knees. It all depends on how much stability you get from the remaining ligaments, how tight the joint is how much strength you can contribute with other muscles like the quad.

[King4Day]

With galo officially being out for the yr I could see Denver going into seller mode. I'd be somewhat interested in chandler at the right price.

How weird is the galo situation? Hurt his knee 9 months ago and they just now realize he needs a new ACL. Odd


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Could it be that they had to decide which surgery to do first? If not, how could they miss it? This will last into the preseason probably, if not regular season.

[JDLAW]

Go back and read the article. They knew of its existence and were hoping to avoid reconstructive surgery. As I said in a previous post - not all ACL ruptures have to be reconstructed and there are world class athletes that function fine without an ACL.

[INFORMER-93]

Wilson Chandler just isn't that good anymore; no need to trade for him.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Wilson Chandler just isn't that good anymore; no need to trade for him.

You know what's crazy? chandlers only about a year older than plumlee. I was shocked he was only 26.

I was just playing with the trade machine and there really isn't a deal that makes sense. Chandler and miller for okafors expiring works but I'm not sure Phoenix would/ should be willing to tie up 11 mil on those two next season.


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[Saberestar]

Wilson Chandler just isn't that good anymore; no need to trade for him.

This.