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RoyalMajesty wrote:Fresh360Waves wrote:RoyalMajesty wrote:The Pacers got David West, Roy Hibbert, and Danny Granger to keep Bynum in check. Pacers are scary if they can get a motivated Bynum. If.
Larry Bird won't put up with that mess either.
Yea that's why I'm kind of shocked Bird would sign Bynum because Bird wouldn't put up with that mess, but if Bynum can't get it together with Vogel, Bird, West, Hibbert, and Granger, this will probably the last chance for Bynum.
dannyh8181 wrote:JazzMatt13 wrote:Am I the only one who think it is normal? Who wouldn't be completely depressed in Clevland...they are like the worst organization, or at least bottom 3!!!
On a team of winners, and leaders, I expect Bynum to get a new spark in life. If I were Hibbert or West, I would pump his blood and get it boiling, because Bynum off bench could turn into a very valuable piece that might just be what you need to win a Ring!
I expect Bynum to make a comeback, with a fire in his belly, and helps Pacers win the Championship this year!
You must be a pacers fan!!
RedX wrote:ybnd wrote:RedX wrote:
He's a top 3 money leech who'se motivation is more busted than his knees.
His knees are not as bad as you think...and a money leech? The NBA is a business its always been said it is....it isnt his fault teams decided to pay him a **** ton of money put a **** cast around him not be able to please him and then have to let him go.....bad managerial decisions....CLE and PHI not really great organizations now are they? The only reason either of the teams have been successful in the past 20 years is because they each had a superstar but couldnt fit a cast around the star to win...they suck....you cant blame bynum for not wanting to put any more miles on his legs and risk injury playing for teams that were going no where
You're right, when those teams signed him it was because he gave them a heads up that he won't actually play, right? Give me a break. If you're asking teams to sign you, than be a man and do your job. We don't get paid to sit on our asses. He signed a new contract in Cleveland, it wasn't a case where he got hurt as he was playing.
So yes, I fully blame him for not 'risking' his knees for teams that are paying him millions for just that. Teams who bet their bottom line on their success by acquiring him - especially philly.
Anyways, hope you're an Indiana fan because you'll see the same act.
Temuhjan wrote:ybnd wrote:andoi_25 wrote:Bynum was a top 3 center
Bynum was the NUMBER ONE now hes top 3
Over Dwight, M.Gasol, Noah, Hibbert, Love, Cousins, Horford, Drummond, Duncan and Al Jefferson?!? Don't make me laugh. Dude is not even top 10, let alone top 3. And that's before we get to his bad foot.
nikster wrote:dannyh8181 wrote:Sam195 wrote:When I initially heard this was going down I liked it for the pacers because if he is healthy in the playoffs they can bang low and post up in every playoff match-up for 60 min. West and Hibbert as starters with bynum and scola off the bench. Heat are going to regret choosing oden over bynum because bynum has already had a couple of double-double games with the cavs earlier this season coming off the bench. What's making me scratch my head is that he was holding out for a contract that pays him more than the veterans minimum and now he has settled for that while basically accepting a back-up role. If he wanted a better chance at starters minutes, he should have signed with the spurs especially with splitter injured. Splitter has started games at both center and pf the last two seasons for the spurs in most games but has pulled in 4th quarters and other key moments in favor of kawhi leonard and boris diaw alongside duncan in a small ball lineup. Bynum could easily have made the spurs rotation. I'd figure spurs would have signed bynum if it would only cost them the minimum but maybe they weren't interested especially with the stephen jackson locker room drama last season.
Anything that was said either by bynum or his representatives about wanting starters minutes was a lie which I had figured from the start. He's a lazy **** who rather chill and play 15 mins a game on a contender and hopefully get a ring along the way. He clearly no longer has the drive to make something of himself like he did when he was younger, and he definitely doesn't have the passion to want to become great. Mark my words you will only see Bynum give his full effort a maximum of about 20 games from now until the end of the playoffs. Games where he MAY give full effort:
-His first game he plays as a Pacer
-Pacers vs Lakers in late February.
-Two remaining games Pacers vs. Heat
-Pacers vs Cavs in late March
-MAYBE a couple games in the first two rounds of playoffs but the competition is awful so I'm not even sure
-7 (or less) games vs. Heat in eastern conference finals.
-7 (or less) games vs whomever in finals IF they make it out of the east.
you are so full of **** its hilarious
ybnd wrote:andoi_25 wrote:ybnd wrote:
Bynum is a top 3 Center
Bynum was a top 3 center
Bynum was the NUMBER ONE now hes top 3
ybnd wrote:Temuhjan wrote:ybnd wrote:Bynum was the NUMBER ONE now hes top 3
Over Dwight, M.Gasol, Noah, Hibbert, Love, Cousins, Horford, Drummond, Duncan and Al Jefferson?!? Don't make me laugh. Dude is not even top 10, let alone top 3. And that's before we get to his bad foot.
