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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1021 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:51 pm

B_Creamy wrote:Casually looking at some of the Bobcats All-Time best statistical streaks this compares very favorably

Emeka Okafor: 11/08/06 - 11/24/06

21.8 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 3.5 BPG @ 59% TS


Jason Richardson: 12/22/07 - 01/04/08

28.5 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 2.9 APG @ 64% TS


Gerald Wallace: 03/28/07 - 04/08/07

26.8 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 3.6 SPG @ 63% TS


Al Jefferson: 01/14/14 - 01/25/14

26.8 PPG, 12.1 RPG, 2.8 APG @ 59% TS

Just based on that it looks like Jefferson has already put up the 2nd best statistical stretch in Franchise history. Would like to know If I missed any though.


Stephen Jackson: 12/30/09 - 01/12/10

28.6 PPG, 5.7 RPG, 3.3 APG, 1.9 SPG


Gerald Wallace: 12/31/07 - 01/16/08

27.4 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 4.7 APG, 2.3 SPG, 1.3 BPG
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1022 » by fatlever » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:41 pm

when crash got going, he could put together a hot streak with the best of them. he could also put together a cold streak with the worst of them.
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1023 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:18 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BaselineDrE/status/428747578914902016[/tweet]

Give this man credit for playing up to his contract
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Post#1024 » by James Gatz » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:54 pm

Al is ranked 4th in PER in the Eastern Conference. Will not make the All-Star game.
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1025 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:20 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/BaselineDrE/status/428747578914902016[/tweet]

Give this man credit for playing up to his contract


Thank the Good Lord for Stephanie Ready. I honestly think after game interviews with her motivate Big Al to be the player of the game. She's hot.
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1026 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:20 pm

James Gatz wrote:Al is ranked 4th in PER in the Eastern Conference. Will not make the All-Star game.


It makes no sense! :evil:
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Post#1027 » by JDR720 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:27 pm

the coaches should put him in the All-Star game, he is the best player over the last 10 years that hasn't made All-Star
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1028 » by fatlever » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:55 pm

last 9 games:

27.7ppg
12.0rpg
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1029 » by Eoghan » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:14 pm

fatlever wrote:last 9 games:

27.7ppg
12.0rpg
57%FG

Well, that's all you need to know right there.

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Post#1030 » by Snidely FC » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:05 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/BaselineDrE/status/428747578914902016[/tweet]

Give this man credit for playing up to his contract


Thank the Good Lord for Stephanie Ready. I honestly think after game interviews with her motivate Big Al to be the player of the game. She's hot.

LOL it's not Steph he wanted. He said he wouldn't do the interview unless she got him a Sprite! Sprite Player of the Game wants his Sprite! Giant goofball :D
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1031 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:08 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/BaselineDrE/status/428747578914902016[/tweet]

Give this man credit for playing up to his contract


Thank the Good Lord for Stephanie Ready. I honestly think after game interviews with her motivate Big Al to be the player of the game. She's hot.

LOL it's not Steph he wanted. He said he wouldn't do the interview unless she got him a Sprite! Funny moment.


Yeah I know. He teased her about wanting one the past interview and she was like "we can arrange that".

He has interviewed with her more than any Bobcat in history. I think big games give him a chance to flirt with her. I know I'd play my arse off to spend a couple minutes with her.
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Post#1032 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:36 pm

Per Woj tweets doesn't look like Jefferson made the all star team this year either.
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1033 » by thruthefire » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:43 pm

He could still make it as a replacement. Isn't someone out basically every year?
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1034 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:55 pm

thruthefire wrote:He could still make it as a replacement. Isn't someone out basically every year?


