Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

[bumby401]

How about a trade for Westbrook?? this is one trade idea i am in love with and it seems to make sense for both sides and honestly i cant poke too many holes in the reasoning..

A Realistic Trade for Russell Westbrook That Would Save the New York Knicks.

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook.

COMMENTARY | Through the first half of the NBA season, much has been made about how the New York Knicks have grossly underachieved.

Entering the campaign with title aspirations, things have clearly not gone as planned as the Knicks would find themselves out of the playoffs if the season ended today. Notwithstanding this, and some terrible performances along the way, the news of the Knicks' demise has been far overblown.

Their struggles are not representative of a systematic breakdown like so many other disappointing teams in the Eastern Conference, such as having a terribly mismatched roster (Detroit Pistons), being a bit too old (Brooklyn Nets) or being a bit too young (Cleveland Cavaliers).

Instead, the Knicks' struggles can be easily fixed by addressing two main issues: an unhealthy frontcourt and inconsistent point-guard play. Both of these issues can be addressed in one fell swoop by acquiring Russell Westbrook from the Oklahoma City Thunder. I am not suggesting either a fantasy trade for New York that Oklahoma City would never agree to or something that would not be possible under the NBA's salary-cap rules.

Rather, there is a realistic trade possibility that would both catapult the Thunder into the driver's seat in the Western Conference and position the Knicks to challenge the Indiana Pacers and Miami Heat in the East: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins and a future second-round draft pick for Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert, Raymond Felton and the right to swap future first-round draft picks

read the rest here.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/realistic-trade-russell-westbrook-save-york-knicks-163000701--nba.html

[Marty McFly]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231731/Kyrie-Irving-Privately-Telling-People-He-Wants-Out-Of-Cleveland

"Kyrie Irving has been telling people privately he wants out," wrote Chad Ford.

Irving becomes eligible for a contract extension this offseason and will presumably receive a max offer from the Cavaliers. Irving could become a restricted free agent in the 2015 offseason meaning he could not leave outright until 2016.

help us kyrie irving, you're our only hope.

[Marty McFly]

How about a trade for Westbrook?? this is one trade idea i am in love with and it seems to make sense for both sides and honestly i cant poke too many holes in the reasoning..

A Realistic Trade for Russell Westbrook That Would Save the New York Knicks.

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook.

COMMENTARY | Through the first half of the NBA season, much has been made about how the New York Knicks have grossly underachieved.

Entering the campaign with title aspirations, things have clearly not gone as planned as the Knicks would find themselves out of the playoffs if the season ended today. Notwithstanding this, and some terrible performances along the way, the news of the Knicks' demise has been far overblown.

Their struggles are not representative of a systematic breakdown like so many other disappointing teams in the Eastern Conference, such as having a terribly mismatched roster (Detroit Pistons), being a bit too old (Brooklyn Nets) or being a bit too young (Cleveland Cavaliers).

Instead, the Knicks' struggles can be easily fixed by addressing two main issues: an unhealthy frontcourt and inconsistent point-guard play. Both of these issues can be addressed in one fell swoop by acquiring Russell Westbrook from the Oklahoma City Thunder. I am not suggesting either a fantasy trade for New York that Oklahoma City would never agree to or something that would not be possible under the NBA's salary-cap rules.

Rather, there is a realistic trade possibility that would both catapult the Thunder into the driver's seat in the Western Conference and position the Knicks to challenge the Indiana Pacers and Miami Heat in the East: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins and a future second-round draft pick for Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert, Raymond Felton and the right to swap future first-round draft picks

read the rest here.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/realistic-trade-russell-westbrook-save-york-knicks-163000701--nba.html

I WOULD DO THAT. westbrook's injury history is a problem, but we know what he is when he's healthy. that's the kinda guy you trade a first round pick for. can't help but feel like



though.

[bumby401]

How about a trade for Westbrook?? this is one trade idea i am in love with and it seems to make sense for both sides and honestly i cant poke too many holes in the reasoning..

A Realistic Trade for Russell Westbrook That Would Save the New York Knicks.

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook.

COMMENTARY | Through the first half of the NBA season, much has been made about how the New York Knicks have grossly underachieved.

Entering the campaign with title aspirations, things have clearly not gone as planned as the Knicks would find themselves out of the playoffs if the season ended today. Notwithstanding this, and some terrible performances along the way, the news of the Knicks' demise has been far overblown.

