Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

It's an absolute joke that Wall isn't in the All-Star game. He should be the STARTER, and he's not even in the lineup. NBA fans are stupid.

What ya' talking about Higga? Have they announced the reserves yet?

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I thought that was tonight at 7.

[Dat2U]

Wall makes it if East picks 3 PGs. Lowry really deserves it, moreso than Wall or Kyrie and Wall honestly deserves it before Kyrie.

[dlts20]

]This Witt-Wall thing is still bothering me. Wall shoots 50% in the 1st half but only takes 4 shots. Only takes 12 for the game despite shooting like 64%

Witt has taken away his aggression. He's still our best player and our own coach is neturalizing him. I could still see him on the Wolves telling Love not to shoot 3's and publicly saying they don't have no 20ppg scorers so they have to do it as a team.

We are still at our best when Wall is attempting to dominated. This idiot just wants Jim to take 12 shots and run his crappy Offense

[dlts20]

Wall makes it if East picks 3 PGs. Lowry really deserves it, moreso than Wall or Kyrie and Wall honestly deserves it before Kyrie.

There is no way on earth Lowry deserves it more than Wall. Raps fans wanted him gone before the Gay trade and was only averaging 16 & 7 just a few games ago while teams didn't fear him nearly as much as Wall

[Dat2U]

Wall makes it if East picks 3 PGs. Lowry really deserves it, moreso than Wall or Kyrie and Wall honestly deserves it before Kyrie.

There is no way on earth Lowry deserves it more than Wall. Raps fans wanted him gone before the Gay trade and was only averaging 16 & 7 just a few games ago while teams didn't fear him nearly as much as Wall

Actually it's the other way around. There's no way on earth Wall deserves it before Lowry. You know PER game numbers never tell the whole story and who cares what Raps fans think. If you look objectively at all the numbers and even take into consideration their roles, Lowry is clearly worthy of being an all-star starter, not just a reserve.

[tontoz]

Kyle Lowry had 33 points and 11 assists in the Toronto Raptors' 98-83 win over the Orlando Magic on Wednesday.

Lowry received "MVP" chants from the Air Canada Centre crowd.

Lowry has a strong All-Star candidacy, but is not certain to be voted in.

“I keep my fingers crossed that the coaches voted him in because he deserves it,” said Dwane Casey. “Right now he’s one of the best point guards in the league.”

Lowry is taking 6 three pointers a game and shooting them at 40%.

[Wizardspride]

Wall makes it if East picks 3 PGs. Lowry really deserves it, moreso than Wall or Kyrie and Wall honestly deserves it before Kyrie.

"Lowry deserves it moreso than Wall?'

How do you figure that?

Wall beats Lowry in basically every category except for FG% and even there the difference isn't huge.

Wall averages more points, assists, rebounds, blocks per game and is a better free throw shooter.

Now I will give Lowry credit for being a much better 3pt shooter and his team having a better record (slightly).

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Wall made it as a reserve.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Wall made it as a reserve.

Has that been announced?

[Dat2U]

Wall makes it if East picks 3 PGs. Lowry really deserves it, moreso than Wall or Kyrie and Wall honestly deserves it before Kyrie.

"Lowry deserves it moreso than Wall?'

How do you figure that?

Wall beats Lowry in basically every category except for FG% and even there the difference isn't huge.

Wall averages more points, assists, rebounds, blocks per game and is a better free throw shooter.

Now I will give Lowry credit for being a much better 3pt shooter and his team having a better record (slightly).

Lowry has been a helluva player for Toronto this year. Arguably the best guard in the East and one of the best in the league.

PER: Wall 19.8 vs. Lowry 20.4
TS%: Wall .521 vs. Lowry .587
eFG%: Wall .459 vs. Lowry .539
AST%: Wall 39.4% vs. Lowry 35.4%
TO%: Wall 15.8% vs. Lowry 13.6%
USG%: Wall 27.5% vs. Lowry 20.6%
ORTg: Wall 106 vs. Lowry 122
WS48: Wall .129 vs. Lowry .216

Lowry uses fewer possessions & Wall is slightly better at creating for teammates but Lowry is far more efficient, turns the ball over less and overall has been more mistake free than Wall whose performance continues to be dragged down with his decision making (long 2s especially - I put more blame on coaching than Wall for this).

[Wizardspride]

Wall makes it if East picks 3 PGs. Lowry really deserves it, moreso than Wall or Kyrie and Wall honestly deserves it before Kyrie.

"Lowry deserves it moreso than Wall?'

How do you figure that?