Eh I don't see anyone in the east that's injured or will refuse to participate.
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Post#1035 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:25 am

I don't understand for the life of me how Al Jefferson hasn't made a single All-Star appearance in 9 seasons, but a defensive sieve like David Lee could make the All-Star team twice (once in each conference might I add)
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1036 » by fatlever » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:51 am

its time for me to do some fact checking about jefferson's defense this season... perhaps tomorrow. way too many statements being thrown around lately about his defense with little to no proof to back it up.

here are statements i will agree with
1) the bobcats probably rushed the rebuild by signing jefferson
2) we could have made better use of that 13.5 mil (but that assumes players would have signed here)
3) al jefferson is a below average defender and struggles particularly in pick and roll defense and help defense
4) it has yet to be proven that a team can win in the playoffs with jefferson as the main piece on offense and jefferson has yet to prove he can function as a role player

5) jefferson is playing out of his mind right now
6) jefferson has been better on defense than i expected
7) we are able to function at a high level defensively in spite of jefferson's defensive shortcomings



here are statements that i will not agree with, at least not without a ton of proof
1) jefferson is the worst defensive starting big in the league
2) we would be a better team w/out jefferson
3) jefferson gives up more points than he scores
4) we would have the best defense in the league if we had a rim protector, like biz, starting instead of jefferson
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1037 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:29 am

fatlever wrote:
here are statements that i will not agree with, at least not without a ton of proof
1) jefferson is the worst defensive starting big in the league
2) we would be a better team w/out jefferson
3) jefferson gives up more points than he scores
4) we would have the best defense in the league if we had a rim protector, like biz, starting instead of jefferson


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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1038 » by amcoolio » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:55 am

We would be Milwaukee Bucks level bad without Jefferson, I know that.

Its so depressing that almost every other team besides the Lakers has a player that has shown promise or made big leaps. We have Kemba, who is probably peaked and a good roleplayer in MKG. And nothing else.

Jefferson is single handedly taking a crappy team to playoff land.
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1039 » by HornetJail » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:36 am

fatlever wrote:its time for me to do some fact checking about jefferson's defense this season... perhaps tomorrow. way too many statements being thrown around lately about his defense with little to no proof to back it up.

here are statements i will agree with
1) the bobcats probably rushed the rebuild by signing jefferson
2) we could have made better use of that 13.5 mil (but that assumes players would have signed here)
3) al jefferson is a below average defender and struggles particularly in pick and roll defense and help defense
4) it has yet to be proven that a team can win in the playoffs with jefferson as the main piece on offense and jefferson has yet to prove he can function as a role player

5) jefferson is playing out of his mind right now
6) jefferson has been better on defense than i expected
7) we are able to function at a high level defensively in spite of jefferson's defensive shortcomings



here are statements that i will not agree with, at least not without a ton of proof
1) jefferson is the worst defensive starting big in the league
2) we would be a better team w/out jefferson
3) jefferson gives up more points than he scores
4) we would have the best defense in the league if we had a rim protector, like biz, starting instead of jefferson

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Here are a couple things I'd like to point out:

There are plenty of worse defensive big men than Jefferson. He doesn't have the athleticism to keep up all the time, and he doesn't apply himself there, but you can do plenty worse than Al defensively.

We've done a terrific job of masking Jefferson's shortcomings on defense. I wish we could do the same for a few certain players on offense. Clifford has completely transformed this defense, despite the fact the two main pieces we added this summer should have made our defense worse, theoretically.

We would not be a top 3 defensive team with this roster no matter how much MKG or Biz played. Top 5? Sure, but Indiana might be a top 10 defensive team ever and there are some other really good defenses in the NBA as well which we can't top.

Could we really have spent our money any better? Detroit spent $13M on _osh Smith. Al fits this team great, he loved the organization and it appears the team loves him too. We're easily a top 10 defense, even with his defensive struggles. I'd say that's money well-spent.
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Re: The Al Jefferson Thread 

Post#1040 » by fatlever » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:49 am

the "could have spent our money better" statement was with the idea that millsap + a half decent free agent center (or 3pt shooting guard) would have been ideal. however, we have no idea if millsap would have come here. but its hard to build an argument against jefferson based soley on the notion that we could have signed anyone else of significance in free agency.

i will admit i was getting really frustrated with jefferson in december. 17/10 jefferson when MKG was out and our defense was getting smashed is much different than 27/12 jefferson with a respectable defense again. i can totally get behind current jefferson.

i am definitely not jefferson's biggest fan. never have been, never will be. but i will defend him when people start making ridiculous complaints about him while he is having a career month and carrying this team on his back.

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