Their struggles are not representative of a systematic breakdown like so many other disappointing teams in the Eastern Conference, such as having a terribly mismatched roster (Detroit Pistons), being a bit too old (Brooklyn Nets) or being a bit too young (Cleveland Cavaliers).

Instead, the Knicks' struggles can be easily fixed by addressing two main issues: an unhealthy frontcourt and inconsistent point-guard play. Both of these issues can be addressed in one fell swoop by acquiring Russell Westbrook from the Oklahoma City Thunder. I am not suggesting either a fantasy trade for New York that Oklahoma City would never agree to or something that would not be possible under the NBA's salary-cap rules.

Rather, there is a realistic trade possibility that would both catapult the Thunder into the driver's seat in the Western Conference and position the Knicks to challenge the Indiana Pacers and Miami Heat in the East: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins and a future second-round draft pick for Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert, Raymond Felton and the right to swap future first-round draft picks

read the rest here.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/realistic-trade-russell-westbrook-save-york-knicks-163000701--nba.html

I WOULD DO THAT. westbrook's injury history is a problem, but we know what he is when he's healthy. that's the kinda guy you trade a first round pick for. can't help but feel like



though.

yeah more than likely a pipe dream but i actually think this trade would help the thunder more than us even though i think westbrook and melo together with big perk to get rebounds and guard guys like hibbert would put us at no worse than 3rd in the east.

[Buggin Out]

So we doing this trade for Kyrie or what?

Shump/THJR/2018-1st/Tyler?

GET ER DONE MILLS

Preferably before the game starts so we can get the easy W

[TheProfessor]

Trade 1

NY- Lowry
Tor- Felton, MWP, 1st rd Pk Via Phoneix
Pho- Shumpert

Trade 2

NY- Eric Gordan
NO- Bargnani, Jr smith


Chandler
Martin
Anthony
Gordan
Lowry

LOL, hell no from Masai. MU laughs you off the phone and then asks only to speak to Dolan in regards to trades.
The asking price was 2 of THjr, Shump, and a pick, thats before Lowry transformed in Super Lowry. Now it's more likely fields+lowry for THjr, Shump and a pick+felton, mwp and salary filler.

[Mars_Blackmon]

Trade 1

NY- Lowry
Tor- Felton, MWP, 1st rd Pk Via Phoneix
Pho- Shumpert

Trade 2

NY- Eric Gordan
NO- Bargnani, Jr smith


Chandler
Martin
Anthony
Gordan
Lowry

LOL, hell no from Masai. MU laughs you off the phone and then asks only to speak to Dolan in regards to trades.
The asking price was 2 of THjr, Shump, and a pick, thats before Lowry transformed in Super Lowry. Now it's more likely fields+lowry for THjr, Shump and a pick+felton, mwp and salary filler.

Lmao

GTFO

[SuperflyKnick]

Trade 1

NY- Lowry
Tor- Felton, MWP, 1st rd Pk Via Phoneix
Pho- Shumpert

Trade 2

NY- Eric Gordan
NO- Bargnani, Jr smith


Chandler
Martin
Anthony
Gordan
Lowry

LOL, hell no from Masai. MU laughs you off the phone and then asks only to speak to Dolan in regards to trades.
The asking price was 2 of THjr, Shump, and a pick, thats before Lowry transformed in Super Lowry. Now it's more likely fields+lowry for THjr, Shump and a pick+felton, mwp and salary filler.

Then I guess u should keep Mr. Super Lowry and let him walk in the offseason because Idk why u think anyone will give u any assets for a expiring contract and that of a pg who has a history of playing well contract yr and getting fat and lazy until next....

[TheProfessor]

Trade 1

NY- Lowry
Tor- Felton, MWP, 1st rd Pk Via Phoneix
Pho- Shumpert

Trade 2

NY- Eric Gordan
NO- Bargnani, Jr smith


Chandler
Martin
Anthony
Gordan
Lowry

LOL, hell no from Masai. MU laughs you off the phone and then asks only to speak to Dolan in regards to trades.
The asking price was 2 of THjr, Shump, and a pick, thats before Lowry transformed in Super Lowry. Now it's more likely fields+lowry for THjr, Shump and a pick+felton, mwp and salary filler.

Then I guess u should keep Mr. Super Lowry and let him walk in the offseason because Idk why u think anyone will give u any assets for a expiring contract and that of a pg who has a history of playing well contract yr and getting fat and lazy until next....

