GT #41: Celtics @ Wizards 7 PM CSN - "Over .500?"

[hands11]

Hahahaha the "blame Randy Whitman" crowd coming out.

When will you nerds accept the fact that the players suck too? Ariza is garbage and should be traded now. Gortat gets bullied inside. Wall has no jumper. Beal is mediocre. The bench consists of a bunch of d-league bums.

How is it Whitman's fault that the roster blows?

I'd say our players are way better than Boston's, wouldn't you?

We have two chances to win the game and both times the play is to give it to Nene at the 3 point line. Just LOL.

We should have won. But...

Sully is really good.
Jeff Green is good as well.

Both those players can generate their own shots. Sully mostly in the post but he has range to the 3 line. And Jeff Green can do what he just did.

That team isn't without any talent. Add Humphries and Bass.

Now I wouldn't pay Humphries what he is making, but I would take Sully, Bass or Humphries on my team for the right price.

Wall had a triple double but he played like ass. 9-29 shooting ? 6 turnovers and several of them were WTF types. Sure he scored 28 but he missed all those early FTA. Pressey scored 20 pts on 7-10 shooting.

The Wizards have no SF like Green and they could really use a player like Sully. Which while not as good would be Kevin who played pretty well in 7 minutes, but Randy sucks so he never got back in the game. Nor did Ves. I thought this was a game custom build for Ves. It was up and down and scrappy.

So mostly I blame Randy and Wall for this lose.

[hands11]

Hahahaha the "blame Randy Whitman" crowd coming out.

When will you nerds accept the fact that the players suck too? Ariza is garbage and should be traded now. Gortat gets bullied inside. Wall has no jumper. Beal is mediocre. The bench consists of a bunch of d-league bums.

How is it Whitman's fault that the roster blows?

I'd say our players are way better than Boston's, wouldn't you?

We have two chances to win the game and both times the play is to give it to Nene at the 3 point line. Just LOL.

#randydesignedplays.suck

[hands11]

We don't suck. We also aren't good. Thus the term "mediocre". And I'm not upset at the loss or not being .500. I'm upset that getting to .500 seems like the freaking holy grail for this damn team.

Well when you are rebuilding, getting to and over .500 is the holy grail. Yes, it`s mediocre but that`s where this team is right now, and the quicker we keep things in perspective, the rest of this season will be really enjoyable. It`s all about stepping stones and patience.

Rebuilding? With a capped out team full of veterans? This, my friend, is the product OF rebuilding.

The Wizards are still rebuilding. We talk about it all the time in the trade thread.

Hey, that Celtics rebuilding team cost the same amount the Wizards does and they have 3M less cap room next year and have Wallace on their books at 10M for 2 more years after this one.

The difference is Boston is still tearing down from having a title team with PP and KG. The Wizards are building up from having Gil and gun gate and having a bad short term vision owner for 20 plus years.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

WallWithTheDime wrote:
Not one single Wizards fan on this forum.

Not true. I understand some of the frustrations because this team sometimes needs a shrink with how lethargic and stupid they play (usually there's that one quarter that you look back at and say what lost use the game). Today that quarter was the 1st quarter, while they balloned the the lead in the 2nd quarter, it was the 1st that set the tone. Horrible defense and lethargic play really got the Cs clicking, you could tell from there on out that they were playing confident and with house money, which is a very bad combo.

On the other hand there are some on this board who are negative no matter what. Win they b*tch. Lose they b*tch louder. There hate is so piercing of EG, Ted, and Whit, that they are incapable of making any clear assessments. For example had EG not made the trade for Gortat they would have said something like, "any competent GM would have found us a replace center." But since he did make the trade they say something along the lines of, "what any idiot, he got owned by another GM." Now granted some of there criticism is valid like waiving Brown and Marshall from the Gortat trade, or when Whitman sits wall to long, or maybe that Ted is a little bit cheap. There also the same people that want to blow up the team every year. I'm of the thinking that they like the team not being good so they can whine and hear themselves talk.

I personally like our team. I think we are better than our records shows, and I think we will eventually show that this season and into the future, but until they show consistency I don't have much of an argument. I don't hate EG, I don't necessarily love him but he's had some ups and has had some downs. I think Whitman is a decent coach and would be better with a better staff around him. Again, I don't think he's a premier coach, but I certainly think he's better than EJ and right there with a lot of coaches who will never get credit until they have a really good team (see Terry Stotts). I think this team is a piece or two away from being really good, will that happen, time will tell.

[MikeTheKid]

I forgot when being a part of a forum extensively and making a lot of posts (MOST OF THE POSTS YOU MAKE ARE BASHING WASHINGTON) means you are a true fan. The logic there.

With these new posters coming in talking about nothing but optimism, patience and giving Ernie and Witt extensions Im starting to really think Monumental is hiring ppl to post on the forums.

Why are we bashing and mad, because we haven't been over .500 in 5 years, 3 of our 1st rd picks from the last 4 years get under 7mpg, we have no 1st rd pick in a good draft this year, our GM is an idiot shall I continue??? And I wouldn't call it bashing its frustration because we constantly show flashes of a very good team who could be top 3 in a weak Eastern Conference yet we always fall into a bump in the road. Even Ariza said it earlier in the season its always something with this team.

