2014 Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread

[INFORMER-93]

Beetlejuice, gaspar just isn't a fan of Thaddeus Young. Don't worry about it.

Thanks man,

you should school me however about Spencer Hawes and his defensive fit with this team . All that info that i "have ate from forums and media" suggest me otherwise.

Ha, I never said anything about Hawes' defense. He's not exactly Roy Hibbert. He can get pushed around and will find himself in the wrong position from time to time. He can offer minimal rim protection, but not much else.

His play has also been declining as the season goes on, and he's currently struggling with his shot.

I would have interest because of his ability to spread the floor from the 5 spot, his passing ability, and the fact that he's on an expiring contract.

[TOO]

I'd prefer a starting frontcourt of Hawes/Kieff to the Plumlee/Frye we're using now.

[gaspar]

I like Thad, I just don't think he's an upgrade for this team. IMO Markieff's toughness, rebounding, post offense and defense and Marcus' 3-point shooting are more valuable for the Suns than whatever Thad brings to the table. Combine that with his hefty contract and I don't see a reason why we should try to trade for him.

[DirtyDez]

Morris brothers shouldnt be broken up, i hope they arent shopped during deadline

Nobody wants Marcus so that won't be a problem. It might get shaky when they're both up for new contracts but that's a ways off. Kieff will get some love from other suitors.

[Ring_Wanted]

I'd prefer a starting frontcourt of Hawes/Kieff to the Plumlee/Frye we're using now.

I wouldn't. At the very least Plumlee-Frye is a way better defensive combo than Kieff/Hawes, and the later doesn't inspire me any kind of confidence about offensive consistency to replace the other two. They are not better on the boards either. I wouldn't have a problem if Miles/Frye were made bench players, but you need a real upgrade so it makes sense, and I think it's safe to say that Hawes/Kieff is not it.

[Ring_Wanted]

As for going after Hawes, right now I wouldn't trade more than a second rounder for him, as he is an UFA, and I think he will receive interest from a number of teams since he plays a very well defined role. This would put any acquiring team in a tough position unless you were totally convinced to bring him back, but the Suns wouldn't/shoulnd't be said team, at least while Frye is here, even if they are not clones game wise.

Now, if Frye opted out (which I think he should for his own sake), demanded something absurd and Hawes was still available by the time this would be issued (after more pressing matters, I'd guess), I'd consider him. Ceteris paribus I'd keep Frye, tho.

[Ring_Wanted]

Morris brothers shouldnt be broken up, i hope they arent shopped during deadline

Nobody wants Marcus so that won't be a problem. It might get shaky when they're both up for new contracts but that's a ways off. Kieff will get some love from other suitors.

Their contracts can be a thing as soon as next summer, when they could be inked to extensions. The only thing that would keep me from actively shopping them right now would be that maybe they can be signed to a package discount. No matter what, I think it would be wise to gauge their value and see if they can get us one more consolidated piece, especially considering that they could be replaced via draft.

[charara13]

Frye shouldnt opt out i mean he still has plenty to offer for this team and hes proving that this year. He can soread the floor out with his three point shooting. And yes i agree no one would probably want Marcus as much as Markieff. Markieff against CLE showed that he can be dominant in the paint, shooting from mid range and rebounding. Hes a very talented guy and he can bring alot to the table

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[Puff]

I read on the Bleacher report that we could be a destination for Anthony Bennett if Cleveland decides to dump him now or in the off season.

I noticed that he was pretty chummy with our team after the game and said something to Hornacek after the game as well.

Did we work him out this past summer? Maybe he liked what he saw in Phoenix and hates Cleveland and the coaching staff.

I would definitely consider giving up the Indiana pick for him. I think all we be stuck with him if he continues to suck would be through next season.

I don't think Mike Brown is going to make him any better.

Link? I still think most of Bleacher Report is made up BS but they have added some reputable writers.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1933 ... tes/page/8

[Frank Lee]

Now, if Frye opted out (which I think he should for his own sake), demanded something absurd......

Cant see Frye leaving the valley... I think he's a lifer. He'd opt out and re-sign on the request of McDo and Sarver if the cap space was needed. I'd think we get nothing but cooperation from CFrye.

[charara13]

Couldnt have said it better [THUMBS UP SIGN]

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[charara13]

Do you think Eric Bledsoe Deserves A Max Contract Deal Despite GM's Worrying About His Injury In Future? Ryan McDonough Said He Is Willing To Match Any "Reasonable" Offer For Eric Bledsoe. Is This The Right Move? Should Other GMS Take A Gamble As Well

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[Ring_Wanted]

I think Kieff's game is beautiful when he hits his shots, but I'd look to get a better athlete as long as the degree of skill was the same or better. If no major tweak was needed, I'd say just degree, not type of skill. Kieff has a nice midrange game and can complement it post moves and outside shots, but not always/against everybody, precisely because he is not a great athlete.

His brother has two moves: one on one from the elbow which usually means a contested two (which he has been hitting at a fair rate, and no less contested than Kieff's tunarounds) and 3pt shot (which is not falling extremelly well but is not a trouble if he takes them when they are there).

Green's case is different because he is a microwave. He is a 6'8 athlete freak Eddie House, and when he is hot he looks like Tracy McGrady. A use at your own peril player who I would like to keep if possible but who I believe can be replaced without sweating much, or whose role could be skipped altogether if it was fitting. Also there is this next draft where we have three 1stRs and a second rounder.

Strictly from a strategy standpoint, I believe it would be wise to entertain using those three in a trade this season or at draft night. If the right deal could be made, I'd only be concerned about the chemistry factor if it is during the season. It's been alluded to the possibility of getting them cheap enough, but who knows what's actually inside those heads. If they are not traded, we'll have the first chance to find out next summer.

