Terrence Ross a lock down defender?

MixxSRC · Post #41 » by **MixxSRC** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:06 am

Do you think he'll shut down Rudy when we play Sac?

BangerBrotha · Post #42 » by **BangerBrotha** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:08 am

Cold Logic wrote:"Terrence Ross is an amazing young talent who we believe can take it to the next level "

I guess this is the type of organic growth that BC was talking about.

BallinOnUHomie · Post #43 » by **BallinOnUHomie** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:09 am

MixxSRC wrote:Do you think he'll shut down Rudy when we play Sac?

cammac · Post #44 » by **cammac** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:21 am

Ross is a work in progress his 3pt shot and defense is ahead of the rest of his game which is growing.
It took DD into his 5th year to be a more complete player and think by his 3rd year Ross will be a more complete player. Those who wish to trade DD are crazy as well they compliment each other add a little more depth at SG and SF that part of the team is good for next 5 years.

Kabookalu · Post #45 » by **Kabookalu** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:25 am

Not likely but I'd hope Ross somehow experiences a growth spurt. With more length with his already crazy lateral quickness, star wing players will absolutely DREAD facing the Raptors.

RxOxP · Post #46 » by **RxOxP** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:44 am

TheGoodDoctor wrote:Seen a glimpse of this last season then he got away from it....happy to see him focused on d again.

Turn him into 3+D guy, trade Doube D to the highest bidder.

Guys like you boggle my mind. Why would you trade a good player just because another one is growing when you can play them both. Like seriously, were you a BC fan? A line up of PG-Kyle, SG-Ross/DeRozan, SF-DeRozan/Ross, PF-Amir/Patterson/Hansbrough, and C-Jonas shows potential for great organic growth; a method Indiana for one shows work.

Boogie! · Post #47 » by **Boogie!** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:45 am

mrdressup wrote:He if can learn to control his tic-tac fouling he's going to be very good.

Ticky tack fouls are arbitrary. There's no way anyone can control ticky tack fouls. It's a matter if the refs wanna call it or not. If Ross gets better offensively and becomes more of a household name, you will see less of these ticky tack fouls on him,

lolwut · Post #48 » by **lolwut** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:52 am

ForeverTFC wrote:Remember the narrative around here regarding his dinosaur arms rendering him useless on defence?

It was hilarious, and of course those guys will never admit it was a ridiculous notion.

yodude · Post #49 » by **yodude** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:02 am

Honestly, I don't think Ross needs to gain too much strength, cause the quickness is what makes him so good on defense.

CB4Champ · Post #50 » by **CB4Champ** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:02 am

Ross is a Great defender BECAUSE of his Talent AND Casey's coaching.

The more games I watch, The more I am falling in Love with Casey.

True story.

Casey has grown Ross with Tough but fun and caring teachings. You see that Ross is getting better EVERY game and that he has only touched the surface of his potential. Coach Casey BETTER get re-signed the team respects him and players like patterson who did not excel on other teams come here and ball.

Nuff said.

Purdydrup · Post #51 » by **Purdydrup** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:21 am

["TheGoodDoctor"]Seen a glimpse of this last season then he got away from it....happy to see him focused on d again.

Turn him into 3+D guy, trade Doube D to the highest bidder.

Yes we should trade the only guy on our team other than Lowry who consistently gets in the lane. Not to mention commands double teams which creates open looks for shooters like Ross. You know what would be a better idea? Keep both and let them grow together. They are both young and there are plenty of minutes to go around at the 2/3

AfricanSensation · Post #52 » by **AfricanSensation** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:36 am

Right now it's working, but Ross seems like the perfect 3 and D shooting guard and the only players giving Ross trouble are the much bigger SFs, so that's why you need to assess the talent and consider that maybe at one point one of them will have to be moved. Plus Val (and even Amir) seems way more involved with Demar out.

On the other hand, we are not getting Wiggins any time soon and after the failed Rudy Gay experiment, we might as well continue with the Demar-Ross duo.

RedX · Post #53 » by **RedX** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:15 pm

He definitely is. It's almost unbelievable to watch, sometimes it feels like he's toying w a defender just to block him. Insanely good d.

CoachD · Post #54 » by **CoachD** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:42 pm

AfricanSensation wrote:Right now it's working, but Ross seems like the perfect 3 and D shooting guard and the only players giving Ross trouble are the much bigger SFs, so that's why you need to assess the talent and consider that maybe at one point one of them will have to be moved. Plus Val (and even Amir) seems way more involved with Demar out.

