Moses Malone vs Karl Malone

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Who's higher on your all-time list?

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Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#1 » by Quotatious » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:38 pm

I think this should make for even an even better debate than Moses vs KG.

Who would you take? For those of you who keep all-time lists - who do you have higher? And for those who don't (like fpliii :wink: ) - who do you think was a better/more impactful player?
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#2 » by Drummer Boy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:12 pm

Well, considering that Karl's better than Hakeem, and people here would take Akeem w/o thinking twice, this makes this question all the more easier for me. Give me the Mailman
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#3 » by Laimbeer » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:29 pm

Like with KG comparison, Moses needs less around him to win a title.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#4 » by ceiling raiser » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:30 pm

Quotatious wrote:I think this should make for even an even better debate than Moses vs KG.

Who would you take? For those of you who keep all-time lists - who do you have higher? And for those who don't (like fpliii :wink: ) - who do you think was a better/more impactful player?

I think it's tough. Neither was a defensive anchor, which you'd want from a big (though Karl was a great man defender, and Moses seems to have been pretty good in that regard as well, at least in 82-83). Both were great rebounders (Moses being an all-time great on that end, maybe not far off from GOAT level), but I do have some questions about both.

With Karl, how much was due to the system and his PG? I'm actually very, very high on Stockton (maybe close to Nash), so I'm not sure about this.

As for Moses, from what I've watched of him (mostly playoff games from the early 80s), he seems to have some decent skill in the post. However I'm wary about having a guy who relies on putbacks for his scoring as my offensive anchor in the playoffs.

I'm actually not sure who I'd go with here, I'm definitely looking forward to reading this thread, though. :) Maybe I'll learn something about both guys.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#5 » by Drummer Boy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:43 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Like with KG comparison, Moses needs less around him to win a title.


And Rick Barry won a title with even less, do you prefer him over Kevin as well?
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#6 » by Okada » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:47 pm

Drummer Boy wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Like with KG comparison, Moses needs less around him to win a title.


And Rick Barry won a title with even less, do you prefer him over Kevin as well?


No, but that's not totally crazy either. The gap between Barry and KG isn't that big.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#7 » by The Infamous1 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:54 pm

Drummer Boy wrote:Well, considering that Karl's better than Hakeem, and people here would take Akeem w/o thinking twice, this makes this question all the more easier for me. Give me the Mailman


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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#8 » by ceiling raiser » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:58 pm

The Infamous1 wrote:
Drummer Boy wrote:Well, considering that Karl's better than Hakeem, and people here would take Akeem w/o thinking twice, this makes this question all the more easier for me. Give me the Mailman


Lol wut

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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#9 » by Drummer Boy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:01 pm

All the statistical evidence points in Karl's direction, those two rings don't put him over Malone.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#10 » by Drummer Boy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:22 pm

Okada wrote:
Drummer Boy wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Like with KG comparison, Moses needs less around him to win a title.


And Rick Barry won a title with even less, do you prefer him over Kevin as well?


No, but that's not totally crazy either. The gap between Barry and KG isn't that big.


I'm curious as to where you rank Rick all-time
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#11 » by Woodsanity » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:37 pm

Drummer Boy wrote:All the statistical evidence points in Karl's direction, those two rings don't put him over Malone.

Sure if the only thing that mattered was the RS. Karl Malone can be the regular season king all he wants but everyone knows he is a horrible playoff performer. I can't think of a single great player that has a bigger dropoff from RS to PS play than Karl Malone. The mailman does not show up on Sundays.

Anyway I choose Moses. Karl Malone is a great player but he is meh in the playoffs at best for a alleged "ATG". KG also has similar issues as Karl but at least he is a much better defender and his T-Wolves teams were a lot worse than what Karl had.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#12 » by Okada » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:55 pm

Drummer Boy wrote:
Okada wrote:
Drummer Boy wrote:
And Rick Barry won a title with even less, do you prefer him over Kevin as well?


No, but that's not totally crazy either. The gap between Barry and KG isn't that big.


I'm curious as to where you rank Rick all-time


Eh, somewhere between 26 and 30.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#13 » by Drummer Boy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:02 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
Drummer Boy wrote:All the statistical evidence points in Karl's direction, those two rings don't put him over Malone.

Sure if the only thing that mattered was the RS. Karl Malone can be the regular season king all he wants but everyone knows he is a horrible playoff performer. I can't think of a single great player that has a bigger dropoff from RS to PS play than Karl Malone. The mailman does not show up on Sundays.

Anyway I choose Moses. Karl Malone is a great player but he is meh in the playoffs at best for a alleged "ATG". KG also has similar issues as Karl but at least he is a much better defender and his T-Wolves teams were a lot worse than what Karl had.


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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#14 » by Drummer Boy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:03 pm

Okada wrote:
Drummer Boy wrote:
Okada wrote:
No, but that's not totally crazy either. The gap between Barry and KG isn't that big.


I'm curious as to where you rank Rick all-time


Eh, somewhere between 26 and 30.


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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#15 » by JeremyGray35 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:06 pm

I'll take moses. I didn't watch much of them because I was not old enough/born but from what i've seen in their stats and their reps it's moses easily for me.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#16 » by Okada » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:19 pm

Drummer Boy wrote:
Okada wrote:
Drummer Boy wrote:
I'm curious as to where you rank Rick all-time


Eh, somewhere between 26 and 30.


Bill Sharman and Dolph Schayes would like a word with you


Sharman and Schayes are in my late 40s/early 50s.
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Re: Moses Malone vs Karl Malone 

Post#17 » by Drummer Boy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:25 pm

Okada wrote:
Drummer Boy wrote:
Okada wrote:
Eh, somewhere between 26 and 30.


Bill Sharman and Dolph Schayes would like a word with you


Sharman and Schayes are in my late 40s/early 50s.


You're saying as in your list/rankings, okay I can respect that.
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