Wall beats Lowry in basically every category except for FG% and even there the difference isn't huge.

Wall averages more points, assists, rebounds, blocks per game and is a better free throw shooter.

Now I will give Lowry credit for being a much better 3pt shooter and his team having a better record (slightly).

Lowry has been a helluva player for Toronto this year. Arguably the best guard in the East and one of the best in the league.

PER: Wall 19.8 vs. Lowry 20.4
TS%: Wall .521 vs. Lowry .587
eFG%: Wall .459 vs. Lowry .539
AST%: Wall 39.4% vs. Lowry 35.4%
TO%: Wall 15.8% vs. Lowry 13.6%
USG%: Wall 27.5% vs. Lowry 20.6%
ORTg: Wall 106 vs. Lowry 122
WS48: Wall .129 vs. Lowry .216

Lowry uses fewer possessions & Wall is slightly better at creating for teammates but Lowry is far more efficient, turns the ball over less and overall has been more mistake free than Wall whose performance continues to be dragged down with his decision making (long 2s especially - I put more blame on coaching than Wall for this).

Some of those numbers imo, are a function of the teams (and coaches) for which they play but I'll give you credit.

Those are impressive numbers.

But with that being said, I bet you still wouldn't trade Wall for Lowry.

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Wall made it as a reserve.

Has that been announced?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... r-Reserves

[Illmatic21]

Ha, Charles loves us. I've heard him go out of his way to big up Wall and Beal on TNT so many times. Just gave a special shotout to John and said he thinks we'll have the best backcourt in the NBA in 5 years

[MikeTheKid]

Kenny said were mediocre and we cant get over .500, I normally wouldn't care what Kenny says but its true!!!

[Kanyewest]

Kenny said were mediocre and we cant get over .500, I normally wouldn't care what Kenny says but its true!!!

They said that Lance Stephenson deserved to make an all star team and I think they were hinting that they would have had him over Wall. The guy who should have made it was Lowry over Joe Johnson.

[MikeTheKid]

Kenny said were mediocre and we cant get over .500, I normally wouldn't care what Kenny says but its true!!!

They said that Lance Stephenson deserved to make an all star team and I think they were hinting that they would have had him over Wall. The guy who should have made it was Lowry over Joe Johnson.

Yeah thats what I heard too KW and thats why Chuck came out with the Wall love

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Inside the NBA crew sucks anyway.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Wall makes it if East picks 3 PGs. Lowry really deserves it, moreso than Wall or Kyrie and Wall honestly deserves it before Kyrie.

"Lowry deserves it moreso than Wall?'

How do you figure that?

Wall beats Lowry in basically every category except for FG% and even there the difference isn't huge.

Wall averages more points, assists, rebounds, blocks per game and is a better free throw shooter.

Now I will give Lowry credit for being a much better 3pt shooter and his team having a better record (slightly).

Lowry has been a helluva player for Toronto this year. Arguably the best guard in the East and one of the best in the league.

PER: Wall 19.8 vs. Lowry 20.4
TS%: Wall .521 vs. Lowry .587
eFG%: Wall .459 vs. Lowry .539
AST%: Wall 39.4% vs. Lowry 35.4%
TO%: Wall 15.8% vs. Lowry 13.6%
USG%: Wall 27.5% vs. Lowry 20.6%
ORTg: Wall 106 vs. Lowry 122
WS48: Wall .129 vs. Lowry .216

Lowry uses fewer possessions & Wall is slightly better at creating for teammates but Lowry is far more efficient, turns the ball over less and overall has been more mistake free than Wall whose performance continues to be dragged down with his decision making (long 2s especially - I put more blame on coaching than Wall for this).

This makes me feel MUCH better about Lowry routinely outplaying Wall. He's simply a better player. Dat, those are some deserving numbers, I agree. I am glad you posted.

Looking back at the draft years back, IMO Lowry is probably the better player over Randy Foye. Foye was drafted ahead of Brandon Roy. In hindsight, I think the Villanova team with Foye and Lowry had two lottery talents. (Like UNC with Stackhouse and Wallace, eg). Lowry is playing exceptionally well--better than solid NBA veteran Foye.

Sometimes one player on a great NCAA team ends up being better than others drafted ahead of him in the same draft. I recall feeling strongly that Boozer was better than Dunleavy or Jayson Williams.

I have no problems with Lowry over Wall. John is very young and he's on the right track to be a fan favorite and perennial all star years to come.

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The skills competition is boring, but it'd be nice to see what Wall could do in the dunk contest.