The Trade Thread

[MasterIchiro]

You've lost it if you actually believe the Pistons would give Monroe for MKG straight up. That's ridiculous

It's one year of Monroe then a huge cap space commitment. Think Luol Deng type of return.

True, but I'd rather commit to Monroe long-term than trade him for MKG, who will also eventually get an extension. And he's mostly a defensive specialist. Doesn't solve issues for us. We need someone who can shoot and play defense.

I think trading Monroe for MKG does solve at least some issues for you. You have too many players who need the ball in their hands and you thus lack team offense. Monroe needs touches and there is no flow to your offense because so many of your minutes go to players who, like Monroe, need touches. So you have ball movement issues. MKG is unselfish and he turns up shots often. You would still need an outside shooter at SG.

Chicago was realistic when they moved Luol Deng otherwise they would have been stuck with him if they asked for too much. Of course everyone here prefers to move Josh Smith or Jennings but I believe those guys are unmovable. There's a risk an offer for Monroe would make it impossible for you to keep him or highly impractical given Drummond and Smith.

And with MKG playing perimeter defense, Josh Smith will have more energy to focus on offense.

[MotownMadness]

It's one year of Monroe then a huge cap space commitment. Think Luol Deng type of return.

True, but I'd rather commit to Monroe long-term than trade him for MKG, who will also eventually get an extension. And he's mostly a defensive specialist. Doesn't solve issues for us. We need someone who can shoot and play defense.

I think trading Monroe for MKG does solve at least some issues for you. You have too many players who need the ball in their hands and you thus lack team offense. Monroe needs touches and there is no flow to your offense because so many of your minutes go to players who, like Monroe, need touches. So you have ball movement issues. MKG is unselfish and he turns up shots often. You would still need an outside shooter at SG.

Chicago was realistic when they moved Luol Deng otherwise they would have been stuck with him if they asked for too much. Of course everyone here prefers to move Josh Smith or Jennings but I believe those guys are unmovable. There's a risk an offer for Monroe would make it impossible for you to keep him or highly impractical given Drummond and Smith.

And with MKG playing perimeter defense, Josh Smith will have more energy to focus on offense.

MKG for Monroe straight up is a bad deal period and we aren't in a position of having to trade Monroe. Worst case we sign him and trade him later. Were going to have 20 mil in cap space again this summer. There's no sense in selling low on our best trade asset outside of Drummond. Teams should know that The Pistons aren't bluffing when they say they won't be low balled for Monroe.

[Piston Pete]

Only way I even remotely consider MKG for Monroe is if they give us the rights to our pick back....and even then its iffy

[Damon_3388]

I'd offer the Sixers both Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings for MCW and Jason Richardson.

[MrBigShot]

I think trading Monroe for MKG does solve at least some issues for you. You have too many players who need the ball in their hands and you thus lack team offense. Monroe needs touches and there is no flow to your offense because so many of your minutes go to players who, like Monroe, need touches. So you have ball movement issues. MKG is unselfish and he turns up shots often. You would still need an outside shooter at SG.

Chicago was realistic when they moved Luol Deng otherwise they would have been stuck with him if they asked for too much. Of course everyone here prefers to move Josh Smith or Jennings but I believe those guys are unmovable. There's a risk an offer for Monroe would make it impossible for you to keep him or highly impractical given Drummond and Smith.

And with MKG playing perimeter defense, Josh Smith will have more energy to focus on offense.

You are right in that we do have too many players who need the ball. And to alleviate that, we should look to get rid of Smith.

You forgot one very very important thing however: Luol Deng is an unrestricted FA. The Bulls dealt him because they likely would have lost him for nothing in the off season. I don't think they would've been willing to pay what he was expecting, especially with Jimmy Butler there. In this situation however, Monroe is an RFA. We are not in danger of him intentionally walking away, and I don't think our FO is stupid enough not to resign him...despite all of the questionable moves the last couple of years.

[sfballa13]

Only way I even remotely consider MKG for Monroe is if they give us the rights to our pick back....and even then its iffy

What about MKG, our pick back, AND dumping Bynum,Jerebko, Datome (9M more to spend this summer)

That 9M can be used to sign a starter.

Id do that deal and so would Charlotte. Cap space for them is esp overrated, no one is signing with the Bobcats.

We get our pick back and two starters (MKG) + money to buy another one

[MrBigShot]

Here's a trade that can help our team:

Detroit in:
Masai Ujiri

Toronto in:
Joe Dumars

[thruthefire]

It looks like both sides agree. A Monroe/MKG swap doesn't make sense for either team.

[theBigLip]

Only two weeks from the trade deadline. I'd expect the rumors to start flying and several teams to start lowering their asking price.