[tontoz]

The Wizards were healthy, playing a short handed team that has lost 10 straight games on the road. And lost. How do you expect us to react, noob?

[dckingsfan]

Well when you are rebuilding, getting to and over .500 is the holy grail. Yes, it`s mediocre but that`s where this team is right now, and the quicker we keep things in perspective, the rest of this season will be really enjoyable. It`s all about stepping stones and patience.

Rebuilding? With a capped out team full of veterans? This, my friend, is the product OF rebuilding.

The Wizards are still rebuilding. We talk about it all the time in the trade thread.

Hey, that Celtics rebuilding team cost the same amount the Wizards does and they have 3M less cap room next year and have Wallace on their books at 10M for 2 more years after this one.

The difference is Boston is still tearing down from having a title team with PP and KG. The Wizards are building up from having Gil and gun gate and having a bad short term vision owner for 20 plus years.

Question, how many draft picks does Boston have over the next couple of years?

[dckingsfan]

The Wizards were healthy, playing a short handed team that has lost 10 straight games on the road. And lost. We are supposed to be happy about this?

milellie111 jinxed this team by posting in a game thread. If he truly loved this team he wouldn't post in a game thread.

[hands11]

WallWithTheDime wrote:
Not one single Wizards fan on this forum.

Not true. I understand some of the frustrations because this team sometimes needs a shrink with how lethargic and stupid they play (usually there's that one quarter that you look back at and say what lost use the game). Today that quarter was the 1st quarter, while they balloned the the lead in the 2nd quarter, it was the 1st that set the tone. Horrible defense and lethargic play really got the Cs clicking, you could tell from there on out that they were playing confident and with house money, which is a very bad combo.

On the other hand there are some on this board who are negative no matter what. Win they b*tch. Lose they b*tch louder. There hate is so piercing of EG, Ted, and Whit, that they are incapable of making any clear assessments. For example had EG not made the trade for Gortat they would have said something like, "any competent GM would have found us a replace center." But since he did make the trade they say something along the lines of, "what any idiot, he got owned by another GM." Now granted some of there criticism is valid like waiving Brown and Marshall from the Gortat trade, or when Whitman sits wall to long, or maybe that Ted is a little bit cheap. There also the same people that want to blow up the team every year. I'm of the thinking that they like the team not being good so they can whine and hear themselves talk.

I personally like our team. I think we are better than our records shows, and I think we will eventually show that this season and into the future, but until they show consistency I don't have much of an argument. I don't hate EG, I don't necessarily love him but he's had some ups and has had some downs. I think Whitman is a decent coach and would be better with a better staff around him. Again, I don't think he's a premier coach, but I certainly think he's better than EJ and right there with a lot of coaches who will never get credit until they have a really good team (see Terry Stotts). I think this team is a piece or two away from being really good, will that happen, time will tell.

Hopefully they win enough games that we get some more new posters and a more even dialog.

[dckingsfan]

Not one single Wizards fan on this forum.

ok guy with 7 posts.

[WallWithTheDime]

I have an idea then if you want to complain, root for another team, "it's been 5 years since we had .500" well root for another team, why don't you bandwagon the heat or the thunder. They will welcome you with open arms.

[dandridge 10]

I said before that the Wizards fans are not that loud during games because they don't trust this team and don't want to get emotionally invested just to get let down. Tonight is a perfect example of why they feel that way. With an opportunity to go above .500 and playing a bad team that just played last night, got in D.C. at 4:00 in the morning, and were missing Rondo and Avery Bradley, the Wizards came out sleepwalking during the first half. They gave the Celtics confidence, which they rode to the win. The Wizards deserved to lose tonight. I would feel better if I thought they would learn from this loss, but based on their history, I know they won't. Unfortunately, this is your 2013-2014 Wizard...."we strive for mediocrity and no more."

[miller31time]

I said before that the Wizards fans are not that loud during games because they don't trust this team and don't want to get emotionally invested just to get let down. Tonight is a perfect example of why they feel that way. With an opportunity to go above .500 and playing a bad team that just played last night, got in D.C. at 4:00 in the morning, and were missing Rondo and Avery Bradley, the Wizards came out sleepwalking during the first half. They gave the Celtics confidence, which they rode to the win. The Wizards deserved to lose tonight. I would feel better if I thought they would learn from this loss, but based on their history, I know they won't. Unfortunately, this is your 2013-2014 Wizard...."we strive for mediocrity and no more."

You better watch out, veteran 9-year-poster dandridge. Keep that negative tone up and some new guy who has been here for 20 minutes will tell you you're not a real fan.

[dandridge 10]

I have an idea then if you want to complain, root for another team, "it's been 5 years since we had .500" well root for another team, why don't you bandwagon the heat or the thunder. They will welcome you with open arms.

I appreciate your all peaches and cream post, but I think the Wizards fans on this board have a right to be disappointed when the Wiz lay an egg after having an opportunity to go above .500 at home, against a bad team, who played last night, got in early this morning, and were missing 2 of their starters.

