Detroit offers Drummond for Ross tonight. Do it?

[dagger]

Obviously. Drummond has both the much higher ceiling AND is a more sure thing than Ross.

I think Ross just as much a sure thing - a star two way player in the Eddie Jones mold, which is the type of players that championship squads are built of. I have been saying that since the day he was drafted. So I don't accept the sure thing bit. High ceiling for Drummond, yes, if he can grasp the nuances of team D and add to his offensive game which is somewhat limited. That will come down to work ethic, which Ross certainly has.

[agentzero2010]

Ross was amazing tonight, but he is till too inconsistent and drummond is a rare player.

[Geddy]

Bigs with Drummond's presence are harder to come by than scorers like Ross. I would do it.

Would be even better to have both.

[roundhead0]

As good as Drummond has been, I always worry about the liability of a big man that can't hit his foul shots. You either have to take him out of games at cruch time or let the other team hack him. Neither is a good option.

And despite his blocks, his overall defense has been surprisingly ineffective.

You also now have to worry about moving either Drummond for something else, or JV for something. You're not going to keep both.

[CoreyGallagher]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2014

20 year old, 270 pound Center... 22, about to be 23 year old 6'6 wing.

[TheGoodDoctor]

You gotta love reactionary threads....not really and f*ck yeah; are you out of your mind?!

[onetwothree]

That draft class, Ross was expected to go 15 - 20... Drummond was expected to challenge Davis for 1st early before his injury. He eventually fell on our lap at 8th, but we took Ross.

Ross turned out hella good. Props to BC's scouting staff. Ross has that rare everything, he is going to be a stud in this league, you just watch. Drummond is going to be a stud as well, easily.

Well, everyone has been shaking up these boards with "drummond instead of ross"

Here's my take. It's easy to differentiate between a good management and a great management.

A good management in terms of scouting is finding hidden gems like Ross.

A great management would be taking drummond with that 8th overall pick and buying a pick within the 9 - 14 range which would have guaranteed you T Ross. I mean how expensive would a pick been in that year in that range.

With 5 - 6 teams as potential trade partners, we could have worked ourselves a deal which would have enabled us to get Ross AND Drummond.

Ross is a special player. Im not saying that just because of today's performance. He's shown defensively and offensively why he's special ever since that Rudy Gay Trade as he is getting opportunity.

The reason I say what I'm saying is because it is not fair to Ross to say we could have had Drummond instead of you. We are blaming him for our managerial incompetency. Ross and Drummond both have long ways to go, they are both going to be special, and theres possibilities that Drummond will have a better career than Ross, AND theres possibilities that Ross will have a better career than Drummond. We will have to wait and see.

But AT THAT TIME, Ross was relatively unknown as a top prospect. Drummond was clearly a top prospect. Since we were able to scout Ross, why didn't we take Drummond and buy a pick to take Ross.

I hope our new management does these type of things to push us a step forward.

[Matty]

With Derozan likely out for the next stretch of games, I can't wait to see Ross make you guys eat your words.

[Kevin Willis]

Even in college Ross can take over games. Remember NIT? But no, Drummond is a better player and it would be foolish to not make that trade.

[Rapsalot]

100%

[Mr_NC]

You take that and RUN

[Raps Maniac]

Yeah, we were supposed to trade down for Lowry and a 12th pick from Houston for our 8th pick, but Colangelo decided it would be better to give up the next year's pick for Lowry and take Ross with the 8th pick.

Keep in mind, Ross was almost certain to be there at the 12th pick, he was supposed to be picked in the teens.

[Kabookalu]

Can we ****ing forget about Drummond already.

[Xepa777]

If Pacers fans use the logic that Leonard for George Hill was a good deal for them, I'm invoking that same logic that Ross over Drummond is the right decision for the raptors.

1) Pushes Derozan to the 3.
2) Allows Amir to flourish
3) Builds up Val (instead of potentially demoralizing him with a center battle)

And if Ross just pans out to be a super 3-and-D guy with 60% of Paul George's value, him+Derozan = Paul George+Stephenson.

And the Raptors have one of the deepest benches in the league. One Masai can improve with the years (look at his Denver teams).

YES I JUST WENT THERE!!! NO SHAME IN MY GAME.

[Dr Positivity]

Yes, narrowly. I saw that as someone who'd be trading JV for the highest value possible ASAP if given the choice, so the C position would be opened up.

[CB4Champ]

If Pacers fans use the logic that Leonard for George Hill was a good deal for them, I'm invoking that same logic that Ross over Drummond is the right decision for the raptors.

1) Pushes Derozan to the 3.
2) Allows Amir to flourish
3) Builds up Val (instead of potentially demoralizing him with a center battle)

And if Ross just pans out to be a super 3-and-D guy with 60% of Paul George's value, him+Derozan = Paul George+Stephenson.

And the Raptors have one of the deepest benches in the league. One Masai can improve with the years (look at his Denver teams).

YES I JUST WENT THERE!!! NO SHAME IN MY GAME.

Xepa the Repa. Doing It Doing It and Doing It Well

[dagger]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=drumman01&y1=2014&p2=rosste01&y2=2014

20 year old, 270 pound Center... 22, about to be 23 year old 6'6 wing.

Man this age argument is lame, and tiring.

Every player has a different development curve. Roy Hibbert came into the league at 22, and didn't look like a potential all-star until last season, when he was 25 going on 26. Danny Granger, David West. That Indy team has a number of players who turned pro at 21 or 22, took a few years to develop, and have become star level players during the second half of their 20s.

[CoreyGallagher]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=drumman01&y1=2014&p2=rosste01&y2=2014

20 year old, 270 pound Center... 22, about to be 23 year old 6'6 wing.

Man this age argument is lame, and tiring.

Every player has a different development curve. Roy Hibbert came into the league at 22, and didn't look like a potential all-star until last season, when he was 25 going on 26. Danny Granger, David West. That Indy team has a number of players who turned pro at 21 or 22, took a few years to develop, and have become star level players during the second half of their 20s.

Yeah, except age wasn't my argument...

[dagger]

A better question is the one the team faced with the 2012 coin toss: Ross or Harrison Barnes.

We lost the toss, but no way I trade Ross for Barnes today, and I bet GSW would do that trade in a knat's heartbeat.

[suntzuballin]

lel y u do dis?