I hope Smith breaks out for 40 sometime this next week

[Kilo]

We need somebody to view Smoove how Sacto viewed Gay - a good player in the wrong situation who would rebound back if used right and a good fit for their current team.

I hope Dumars has reached out to the Knicks to see if they had any interest.

Smoove straight up for Bargnani OR Smoove and Stuckey for Amare and Hardaway Jr both work under the cap and I think good for both sides.

[paQo the BAWSER]

We need somebody to view Smoove how Sacto viewed Gay - a good player in the wrong situation who would rebound back if used right and a good fit for their current team.

He's that type of player, I think he can contribute in other teams playing at PF and with some alpha dog over him, which means he don't take too many bad shots (he'll continue taking bad shots, but not a lot of like here).

[Warspite]

Watched some Celtics games and Wallace was playing pretty well. Green and Wallace for Smith and Jerebko would fix us but would it be too late in the season?

[BadMofoPimp]

We need somebody to view Smoove how Sacto viewed Gay - a good player in the wrong situation who would rebound back if used right and a good fit for their current team.

I hope Dumars has reached out to the Knicks to see if they had any interest.

Smoove straight up for Bargnani OR Smoove and Stuckey for Amare and Hardaway Jr both work under the cap and I think good for both sides.

Too bad Toronto or the Bucks couldn't use a solid PF. Well, there is always the Knicks. They would probably wanna do Shumpert & Bargs or Amare for JSmooth.

[paQo the BAWSER]

Watched some Celtics games and Wallace was playing pretty well. Green and Wallace for Smith and Jerebko would fix us but would it be too late in the season?

I don't think you can get Green as smooth, but we could get better with Smith for Wallace. Anyway, we need to look others and more interesting options like get MKG or Shumpert, or that type of player, but if at the end we can't get nothing of value for Smith, I'm agree with trade him for Wallace.

[Q00]

Smith for MKG + our pick back. (Smith fits better with Jefferson)

Then we can use our pick in a package with Monroe, Stuckey/CV to get Rondo/Green

Rondo/Jennings
KCP/Jennings
MKG/Singler
Green/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrelson

[Q00]

Watched some Celtics games and Wallace was playing pretty well. Green and Wallace for Smith and Jerebko would fix us but would it be too late in the season?

I don't think you can get Green as smooth, but we could get better with Smith for Wallace. Anyway, we need to look others and more interesting options like get MKG or Shumpert, or that type of player, but if at the end we can't get nothing of value for Smith, I'm agree with trade him for Wallace.

Trading Smith for Wallace serves no purpose at all. It doesn't make any basketball sense or financial sense. Its basically just trading one big contract of a player whose productive but inconsistent, for another big contract of a player who is consistently unproductive. Wallace is avg 4 pts & 3 rebs and shoots 3s at the same rate as Smith. No thanks on Wallace unless Rondo is coming with him

[paQo the BAWSER]

Watched some Celtics games and Wallace was playing pretty well. Green and Wallace for Smith and Jerebko would fix us but would it be too late in the season?

I don't think you can get Green as smooth, but we could get better with Smith for Wallace. Anyway, we need to look others and more interesting options like get MKG or Shumpert, or that type of player, but if at the end we can't get nothing of value for Smith, I'm agree with trade him for Wallace.

Trading Smith for Wallace serves no purpose at all. It doesn't make any basketball sense or financial sense. Its basically just trading one big contract of a player whose productive but inconsistent, for another big contract of a player who is consistently unproductive. Wallace is avg 4 pts & 3 rebs and shoots 3s at the same rate as Smith. No thanks on Wallace unless Rondo is coming with him

But he's a SF at least We're really fu**ed up in this issue.

[haulerch]

Gerald Wallace for Smith... Horrible trade.

[MrBigShot]

Smith for MKG + our pick back. (Smith fits better with Jefferson)

Then we can use our pick in a package with Monroe, Stuckey/CV to get Rondo/Green

Rondo/Jennings
KCP/Jennings
MKG/Singler
Green/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrelson

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Would the bobcats though? It depends on whether or not they view him as a good player in a bad situation or not like someone above aid.

[Q00]

Smith for MKG + our pick back. (Smith fits better with Jefferson)

Then we can use our pick in a package with Monroe, Stuckey/CV to get Rondo/Green

Rondo/Jennings
KCP/Jennings
MKG/Singler
Green/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrelson

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Would the bobcats though? It depends on whether or not they view him as a good player in a bad situation or not like someone above aid.

I don't know, but I think he would fit great on their team. A Jefferson/Smith frontcourt is intriguing to me, more so than Jefferson/Monroe who are too similar.

I just want to get another draft pick because I think that's the main thing preventing us from getting Rondo. I think Ainge would do Monroe + lotto pick, but just Monroe alone is probably not enough. If we can find a way to get a pick somehow to use in trades it would really open up our options.