Rather have that then put up with 3 years Donut boy, for the raps to even take on donut boy would require a pick. Lowry has also expressed a desire to resign with the raptors. But the real argument is we dont want Fat boy, heck you guys dont even want Fat boy. In your trade we would be essentially give up lowry for free.

[Marty McFly]

LOL, hell no from Masai. MU laughs you off the phone and then asks only to speak to Dolan in regards to trades.
The asking price was 2 of THjr, Shump, and a pick, thats before Lowry transformed in Super Lowry. Now it's more likely fields+lowry for THjr, Shump and a pick+felton, mwp and salary filler.

Then I guess u should keep Mr. Super Lowry and let him walk in the offseason because Idk why u think anyone will give u any assets for a expiring contract and that of a pg who has a history of playing well contract yr and getting fat and lazy until next....

Rather have that then put up with 3 years Donut boy, for the raps to even take on donut boy would require a pick. Lowry has also expressed a desire to resign with the raptors. But the real argument is we dont want Fat boy, heck you guys dont even want Fat boy. In your trade we would be essentially give up lowry for free.

[Fat]

Tyson, shump, felton 2018 1st rounder for kyrie, varejo

[Newyorknick94]

Tyson, shump, felton 2018 1st rounder for kyrie, varejo

I like kyrie a lot probably my favorite non knick but I can't help but feel like him coming to ny would be Marbury 2.0

[BossHoggin]

Tyson, shump, felton 2018 1st rounder for kyrie, varejo

lol

[Greenie]

LOL, hell no from Masai. MU laughs you off the phone and then asks only to speak to Dolan in regards to trades.
The asking price was 2 of THjr, Shump, and a pick, thats before Lowry transformed in Super Lowry. Now it's more likely fields+lowry for THjr, Shump and a pick+felton, mwp and salary filler.

Then I guess u should keep Mr. Super Lowry and let him walk in the offseason because Idk why u think anyone will give u any assets for a expiring contract and that of a pg who has a history of playing well contract yr and getting fat and lazy until next....

Rather have that then put up with 3 years Donut boy, for the raps to even take on donut boy would require a pick. Lowry has also expressed a desire to resign with the raptors. But the real argument is we dont want Fat boy, heck you guys dont even want Fat boy. In your trade we would be essentially give up lowry for free.

You truly need to stay on the Raptors board.

[SuperflyKnick]

LOL, hell no from Masai. MU laughs you off the phone and then asks only to speak to Dolan in regards to trades.
The asking price was 2 of THjr, Shump, and a pick, thats before Lowry transformed in Super Lowry. Now it's more likely fields+lowry for THjr, Shump and a pick+felton, mwp and salary filler.

Then I guess u should keep Mr. Super Lowry and let him walk in the offseason because Idk why u think anyone will give u any assets for a expiring contract and that of a pg who has a history of playing well contract yr and getting fat and lazy until next....

Rather have that then put up with 3 years Donut boy, for the raps to even take on donut boy would require a pick. Lowry has also expressed a desire to resign with the raptors. But the real argument is we dont want Fat boy, heck you guys dont even want Fat boy. In your trade we would be essentially give up lowry for free.

U we're getting a pick in my proposed deal dude.... But hey if u think ur gonna get more then that keep super Lowry , that pipe dream of Thjr, shump, 1st rd pk snit happening

[TheProfessor]

Then I guess u should keep Mr. Super Lowry and let him walk in the offseason because Idk why u think anyone will give u any assets for a expiring contract and that of a pg who has a history of playing well contract yr and getting fat and lazy until next....

Rather have that then put up with 3 years Donut boy, for the raps to even take on donut boy would require a pick. Lowry has also expressed a desire to resign with the raptors. But the real argument is we dont want Fat boy, heck you guys dont even want Fat boy. In your trade we would be essentially give up lowry for free.

U we're getting a pick in my proposed deal dude.... But hey if u think ur gonna get more then that keep super Lowry , that pipe dream of Thjr, shump, 1st rd pk snit happening

We get the luxury of getting a first while wasting cap on fat boy, who is sporting a wonderful 10/5 on 40/30/72 in 32minutes of action with bad defence and a TS% 48 and a per of 12.3. While paying 3.8 and 4m for the next 2 years and every exec in the league knows the knicks covet 15/16 capspace. Also with melo rumors looming and without a pick this year, NYK has no leverage at all. Toronto will happily take a second round exit rather than take fat boy and a pick crap pick. But I do concede all 3 assets is a little extreme, a better middle ground is Lowry+Novak for fatboy+salary filler+Thjr and a lotto protected 2018 pick with weakening protection each year or a IND pick via PHX. You take our crap we take yours, get floor spacing and a leader, we get a prospect and a late pick or a future pick.

