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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#581 » by kurtis48239 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:32 pm

what about going after lowry/derozan,if derozan is a good defender I would really consider this,we would get a good pg in lowry who can score/defend and pass,we also get a scoring sf.We center the trade around moose/cv(expiring)/filler.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#582 » by joeposh » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:37 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:what about going after lowry/derozan,if derozan is a good defender I would really consider this,we would get a good pg in lowry who can score/defend and pass,we also get a scoring sf.We center the trade around moose/cv(expiring)/filler.


But what do you do with Jennings? Lowry's contract is up this summer, and he's going to be looking to get paid. You take him on, you need to get him to sign an extension beforehand and offload Jennings at the same time.

Moose is also too much to give up for that combo, given what you're going to have to do to make room for them. Sub in Jennings for Moose and I'm open to it, but the Raps likely won't go for that.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#583 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:04 pm

Guys....seriously.



Dumars is still running the show. So we're not making any trades unless its Mitchell to some team who will actually use him for their far-distant future 2nd rounder with protection.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#584 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:10 pm

But in case he gets a twinkie and wakes up, Denver might be a realistic option as Gallinari is out for the year now as he just had reconstructive ACL surgery.

Smith/Jerebko/Siva

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Gallinari/Fournier/QMiller
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#585 » by DBC10 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:21 pm

Piston Pete wrote:But in case he gets a twinkie and wakes up, Denver might be a realistic option as Gallinari is out for the year now as he just had reconstructive ACL surgery.

Smith/Jerebko/Siva

for

Gallinari/Fournier/QMiller
Where do I sign up even though it'll never happen.

I was intrigued with Gallinari being possibly available now since they probably need someone to fill that void.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#586 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:24 pm

Or.....


Monroe / Smith / Siva / 2nd rounder

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Gallinari / Fournier / QMiller / 1st rounder
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Post#587 » by BleedGreen1989 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:17 pm

joeposh wrote:New Orleans wants to get rid of Gordon's contract, and should be interested in Monroe given their current banged up front court and lack of offensive firepower around the rim. Given their lack of leverage here (open desire to trade and Gordon's injury history), I'd need a sweetener to take on Gordon. Unfortunately they traded away their 2014 1st to Philly, so we'd have to settle for a 2016 pick (which they'd likely be unwilling to part with) or facilitate a 3-way trade in which we take in someone else's 1st or an additional asset (likely at SF or an additional bench shooter).

Then you flip Stuckey/CV for Jeff Green and possibly Brandon Bass. Celtics get cap relief next year, and help the tank, we get a true SF and some additional depth at the 4. New line-up:

Jennings/Bynum/Billups/Siva
Gordon/KCP/Luigi
Green/Singler/Jerebko
Smith/Bass/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrelson/Smith

Plus a future 1st round pick or additional assest (if we take on another player, waive Siva).

I think it's key that if we take Gordon, we don't give up KCP. We need that youth and depth in case Gordon goes through an extended injury in the future and we want KCP to develop and possibly take the reins once Gordon's contract is up. Ideally we'd like to flip Bynum in one of these trades as well (to free up future cap and thin out our PG herd), but that's not make or break.



I do think Jeff Green would be good fit for you guys, but why in the world would Ainge trade him and Brandon Bass for nothing but cap space? He's smarter than that.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#588 » by MotownMadness » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:22 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Or.....


Monroe / Smith / Siva / 2nd rounder

for

Gallinari / Fournier / QMiller / 1st rounder


Gallo is out for the rest of the year with another surgery. I think he's looking like damaged goods.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#589 » by joeposh » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:30 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Or.....


Monroe / Smith / Siva / 2nd rounder

for

Gallinari / Fournier / QMiller / 1st rounder


Why would you take a "meh" trade and make it worse by throwing in Monroe? Gallo is now a pretty big risk as he has not been able to stay healthy and just ate an entire season. Trading both Smith and Monroe in this package would bet the next few years of this franchise on his recovery, take away our major trade chips and decimate our front court depth.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#590 » by kurtis48239 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:11 pm

joeposh wrote:
kurtis48239 wrote:what about going after lowry/derozan,if derozan is a good defender I would really consider this,we would get a good pg in lowry who can score/defend and pass,we also get a scoring sf.We center the trade around moose/cv(expiring)/filler.


But what do you do with Jennings? Lowry's contract is up this summer, and he's going to be looking to get paid. You take him on, you need to get him to sign an extension beforehand and offload Jennings at the same time.

Moose is also too much to give up for that combo, given what you're going to have to do to make room for them. Sub in Jennings for Moose and I'm open to it, but the Raps likely won't go for that.

we can do moose/cv/jennings and for lowry/derozan/hansbourgh.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#591 » by kurtis48239 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:15 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:
joeposh wrote:New Orleans wants to get rid of Gordon's contract, and should be interested in Monroe given their current banged up front court and lack of offensive firepower around the rim. Given their lack of leverage here (open desire to trade and Gordon's injury history), I'd need a sweetener to take on Gordon. Unfortunately they traded away their 2014 1st to Philly, so we'd have to settle for a 2016 pick (which they'd likely be unwilling to part with) or facilitate a 3-way trade in which we take in someone else's 1st or an additional asset (likely at SF or an additional bench shooter).