It doesn't take away how much I've been enjoying this season, tho.

[charara13]

I think Kieff's game is beautiful when he hits his shots, but I'd look to get a better athlete as long as the degree of skill was the same or better. If no major tweak was needed, I'd say just degree, not type of skill. Kieff has a nice midrange game and can complement it post moves and outside shots, but not always/against everybody, precisely because he is not a great athlete.

His brother has two moves: one on one from the elbow which usually means a contested two (which he has been hitting at a fair rate, and no less contested than Kieff's tunarounds) and 3pt shot (which is not falling extremelly well but is not a trouble if he takes them when they are there).

Green's case is different because he is a microwave. He is a 6'8 athlete freak Eddie House, and when he is hot he looks like Tracy McGrady. A use at your own peril player who I would like to keep if possible but who I believe can be replaced without sweating much, or whose role could be skipped altogether if it was fitting. Also there is this next draft where we have three 1stRs and a second rounder.

Strictly from a strategy standpoint, I believe it would be wise to entertain using those three in a trade this season or at draft night. If the right deal could be made, I'd only be concerned about the chemistry factor if it is during the season. It's been alluded to the possibility of getting them cheap enough, but who knows what's actually inside those heads. If they are not traded, we'll have the first chance to find out next summer.

It doesn't take away how much I've been enjoying this season, tho.

Gerald Green is one of my favorite players on the Suns right now. Not only become of his highlight dunks but because of his shooting from Three Point Range and Mid Range. Once he goes hot he never stops. Good comparision to Eddie House. Green has really never had a good opportunity on any NBA team to prove himself. Phoenix knows how to use him best. Even when hes colder than ice Coach Hornacek tells him to jack up shots. Hes been really huge for them both as a starter and a bench player.

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[Ring_Wanted]

The thing would be keeping him under control. The problem is that without Bledsoe, the remaining talent on the wings is not enough to keep him under X minutes by default, unless hot. And we are talking about a fairly limited player, whose handles are worse than any other wing on our team with the exception of Archie. Probably even worse than PJ, I'd say. Wile not being relevant anywhere else.

Anyway, he's been a contributor for sure, and is really entertaining.

[Sunsdeuce]

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Pretty excited by the 2015 pick, I must say.

Steve Kyler: From what I have heard the Lakers have talked to everyone in the league about almost everything they have trying to extract youth or draft assets – there just is not a lot of desire or value surrounding what the Lakers have. Basketball Insiders - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.5IrZBaVU.dpuf

[kingstyyyle]

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Pretty excited by the 2015 pick, I must say.

Steve Kyler: From what I have heard the Lakers have talked to everyone in the league about almost everything they have trying to extract youth or draft assets – there just is not a lot of desire or value surrounding what the Lakers have. Basketball Insiders - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.5IrZBaVU.dpuf

I didn't see this coming when they got Howard. I was buying a car the day they got Howard and the guy I was buying it from had a Laker tattoo and right before I signed for the car he gloated about the trade and I seriously almost backed out of the deal. I'd love to see his face now! Ha ha

[Sunsdeuce]

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Pretty excited by the 2015 pick, I must say.

Steve Kyler: From what I have heard the Lakers have talked to everyone in the league about almost everything they have trying to extract youth or draft assets – there just is not a lot of desire or value surrounding what the Lakers have. Basketball Insiders - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.5IrZBaVU.dpuf

I didn't see this coming when they got Howard. I was buying a car the day they got Howard and the guy I was buying it from had a Laker tattoo and right before I signed for the car he gloated about the trade and I seriously almost backed out of the deal. I'd love to see his face now! Ha ha

Pau is really (sorta) the only piece that has value. But he is only worth a second rounder or emekia straight up trade because he is basically a a few months rental. Nobody is trading "assets" for him. I guess I would trade emekia and throw in a 2018 second round pick. But that's about it.

[Qwigglez]

Now, if Frye opted out (which I think he should for his own sake), demanded something absurd......

Cant see Frye leaving the valley... I think he's a lifer. He'd opt out and re-sign on the request of McDo and Sarver if the cap space was needed. I'd think we get nothing but cooperation from CFrye.

Only one team I could see Frye going to besides the Suns, and that's the Blazers. I heard he still has a house there, his family stays there during the summer too. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't really have a link, but I thought I recall hearing something of that sort.
But yeah, I'd love to keep Frye for a while. Like I've said before, his game isn't going to change much even if he is 35. I hope he stays with us his entire career, I'm a big supporter of Frye.

[In2ition]

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Pretty excited by the 2015 pick, I must say.

Steve Kyler: From what I have heard the Lakers have talked to everyone in the league about almost everything they have trying to extract youth or draft assets – there just is not a lot of desire or value surrounding what the Lakers have. Basketball Insiders - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.5IrZBaVU.dpuf

I didn't see this coming when they got Howard. I was buying a car the day they got Howard and the guy I was buying it from had a Laker tattoo and right before I signed for the car he gloated about the trade and I seriously almost backed out of the deal. I'd love to see his face now! Ha ha

LOL, that is a funny story. I agree, didn't see this coming, and I'm not shoveling dirt on the Lakers just yet. They are like Jason, keep coming back when you think they are in for a prolonged down period. But, right now, I'm not really surprised. They don't have much as far as what anyone would want. That contract that Kobe signed is going to be an anchor around their neck in the new super luxury cap. Unless they can convince a superstar to come there and start to find some great players in the draft, it's going to be a slow rebuilding for the Lakers. I think first thing on most players minds is money, next is "being the man", third is on winning or seeing that they have a chance to win, fourth is the size of the media, and fifth is ownership and climate. Let's just say that this summer is going to be awfully interesting as far as the Lakers are concerned.