[MikeTheKid]

I have an idea then if you want to complain, root for another team, "it's been 5 years since we had .500" well root for another team, why don't you bandwagon the heat or the thunder. They will welcome you with open arms.

You gotta be a child or a teenager or something, dont you think if we were bandwagon fans we wouldn't be here posting in the Wiz forum? Its cause were true fans of the Wiz, we follow the team through thick and thin and obviously if you were a true fan of the Wiz you would know there's not too much to cheer about but thats why we still do. Me and my dad would ride bikes to old Bullets games at the US Air Arena because I lived 5 mins from there and if Im not a true fan why was a season ticket holder at 24 (i gave them up because I refused to keep season tickets as long as Ernie stays) and my dad still holds season tickets (Hes Crazy). Every forum on this site has its grouchy fans and posters (GO SEE THE KNICKS BOARD) no matter if there good or bad its called being a ****** fan. This ain't Mary Poppins or The Sound of Music everyone's not gonna be skipping around singing Ted and Ernie's praises cause they suck as a FO but we keep calm and carry on cause were fans.

Do you even know anything about US Air Arena??? Do you even know who Michael Adams was???

[MikeTheKid]

I have an idea then if you want to complain, root for another team, "it's been 5 years since we had .500" well root for another team, why don't you bandwagon the heat or the thunder. They will welcome you with open arms.

I appreciate your all peaches and cream post, but I think the Wizards fans on this board have a right to be disappointed when the Wiz lay an egg after having an opportunity to go above .500 at home, against a bad team, who played last night, got in early this morning, and were missing 2 of their starters.

Im just irritated that a kid who comes in for only 3 mins says were not true fans cause were angry and not kissing the team's kisser after a loss. Ive been posting only 2 yrs (Creeping for 5) and I won't disrespect the OG posters on the forum like that

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

By the way. Wall with the least impressive triple double of all time?

He looked a lot like the rookie John Wall. A lot of effort, trying to lift up a lethargic team. Off balance on his jumpers and a lot of wtf turnovers and just sloppy ball handling.

I'll give the guy a pass, though. In general his overall floor game has been great.

Btw: wtf got into Jeff (kobejordanhavlicek) Green tonight?

[80sballboy]

Hmmm. I don't think Witt is a very good coach, but these guys are f-ing professionals. To blame Witt for the way these guys come out in these type of situations is laughable. Beal just said we came out with no energy, no focus. Witt is not Mark Turgeon, who is responsible to motivate his young team to play 35 games. These guys are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game that they love. I know it's not easy, but you are AT HOME! They come out to play the Heat because of a full house and LeBron but they can't get up for a team with no Rondo and Bradley. WTF. They'll always be mediocre until they grow the f-up and it starts with John Wall not getting abused by some D-League scrub who wasn't that great at Missouri. Jeff Green is good but come on. Martell Webster let 55-year old Gerald Wallace drive right around him in the most important part of the game.

I thought Nene was a vocal leader but I guess not by example. Nobody is on this average-at-best team.

[Kanyewest]

Well Boston hasn't been playing that badly. They played Miami close and that was with Rondo going 0-8 last night and LeBron getting a lot of calls down the stretch. In the short term, they might be better without Rondo until he can rehabilitate back to 100%.

That being said I don't think their success is sustainable- Jeff Green isn't going to shoot 50% from 3 and Sullinger is going to have a tough time making those jumpers over 7 footers. Tonight wasn't the Wizards night.

I only caught the end of the game. That sequence where Wall was blocked twice in a row in the fast break was deflating. Not sure why Nene got those looks- the defense was giving him that shot and sometimes their a reason why the defense give it to you.

Otherwise the Wizards played reasonably well from what I saw. They can't afford to dig themselves into deep holes like that.

[dandridge 10]

I have an idea then if you want to complain, root for another team, "it's been 5 years since we had .500" well root for another team, why don't you bandwagon the heat or the thunder. They will welcome you with open arms.

I appreciate your all peaches and cream post, but I think the Wizards fans on this board have a right to be disappointed when the Wiz lay an egg after having an opportunity to go above .500 at home, against a bad team, who played last night, got in early this morning, and were missing 2 of their starters.

Im just irritated that a kid who comes in for only 3 mins says were not true fans cause were angry and not kissing the team's kisser after a loss. Ive been posting only 2 yrs (Creeping for 5) and I won't disrespect the OG posters on the forum like that

Meh, as you said, he's probably some kid that just started watching the Wiz since John Wall was drafted and he's just happy to see the Wizards competitive. Like I said, more power to him if he's satisfied with how the Wiz are playing. However, he came to the wrong place if he is looking for others that will be content with mediocrity. Most posters on this board have endured many years of pain with this team. They deserve to want more than mediocrity and have earned the right to complain when the Wizards lose to teams they shouldn't lose to. If he can't understand that or don't want to hear negativity, he might want to look elsewhere to post or start his own "Wizards are Awesome" Forum somewhere else.