Detroit offers Drummond for Ross tonight. Do it?

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http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=drumman01&y1=2014&p2=rosste01&y2=2014

20 year old, 270 pound Center... 22, about to be 23 year old 6'6 wing.

Man this age argument is lame, and tiring.

Every player has a different development curve. Roy Hibbert came into the league at 22, and didn't look like a potential all-star until last season, when he was 25 going on 26. Danny Granger, David West. That Indy team has a number of players who turned pro at 21 or 22, took a few years to develop, and have become star level players during the second half of their 20s.

Yeah, except age wasn't my argument...

It most certainly was, if it wasn't why did you even mention it.

[Bank Shot]

Obviously you do it. Lets not forget that Drummond just dropped 21 and 20 on Anthony Davis.

[CoreyGallagher]

Man this age argument is lame, and tiring.

Every player has a different development curve. Roy Hibbert came into the league at 22, and didn't look like a potential all-star until last season, when he was 25 going on 26. Danny Granger, David West. That Indy team has a number of players who turned pro at 21 or 22, took a few years to develop, and have become star level players during the second half of their 20s.

Yeah, except age wasn't my argument...

It most certainly was, if it wasn't why did you even mention it.

Because one is 20 and one is about to be 23... Lol, it's a fact, if all I mentioned was their ages in relation to their respective values than sure.

[Badatude]

When the game is in the final minutes who would you rather have on the floor? Drummonds ft % is just to bad.
Drummond is a liability to a winning team in tight games.

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Yeah, except age wasn't my argument...

It most certainly was, if it wasn't why did you even mention it.

Because one is 20 and one is about to be 23... Lol, if all I mentioned was their ages in relation to their respective values than sure...

Age under 25 is overrated. it's not even an issue. Once again, players develop at different rates, and often their situation is critical too. Rudy Gay gets traded, it creates an opportunity for Ross. DeMar gets hurt, more opportunity for Ross. As for Drummond, he's 270, but often gassed in the fourth quarter, which one of several reasons the Pistons are one of the worst fourth quarter teams in the league.

[CoreyGallagher]

It most certainly was, if it wasn't why did you even mention it.

Because one is 20 and one is about to be 23... Lol, if all I mentioned was their ages in relation to their respective values than sure...

Age under 25 is overrated. it's not even an issue. Once again, players develop at different rates, and often their situation is critical too. Rudy Gay gets traded, it creates an opportunity for Ross. DeMar gets hurt, more opportunity for Ross. As for Drummond, he's 270, but often gassed in the fourth quarter, which one of several reasons the Pistons are one of the worst fourth quarter teams in the league.

Drummond statistically is already putting up better statistics than Hibbert and is the more efficient player ... At 20 years of age (you mention Hibbert in your last post as being a player that took time to develop). If I could have a player putting up AS caliber numbers from ages 20-25 than those years are not overrated.

[LieCheatSteal]

7 footers who don't trip over themselves while running is very rare. SG/SF who get hot for a night are a dime a dozen. Hell yes.

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Because one is 20 and one is about to be 23... Lol, if all I mentioned was their ages in relation to their respective values than sure...

Age under 25 is overrated. it's not even an issue. Once again, players develop at different rates, and often their situation is critical too. Rudy Gay gets traded, it creates an opportunity for Ross. DeMar gets hurt, more opportunity for Ross. As for Drummond, he's 270, but often gassed in the fourth quarter, which one of several reasons the Pistons are one of the worst fourth quarter teams in the league.

Drummond statistically is already putting up better statistics than Hibbert and is the more efficient player (you mention Hibbert in your last post as taking time to develop) ... At 20 years of age. If I could have a player putting up AS caliber numbers from ages 20 to 25 than the age under 25 is not overrated.

It's a joke putting Drummond in the same category as Hibbert. Hibbert actually understands how to play the game, and play in his coach's system, against the league's very best teams and individual talents. Right now, Drummond is about numbers, and a couple of great attributes, but he's no way close to being an impact player. He could have a great future, but he's not close to leading Detroit anywhere.