[SuperflyKnick]

Rather have that then put up with 3 years Donut boy, for the raps to even take on donut boy would require a pick. Lowry has also expressed a desire to resign with the raptors. But the real argument is we dont want Fat boy, heck you guys dont even want Fat boy. In your trade we would be essentially give up lowry for free.

U we're getting a pick in my proposed deal dude.... But hey if u think ur gonna get more then that keep super Lowry , that pipe dream of Thjr, shump, 1st rd pk snit happening

We get the luxury of getting a first while wasting cap on fat boy, who is sporting a wonderful 10/5 on 40/30/72 in 32minutes of action with bad defence and a TS% 48 and a per of 12.3. While paying 3.8 and 4m for the next 2 years and every exec in the league knows the knicks covet 15/16 capspace. Also with melo rumors looming and without a pick this year, NYK has no leverage at all. Toronto will happily take a second round exit rather than take fat boy and a pick crap pick. But I do concede all 3 assets is a little extreme, a better middle ground is Lowry+Novak for fatboy+salary filler+Thjr and a lotto protected 2018 pick with weakening protection each year or a IND pick via PHX. You take our crap we take yours, get floor spacing and a leader, we get a prospect and a late pick or a future pick.

U noe there is a reason Lowry has not been dealt yet ?

1 - there aren't many teams looking for a pg upgrade
2- Lowry is a expiring contract and most people noe he is bolting Toronto
3- The dude has serious attitude issues that teams have been aware of
4- He is the classic case of playing really good during his contract yr and then getting fat and lazy

No way he is going to fetch u pick unless ur willing t take a contract back, so most likely he will finish the season wit
Raptors and bolt in the offseason with nothing to show

[SuperflyKnick]

Rather have that then put up with 3 years Donut boy, for the raps to even take on donut boy would require a pick. Lowry has also expressed a desire to resign with the raptors. But the real argument is we dont want Fat boy, heck you guys dont even want Fat boy. In your trade we would be essentially give up lowry for free.

U we're getting a pick in my proposed deal dude.... But hey if u think ur gonna get more then that keep super Lowry , that pipe dream of Thjr, shump, 1st rd pk snit happening

We get the luxury of getting a first while wasting cap on fat boy, who is sporting a wonderful 10/5 on 40/30/72 in 32minutes of action with bad defence and a TS% 48 and a per of 12.3. While paying 3.8 and 4m for the next 2 years and every exec in the league knows the knicks covet 15/16 capspace. Also with melo rumors looming and without a pick this year, NYK has no leverage at all. Toronto will happily take a second round exit rather than take fat boy and a pick crap pick. But I do concede all 3 assets is a little extreme, a better middle ground is Lowry+Novak for fatboy+salary filler+Thjr and a lotto protected 2018 pick with weakening protection each year or a IND pick via PHX. You take our crap we take yours, get floor spacing and a leader, we get a prospect and a late pick or a future pick.

Also have you seen Tim hardaway play ? Dude is looking and proving t be top 5 rookie this yr.... And ur proposing that we take back a bad contract alng with a 2018 pk for Lowry....

[spikeslovechild]

No way I'm giving THJ in any deal for Lowry. Shump sure. Shump and a protected 1st round pick maybe.

As far as Bargs goes you guys need to stop including him in deals he is seriously injured and has ZERO value. For better or worse (mostly worse) we are stuck with the guy this year.

As far as Irving goes thats one guy I'd give up pretty much anyone on the roster not named Melo to acquire... including THJ, Shump, and a first round pick. The problem is the Cavs can do better. Much better.

Rondo is good player but way to cost prohibitive and I'm not sure he's the ideal fit. Nelson is another guy I've brought up repeatedly. He fits into 2015. He can hit the outside shot and play of the ball with Melo. He won't cost much of anything via a trade. The only real problem I see is that our contracts make it difficult to match up with Orlando because of the extra year on JR and Felton deals.

Whoever we decide to pursue we need an upgrade over Felton if we are ever going to seriously compete in the EAST.

[SuperflyKnick]

I agree with the above poster... The team needs upgrade at the PG position and keeping the 2015 plan... i still propose a shumpert/Felton package to upgrade at the Pg