I would take him over everyone on your list expect Dwight and Hoford then Love 4th...Al Jefferson is a PF so is Duncan
ybnd wrote:RedX wrote:ybnd wrote:
His knees are not as bad as you think...and a money leech? The NBA is a business its always been said it is....it isnt his fault teams decided to pay him a **** ton of money put a **** cast around him not be able to please him and then have to let him go.....bad managerial decisions....CLE and PHI not really great organizations now are they? The only reason either of the teams have been successful in the past 20 years is because they each had a superstar but couldnt fit a cast around the star to win...they suck....you cant blame bynum for not wanting to put any more miles on his legs and risk injury playing for teams that were going no where
You're right, when those teams signed him it was because he gave them a heads up that he won't actually play, right? Give me a break. If you're asking teams to sign you, than be a man and do your job. We don't get paid to sit on our asses. He signed a new contract in Cleveland, it wasn't a case where he got hurt as he was playing.
So yes, I fully blame him for not 'risking' his knees for teams that are paying him millions for just that. Teams who bet their bottom line on their success by acquiring him - especially philly.
Anyways, hope you're an Indiana fan because you'll see the same act.
It isnt even worth it to compete for those teams because they dont know what the **** they are doing so why blow your knees out for an organization going no where?? Wait and get a new contract somewhere else...NBA is business from both sides of things...oh and im not a Pacer fan im a Larry Bird fan
dannyh8181 wrote:nikster wrote:dannyh8181 wrote:
Anything that was said either by bynum or his representatives about wanting starters minutes was a lie which I had figured from the start. He's a lazy **** who rather chill and play 15 mins a game on a contender and hopefully get a ring along the way. He clearly no longer has the drive to make something of himself like he did when he was younger, and he definitely doesn't have the passion to want to become great. Mark my words you will only see Bynum give his full effort a maximum of about 20 games from now until the end of the playoffs. Games where he MAY give full effort:
-His first game he plays as a Pacer
-Pacers vs Lakers in late February.
-Two remaining games Pacers vs. Heat
-Pacers vs Cavs in late March
-MAYBE a couple games in the first two rounds of playoffs but the competition is awful so I'm not even sure
-7 (or less) games vs. Heat in eastern conference finals.
-7 (or less) games vs whomever in finals IF they make it out of the east.
you are so full of **** its hilarious
Let's watch and see. If your an nba fan and haven't realized by now that Bynum is lazy and is a borderline cancer your a f*ck*ing idiot
ybnd wrote:ralphie9898 wrote: If he is on good behavior he makes this just that much more deeper.
Bynum has respect for his elders...and he dealt with Kobe for years...Kobe taught him what it takes to get the bling....Bynum might even end up taking the starting position
gold0259 wrote:ralphie9898 wrote:andoi_25 wrote:
Best frontcourt in the NBA? I guess if you go by record. Other beast frontcourts that come to mind..
(no particular order)
DJ - Griffin
Bogut - Lee
Zbo - M. Gasol
Drummond - Monroe
Horford - Millsap (when healthy)
Yeah I would sya they have one of the best frontcourts but there are challengers. But they don't have that good of a backup center. They only have Mahimi behind Hibbert and this gives them someone who can spell Hibbert from time to time along with Mahimi. As for this being cancerous yeah that is possible but not as likely as this is a strong team with good leadership and they should be able to handle guys like this. They have a good structure in place and winning tends to make people happy and that includes Bynum. Even if he does start becoming problematic I don't see it hurting the play of the other guys. If he is on good behavior he makes this just that much more deeper.
pekovic and love best Duo when healthy!
andoi_25 wrote:ybnd wrote:andoi_25 wrote:
Bynum was a top 3 center
Bynum was the NUMBER ONE now hes top 3
You smoking that good stuff. Bynum had superstars to not only mentor him, but to make him better on the court. Mozgov would play just like Bynum did with Kobe and Pau by his side back then.
Bynum never was a number one center. And right now, he definitely is not a top 3 center and never will be again with his attitude.
andoi_25 wrote:ybnd wrote:Temuhjan wrote:Over Dwight, M.Gasol, Noah, Hibbert, Love, Cousins, Horford, Drummond, Duncan and Al Jefferson?!? Don't make me laugh. Dude is not even top 10, let alone top 3. And that's before we get to his bad foot.
I would take him over everyone on your list expect Dwight and Hoford then Love 4th...Al Jefferson is a PF so is Duncan
You would take Bynum over Love? Thank you, now it's completely clear that you are an idiot.
ralphie9898 wrote:ybnd wrote:ralphie9898 wrote: If he is on good behavior he makes this just that much more deeper.
Bynum has respect for his elders...and he dealt with Kobe for years...Kobe taught him what it takes to get the bling....Bynum might even end up taking the starting position
Never said he didn't. But he was suspended by the cavs for conduct detrimental to the team. So there is some problems with his attitude or demeanor. We shall see if it was just the fact that he was in Cleveland or if it is a larger issue. But as far as taking the starting position away from Hibbert. You have to be kidding me. There is no way Bynum is up for those kind of minutes. And Hibbert is a much better center these days and he is part of the heart and soul of that team. He is a backup. period.
