Pistons need to finish above .500 to have shot at 8th seed.

Dre Drummond · Post #1 » by **Dre Drummond** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 3:04 pm

Right now the Pistons are 19-28 and they have 35 games left... but they have a tough schedule and with Charlotte looking to make trades to get better (Evan Turner rumor) and them having assest in our 2014 and their 2014 pick... Charlotte is all in to make a playoff push. New York also has no pick and no incentive not to make the playoffs. They have an easier remaining schedule than us and finally have Tyson Chandler back who is a big difference maker for them.

Loooking at those factors, and how much teams in the 5/6/7 spots have pulled ahead of us I'd say right now our only realistic chance of making the playoffs is as the 8th seed. And with 35 games left we'll likely have to go 18-17 to have a chance at the 8th seed. Which would put us at 38-44 for the season.

Looking at our remaining games its looking nearly impossible to pull out 18 wins to get to 38 for the season to have a realistic chance at the playoffs... A trade to shake up the lineup would probably be the only shot we've got unless we suddenly start playing to our full potential all of the sudden.

Wed, Feb 5 @ Orlando
Fri, Feb 7 vs. Brooklyn
Sat, Feb 8 vs. Denver
Mon, Feb 10 vs. San Antonio
Wed, Feb 12 vs. Cleveland
Tue, Feb 18 vs. Charlotte
Wed, Feb 19 @ Charlotte
Fri, Feb 21 vs. Atlanta
Sat, Feb 22 vs. Dallas
Mon, Feb 24 vs. Golden State
Wed, Feb 26 @ San Antonio
Sat, Mar 1 @ Houston
Mon, Mar 3 vs. NY Knicks
Wed, Mar 5 vs. Chicago
Fri, Mar 7 @ Minnesota
Sun, Mar 9 @ Boston
Tue, Mar 11 vs. Sacramento
Wed, Mar 12 @ Toronto
Sat, Mar 15 vs. Indiana
Wed, Mar 19 @ Denver
Fri, Mar 21 @ Phoenix
Sat, Mar 22 @ Los Angeles
Mon, Mar 24 @ Utah
Wed, Mar 26 vs. Cleveland
Fri, Mar 28 vs. Miami
Sat, Mar 29 @ Philadelphia
Mon, Mar 31 vs. Milwaukee
Wed, Apr 2 @ Indiana
Fri, Apr 4 @ Brooklyn
Sat, Apr 5 vs. Boston
Wed, Apr 8 @ Atlanta
Wed, Apr 9 @ Cleveland
Fri, Apr 11 @ Chicago
Sun, Apr 13 vs. Toronto
Wed, Apr 16 @ Oklahoma City

ImHeisenberg · Post #2 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 4:07 pm

There's no way this team finishes at .500 for the season, absolutely zero chance.

But, I also don't believe that any team in the east will have to win 50% of their games to make the playoffs either.

Post #3 » by **theBigLip** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:23 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no way this team finishes at .500 for the season, absolutely zero chance.

But, I also don't believe that any team in the east will have to win 50% of their games to make the playoffs either.

We absolutely don't have to be 500 to make the playoffs. The big question is how many losses does it take to get the 8th pick?

tommytucker · Post #4 » by **tommytucker** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:57 pm

Learn to read y'all.

He said .500 the rest of the way, not for the whole season.

Post #5 » by **dVs33** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:13 pm

tommytucker wrote:Learn to read y'all.

He said .500 the rest of the way, not for the whole season.

Get outta here with your reading comprehension

As for winning 50% of our games going forward i'm very skeptical of us gettign near that.

ImHeisenberg · Post #6 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 6:15 pm

tommytucker wrote:Learn to read y'all.

He said .500 the rest of the way, not for the whole season.

Fair enough. This team isn't going to go .500 the rest of the season either. They're truly awful.

The only way this team goes .500 the rest of the season is if they can alternate between playing Philly, Orlando and maybe Milwaukee for the remaining games.

Phenomenonsense · Post #7 » by **Phenomenonsense** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:13 pm

Obviously we need to all be on the tank train.

Clarity · Post #8 » by **Clarity** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:54 pm

Luckily the tank commander was 1-16 outside the restricted area last night, hes doing his part.

Gonna suck seeing Monroe & Drummond in different teams jerseys in a few years though.

Oh well, Jennings & Smooooooove will carry us to the promise land.

jakebernat · Post #9 » by **jakebernat** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:02 pm

Clarity wrote:Luckily the tank commander was 1-16 outside the restricted area last night, hes doing his part.

Gonna suck seeing Monroe & Drummond in different teams jerseys in a few years though.

Oh well, Jennings & Smooooooove will carry us to the promise land.

drummond's going nowhere as long as we own his rights for the next 7-8 years...

Neptune · Post #10 » by **Neptune** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:10 pm

jakebernat wrote:
Clarity wrote:Luckily the tank commander was 1-16 outside the restricted area last night, hes doing his part.

Gonna suck seeing Monroe & Drummond in different teams jerseys in a few years though.

Oh well, Jennings & Smooooooove will carry us to the promise land.

drummond's going nowhere as long as we own his rights for the next 7-8 years...

Huh? The Pistons don't have a trash organization like that. I have no clue what these two are talking about.

@Dre Drummond:
I see us making the 8th seed, I don't think we'll need to go .500 to get there. The Bobcats or Brooklyn will fall off sooner or later.

Q00 · Post #11 » by **Q00** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:16 pm

I'm not into the schedule game. Just let the games play out. I believe there was another thread on here a month ago, before what was supposed to be a bunch of "scheduling wins", and ended up being our worst stretch of the year. Any team can win any night and just because a team has a bad record against the rest of the league doesn't mean you match up good with them. In the end its about matchups and how you perform that given night, not records.