Then you flip Stuckey/CV for Jeff Green and possibly Brandon Bass. Celtics get cap relief next year, and help the tank, we get a true SF and some additional depth at the 4. New line-up:

Jennings/Bynum/Billups/Siva
Gordon/KCP/Luigi
Green/Singler/Jerebko
Smith/Bass/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrelson/Smith

Plus a future 1st round pick or additional assest (if we take on another player, waive Siva).

I think it's key that if we take Gordon, we don't give up KCP. We need that youth and depth in case Gordon goes through an extended injury in the future and we want KCP to develop and possibly take the reins once Gordon's contract is up. Ideally we'd like to flip Bynum in one of these trades as well (to free up future cap and thin out our PG herd), but that's not make or break.



I do think Jeff Green would be good fit for you guys, but why in the world would Ainge trade him and Brandon Bass for nothing but cap space? He's smarter than that.

green would be an upgrade over smith at sf,but the thing is hes shooting 38% this season and has been a 34% 3pt shooter his carrer,I wouldnt want to take on a guy who isnt good from 3 and is already 27 yrs old,so its not like he has the potential to get better.We need a sf who is deadly from 3 and can defend..
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#592 » by mercury » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:49 pm

With this club any trade proposals should begin with "can he defend"... stop the bleeding before any after care treatments.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#593 » by Piston Pete » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:40 am

joeposh wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Or.....


Monroe / Smith / Siva / 2nd rounder

for

Gallinari / Fournier / QMiller / 1st rounder


Why would you take a "meh" trade and make it worse by throwing in Monroe? Gallo is now a pretty big risk as he has not been able to stay healthy and just ate an entire season. Trading both Smith and Monroe in this package would bet the next few years of this franchise on his recovery, take away our major trade chips and decimate our front court depth.


Because I think Fournier and Miller are going to be really good players in the league at some point.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#594 » by MotownMadness » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:45 am

Piston Pete wrote:
joeposh wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Or.....


Monroe / Smith / Siva / 2nd rounder

for

Gallinari / Fournier / QMiller / 1st rounder


Why would you take a "meh" trade and make it worse by throwing in Monroe? Gallo is now a pretty big risk as he has not been able to stay healthy and just ate an entire season. Trading both Smith and Monroe in this package would bet the next few years of this franchise on his recovery, take away our major trade chips and decimate our front court depth.


Because I think Fournier and Miller are going to be really good players in the league at some point.


If we trade Monroe we have to make sure we get it right. He's our best trade chip aside from Drummond and if we mess it up it could really hurt us for awhile. I don't think its smart to trade if for players like that who we think might turn out to be something one day.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#595 » by ImHeisenberg » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:52 am

Joe Dumars and twelve future second round picks to Toronto for Masai Ujiri and a coca-cola.
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Post#596 » by sfballa13 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:32 am

MotownMadness wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:
joeposh wrote:
Why would you take a "meh" trade and make it worse by throwing in Monroe? Gallo is now a pretty big risk as he has not been able to stay healthy and just ate an entire season. Trading both Smith and Monroe in this package would bet the next few years of this franchise on his recovery, take away our major trade chips and decimate our front court depth.


Because I think Fournier and Miller are going to be really good players in the league at some point.


If we trade Monroe we have to make sure we get it right. He's our best trade chip aside from Drummond and if we mess it up it could really hurt us for awhile. I don't think its smart to trade if for players like that who we think might turn out to be something one day.


Dumars is going to trade Monroe and get pennies on the dollar and it WILL hurt us for a while.

As a group, all the posters on RealGM should get together and purchase a beater car, drive it to the Palace on a game night, make a huge sign that says FIRE DUMARS and let that bitch burn in the parking lot. Hopefully ESPN and the media outlets pick it up or a video goes viral and Gores out of embarrassment finally fires this piece of ****.
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Post#597 » by Damon_3388 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:03 am

ImHeisenberg wrote:Joe Dumars and twelve future second round picks to Toronto for Masai Ujiri and a coca-cola.


Please show me moves that Ujiri has made that weren't obvious.
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Post#598 » by triplet1984 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:54 am

You know what's obvious?

That Josh Smith doesn't fit on a roster that already has Monroe and Drummond.

That Ben Gordon doesn't fit on a roster with Rip and Stuckey.

That CV is a no defense chucker with no heart.

I'll gladly take a GM who does the obvious common sense move instead of the "positions don't matter" moron in our front office.
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Post#599 » by paQo the BAWSER » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:56 pm

what about this trade?

monroe+stuckey+smith+jennings+all the roster except drummond and kcp+all virgins detroit's women+dumars+cheeks+all our souls x durant
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Post#600 » by Damon_3388 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:22 pm

Da-Met wrote:You know what's obvious?

That Josh Smith doesn't fit on a roster that already has Monroe and Drummond.

That Ben Gordon doesn't fit on a roster with Rip and Stuckey.

That CV is a no defense chucker with no heart.

I'll gladly take a GM who does the obvious common sense move instead of the "positions don't matter" moron in our front office.


Yeah but what I'm saying is, Uriji has developed this reputation as some sort of godly GM on the back of blindly obvious moves. Nothing he's pulled off has really taken any skill or cunning in my estimation.
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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