[BO55]

**** our fans... Lol

[gamer1035]

I do it in an instant without even thinking.


However I like Ross, IMO has the most upside on the team, even higher than JV

[Mediocrity]

I would not. I feel like the hype around Drummond is getting out of hand. I realize that he is averaging 12 and 12 as a 20/21 year old, but he is not making any impact on the defensive side of things. He gets hyped because he is uber athletic and has supreme size, however right now he is Reggie Evans with better finishing ability. I am not saying that I wouldn't want him (I would) but I believe Ross's potential is much higher than we originally believed. He plays on both sides of the ball, and has the potential to be elite in both areas. Why don't we wait 5 years and bring this up then?

[CoreyGallagher]

Age under 25 is overrated. it's not even an issue. Once again, players develop at different rates, and often their situation is critical too. Rudy Gay gets traded, it creates an opportunity for Ross. DeMar gets hurt, more opportunity for Ross. As for Drummond, he's 270, but often gassed in the fourth quarter, which one of several reasons the Pistons are one of the worst fourth quarter teams in the league.

Drummond statistically is already putting up better statistics than Hibbert and is the more efficient player (you mention Hibbert in your last post as taking time to develop) ... At 20 years of age. If I could have a player putting up AS caliber numbers from ages 20 to 25 than the age under 25 is not overrated.

It's a joke putting Drummond in the same category as Hibbert. Hibbert actually understands how to play the game, and play in his coach's system, against the league's very best teams and individual talents. Right now, Drummond is about numbers, and a couple of great attributes, but he's no way close to being an impact player. He could have a great future, but he's not close to leading Detroit anywhere.

Not going to compare the two, vastly different situations, Drummond is putting up far superior stats on a dysfunctional team that is underachieving (playing with Brandon Jennings and 2 PF's in the starting line up) while Hibbert is the defensive anchor on a contender playing alongside what is among the league's best individual talents in George and best supporting casts. Pacers are a competent organization, the Pistons are not. My point is you can at least gauge Drummond's value, he's putting up respectable raw statistics while being very efficient at the age of 20 and he still has vast amounts of potential.

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7 footers who don't trip over themselves while running is very rare. SG/SF who get hot for a night are a dime a dozen. Hell yes.

Four players have scored 50 pts this season. Ross is the youngest. It's pretty rare for a 22 year old to score 51 and not have a really nice career ahead of him. Carter was the same age when he scored 51.

[Volcano]

Anyone who says no is a dummy.

Detroit is forced to trade Drummond for Ross straight up. If you love Ross, trade Drummond back for Ross + pick.

Drummond clearly has high value in the league right now. If you don't like him or don't think he'll pan out, just package him in a trade. You're guaranteed to get a good deal as long as you don't wait for him to plateau.

[kingr]

I trade Ross in a second for Drummond. Some people forget Drummond is putting up these numbers while being completely raw offensively.

[RealRapsFan]

48 pts .625% from the floor, 6-11 from 3, 9 rebs, 3 assist

no way you trade that!!

... Charlie V rookie season.


You trade Ross for Drummond in a heartbeat.

[MotownMadness]

I would personally go to Dumars house and kick his nuts into his head if he did this. Ross looks good Raptor fans but seriously c'mon.

[LieCheatSteal]

7 footers who don't trip over themselves while running is very rare. SG/SF who get hot for a night are a dime a dozen. Hell yes.

Four players have scored 50 pts this season. Ross is the youngest. It's pretty rare for a 22 year old to score 51 and not have a really nice career ahead of him. Carter was the same age when he scored 51.

One thing lost about Ross' big day is that DeRozan and Patterson both were out of the game. This allowed Ross to shoot. If they, especially DeRozan, were still in the game, I doubt Ross would have became the number 1 option on offense.

[B-Ball Freak]

In a heartbeat

[IvanIV]

Apparently this was the first time in NBA history that a player averaging fewer than 10 PPG scored more than 50.