Neptune · Post #12 » by **Neptune** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:21 pm

Q00 wrote:I'm not into the schedule game. Just let the games play out. I believe there was another thread on here a month ago, before what was supposed to be a bunch of "scheduling wins", and ended up being our worst stretch of the year. Any team can win any night and just because a team has a bad record against the rest of the league doesn't mean you match up good with them. In the end its about matchups and how you perform that given night, not records.

Good post

Clarity · Post #13 » by **Clarity** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:26 pm

jakebernat wrote:
Clarity wrote:Luckily the tank commander was 1-16 outside the restricted area last night, hes doing his part.

Gonna suck seeing Monroe & Drummond in different teams jerseys in a few years though.

Oh well, Jennings & Smooooooove will carry us to the promise land.

drummond's going nowhere as long as we own his rights for the next 7-8 years...

We actually own his right for the next 2 seasons after this.

Unless we get back on track with respect to him & quit with the silly stop gaps which stunt his development (which is our only real shot at being great again down the road) him sticking around wouldnt make much sense.

joseph mamah · Post #14 » by **joseph mamah** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:28 pm

Dumars and the rest of the PS and E brain-trust need to figure out what they want to do. if Moose is staying and theyre still on their little playoff kick then they need to figure out a way to add a decent wing without giving up any of our core, which would give us a shot to finish the year somewhat strong. if they've finally accepted the fact that the playoffs are a long shot, they need to trade Stuckey for a 1st rounder while they still can and embrace the tank.

jakebernat · Post #15 » by **jakebernat** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:32 pm

Clarity wrote:We actually own his right for the next 2 seasons after this.

Unless we get back on track with respect to him & quit with the silly stop gaps which stunt his development (which is our only real shot at being great again down the road) him sticking around wouldnt make much sense.

wrong. he's a restricted free agent after two years, we can match any offer he receives or offer him up to 5 years, so we only let him go if we choose to let him go.

trade for anderson. build around drummond. KCP's the only other player on this team who i'm completely comfortable with moving forward. i guess singler works too, but he's replaceable.

rock digger · Post #16 » by **rock digger** » Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:42 pm

jakebernat wrote:
Clarity wrote:We actually own his right for the next 2 seasons after this.

Unless we get back on track with respect to him & quit with the silly stop gaps which stunt his development (which is our only real shot at being great again down the road) him sticking around wouldnt make much sense.

wrong. he's a restricted free agent after two years, we can match any offer he receives or offer him up to 5 years, so we only let him go if we choose to let him go.

trade for anderson. build around drummond. KCP's the only other player on this team who i'm completely comfortable with moving forward. i guess singler works too, but he's replaceable.

Don't get into an argument about RFA with him. Earlier this summer we tried explaining to him that Paul George wasn't going to leave the Pacers for the Lakers when his rookie contract expired, but he wouldn't listen. RFA isn't his forte.

Manocad · Post #17 » by **Manocad** » Wed Feb 5, 2014 3:44 am

I still for the life of me don't understand why anyone would want the Pistons to get an 8th seed, get jail sexed in the playoffs, and lose their first round draft pick. That makes no sense to me whatsoever.

joseph mamah · Post #18 » by **joseph mamah** » Wed Feb 5, 2014 4:23 am

Manocad wrote:I still for the life of me don't understand why anyone would want the Pistons to get an 8th seed, get jail sexed in the playoffs, and lose their first round draft pick. That makes no sense to me whatsoever.

im pretty apathetic towards the draft pick vs playoffs situation, but for this season to have been worth anything at all, we either need to be bad enough the rest of the way to be a bottom 7 or 8 team, or play well enough to sneak into the playoffs. it'll be bad if we finish the season in "no mans land" not making the playoffs to at least get our young guys some experience, and also not having our pick, which is where its looking like we're headed.

but then again, sneaking into the 8th seed might be enough for Joe to keep his job, so I guess we're d***** if we do, and d***** if we don't at this point, hence the apathy.

DBC10 · Post #19 » by **DBC10** » Wed Feb 5, 2014 4:34 am

joseph mamah wrote:
Manocad wrote:I still for the life of me don't understand why anyone would want the Pistons to get an 8th seed, get jail sexed in the playoffs, and lose their first round draft pick. That makes no sense to me whatsoever.

im pretty apathetic towards the draft pick vs playoffs situation, but for this season to have been worth anything at all, we either need to be bad enough the rest of the way to be a bottom 7 or 8 team, or play well enough to sneak into the playoffs. it'll be bad if we finish the season in "no mans land" not making the playoffs to at least get our young guys some experience, and also not having our pick, which is where its looking like we're headed.

but then again, sneaking into the 8th seed might be enough for Joe to keep his job, so I guess we're d***** if we do, and d***** if we don't at this point, hence the apathy.

I think we have a decent chance of tanking our way to get our pick back in this good to great draft. Not great chances, mind you, but decent enough that it might work. Since Dumars pretty much never tanked properly before, that's a precedent that probably won't be broken anyways. So we are screwed on getting the pick back on that end.

The only good thing about being stuck in no man's land is the fact that Dumars and Co will likely be ousted which should've happened long time ago. So either we have to hope we're in no man's land or we get our pick back.

Manocad · Post #20 » by **Manocad** » Wed Feb 5, 2014 4:40 am

Sneaking into the playoffs and getting crushed doesn't make this season worth s**t IMO. That's just like adding insult to injury because the draft pick in one of the deepest drafts in years would be lost. The draft pick is worth more than the "playoff experience" the young guys would get by getting humiliated in four games.

I want a horrible finish because I want the draft pick, I want Joe gone, and I want Mo gone. Starting over is what's best for this team IMO.