On the other hand, we are not getting Wiggins any time soon and after the failed Rudy Gay experiment, we might as well continue with the Demar-Ross duo.

How many starting SFs don't struggle with bigger checks? Unless you're LeBron there is another wing bigger and stronger than you... especially in this era of small ball.

Courtside · Post #55 » by **Courtside** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:57 pm

Let me first make very clear that I am NOT comparing him to Kobe as a player or his potential.

But when I watch Ross play, you could put a #8 jersey on Terrence and almost be fooled into thinking it's Bryant out there. From a distance, the way they move around the court in terms of motor skills, lateral speed, defensive response and even the way they jump to get off their shots - they're eerily similar.

If we're evaluating Ross from a defensive standpoint - as per the thread - then having Kobe-like quicks and athleticism is certainly going to work in your favor. Kobe can't really guard Lebron or Durant either - the size/length difference is too much to overcome - though he can certainly make them work harder than most.

He has a looong way to go as a ball handler to even be in the same breath on offense, but the shooting stroke is really good. I remember on the night of the draft how even some guys that were terribly disappointed with this pick, could watch the draft highlight clips and still comment on how nice his shot looked. It's something to build on.

Post #56 » by **Patman** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:49 pm

RxOxP wrote:
TheGoodDoctor wrote:Seen a glimpse of this last season then he got away from it....happy to see him focused on d again.

Turn him into 3+D guy, trade Doube D to the highest bidder.

Guys like you boggle my mind. Why would you trade a good player just because another one is growing when you can play them both. Like seriously, were you a BC fan? A line up of PG-Kyle, SG-Ross/DeRozan, SF-DeRozan/Ross, PF-Amir/Patterson/Hansbrough, and C-Jonas shows potential for great organic growth; a method Indiana for one shows work.

It only "worked" for Indiana because one guy turned into perhaps the best defensive big in the league, and another became a two-way force. I like all of Jonas/DD/Ross, but I don't think any of them project out that way.

Komodo · Post #57 » by **Komodo** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:58 pm

Doesn't show up in the steal column, but Ross is an elite man defender right now. He's made a jump from his rookie to sophomore year just like in college imo.

RxOxP · Post #58 » by **RxOxP** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:31 pm

Patman wrote:
RxOxP wrote:
TheGoodDoctor wrote:Seen a glimpse of this last season then he got away from it....happy to see him focused on d again.

Turn him into 3+D guy, trade Doube D to the highest bidder.

Guys like you boggle my mind. Why would you trade a good player just because another one is growing when you can play them both. Like seriously, were you a BC fan? A line up of PG-Kyle, SG-Ross/DeRozan, SF-DeRozan/Ross, PF-Amir/Patterson/Hansbrough, and C-Jonas shows potential for great organic growth; a method Indiana for one shows work.

It only "worked" for Indiana because one guy turned into perhaps the best defensive big in the league, and another became a two-way force. I like all of Jonas/DD/Ross, but I don't think any of them project out that way.

Okay so thank you for proving my point. It's not expected but could potentially happen.

Post #59 » by **Patman** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:51 pm

RxOxP wrote:
Patman wrote:
RxOxP wrote:Guys like you boggle my mind. Why would you trade a good player just because another one is growing when you can play them both. Like seriously, were you a BC fan? A line up of PG-Kyle, SG-Ross/DeRozan, SF-DeRozan/Ross, PF-Amir/Patterson/Hansbrough, and C-Jonas shows potential for great organic growth; a method Indiana for one shows work.

It only "worked" for Indiana because one guy turned into perhaps the best defensive big in the league, and another became a two-way force. I like all of Jonas/DD/Ross, but I don't think any of them project out that way.

Okay so thank you for proving my point. It's not expected but could potentially happen.

A lot of things are possible, but MU has to identify what's more likely. I'm not for a firesale, but you can't be clutching on to players like Teddy bears. Even though I like our team, I'm not too attached to anybody, and I don't think Masai is either.

DWiz · Post #60 » by **DWiz** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:27 pm

Everytime the ball got loose yesterday, he was there. His deflections and playing passing lanes are elite. His man to man is very good but not yet elite, only because he cant guard the big stocky 3's like LeBron and Melo but its not like guys like Tony can do it either.