RedX wrote:ybnd wrote:RedX wrote:
You're right, when those teams signed him it was because he gave them a heads up that he won't actually play, right? Give me a break. If you're asking teams to sign you, than be a man and do your job. We don't get paid to sit on our asses. He signed a new contract in Cleveland, it wasn't a case where he got hurt as he was playing.
So yes, I fully blame him for not 'risking' his knees for teams that are paying him millions for just that. Teams who bet their bottom line on their success by acquiring him - especially philly.
Anyways, hope you're an Indiana fan because you'll see the same act.
It isnt even worth it to compete for those teams because they dont know what the **** they are doing so why blow your knees out for an organization going no where?? Wait and get a new contract somewhere else...NBA is business from both sides of things...oh and im not a Pacer fan im a Larry Bird fan
andoi_25 wrote:ybnd wrote:andoi_25 wrote:
Bynum was a top 3 center
Bynum was the NUMBER ONE now hes top 3
You smoking that good stuff. Bynum had superstars to not only mentor him, but to make him better on the court. Mozgov would play just like Bynum did with Kobe and Pau by his side back then.
Bynum never was a number one center. And right now, he definitely is not a top 3 center and never will be again with his attitude.
ybnd wrote:ralphie9898 wrote:ybnd wrote:
Bynum has respect for his elders...and he dealt with Kobe for years...Kobe taught him what it takes to get the bling....Bynum might even end up taking the starting position
Never said he didn't. But he was suspended by the cavs for conduct detrimental to the team. So there is some problems with his attitude or demeanor. We shall see if it was just the fact that he was in Cleveland or if it is a larger issue. But as far as taking the starting position away from Hibbert. You have to be kidding me. There is no way Bynum is up for those kind of minutes. And Hibbert is a much better center these days and he is part of the heart and soul of that team. He is a backup. period.
Not period....He is the best center on that team...when you are the best player at your position on your team anything can happen...especially whenyour top 3 in the league
ybnd wrote:andoi_25 wrote:ybnd wrote:
Bynum was the NUMBER ONE now hes top 3
You smoking that good stuff. Bynum had superstars to not only mentor him, but to make him better on the court. Mozgov would play just like Bynum did with Kobe and Pau by his side back then.
Bynum never was a number one center. And right now, he definitely is not a top 3 center and never will be again with his attitude.
Bynum has ALWAYS been better then Howard....When Bynum is healthy and on the court he is ten times better then Dwight....He has better foot work and post moves...a better jump shot...he can defend and block shots and bang...he can pass.....and he has the same **** bag attitude that Howard has except he doesnt cry like a lil biutch 24/7 like Dwight.....Bynum will come back...end up getting serious minutes in which he will make serious contributions...he will get another ring....take a pay cut next year sign to another contender...win another ring cash some more checks you can all hate it
ralphie9898 wrote:ybnd wrote:andoi_25 wrote:
You smoking that good stuff. Bynum had superstars to not only mentor him, but to make him better on the court. Mozgov would play just like Bynum did with Kobe and Pau by his side back then.
Bynum never was a number one center. And right now, he definitely is not a top 3 center and never will be again with his attitude.
Bynum has ALWAYS been better then Howard....When Bynum is healthy and on the court he is ten times better then Dwight....He has better foot work and post moves...a better jump shot...he can defend and block shots and bang...he can pass.....and he has the same **** bag attitude that Howard has except he doesnt cry like a lil biutch 24/7 like Dwight.....Bynum will come back...end up getting serious minutes in which he will make serious contributions...he will get another ring....take a pay cut next year sign to another contender...win another ring cash some more checks you can all hate it
Bynum isn't that good anymore. Just wwait and watch when he only gets backup minutes for the rest of this year with Indi. Then he only gets a small offer and so on. Just watch. He is not the same center he was a couple years ago. Yes a couple years ago he was one of the best centers in the game. I wouldn't say he was better than Howard but he was pretty darn close. But that was two years ago and welcome to the here and now where he just isn't that anymore. His knees just aren't in good enough shape to where he can be that same center people thought he was.
ybnd wrote:ralphie9898 wrote:ybnd wrote:
Bynum has ALWAYS been better then Howard....When Bynum is healthy and on the court he is ten times better then Dwight....He has better foot work and post moves...a better jump shot...he can defend and block shots and bang...he can pass.....and he has the same **** bag attitude that Howard has except he doesnt cry like a lil biutch 24/7 like Dwight.....Bynum will come back...end up getting serious minutes in which he will make serious contributions...he will get another ring....take a pay cut next year sign to another contender...win another ring cash some more checks you can all hate it
Bynum isn't that good anymore. Just wwait and watch when he only gets backup minutes for the rest of this year with Indi. Then he only gets a small offer and so on. Just watch. He is not the same center he was a couple years ago. Yes a couple years ago he was one of the best centers in the game. I wouldn't say he was better than Howard but he was pretty darn close. But that was two years ago and welcome to the here and now where he just isn't that anymore. His knees just aren't in good enough shape to where he can be that same center people thought he was.
His knees are fine...you will see...he will be starting again