GT#48: San Antonio Spurs @ Washington Wizards 2/5 7:00PM

[hands11]

There is no art or creative thought involved in EG moves. The only way he has been able to get a fresh new face has been D-League call up.


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Nothing wrong with that. SAS does that as well.

Problem is this year he tied his hands by not trading or cutting Singleton and signing Maynor.

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

Was wondering if anybody heard anything from John Wall where he elaborated on his tweet about last night's game being on him.

You never know how things play out, but I thought one of the under-the-radar big plays happened with 1:45 left to play. John Wall was bringing the ball up court after a San Antonio missed shot appearing intent on running clock but Nene i'm guessing felt he was in position to make a play to Gortat and convinced Wall, who had barely crossed the half court line, to give the ball up. Problem is 18 seconds were still on the shot clock when Wall gave the ball up and Gortat didn't convert off the Nene pass. I thought this was a big misuse of clock during the live game and after watching it over I still feel the same way.

This summed up the Wizards undoing to me, they weren't settled and seemed panicked despite leading by five points for a long stretch.

Outside of shouldering the blame as expected from the leader of a team, I don't really see how Wall places the loss solely on himself...players missed shots, foul weren't called, and at points the team as a whole played like they didn't believe in their own abilities.

[GhostsOfGil]

Was listening to TBJ podcast (or now the starters?) and they were talking about this game. They mentioned how Wall's reputation as a jump shot lover is growing rapidly. Then they went on: I forgot how they said it exactly but it was something along the lines of "when you shoot jumpers as much as he does, your bound to go through slumps, unfortunately he doesnt seem to attack the paint when his shot isnt falling"

Everyone seems to be thinking the same thing EXCEPT for Wall and the coaching staff.

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

Nets should send over a 2015 2nd round pick as a thank you gift for tonight's win...

[hands11]

Nets should send over a 2015 2nd round pick as a thank you gift for tonight's win...

Man they were lucky. Duncan didn't even play because he was resting from 40 minutes last night and no Parker and no Boris - DNP FOOD POISONING

[dobrojim]

Nets should send over a 2015 2nd round pick as a thank you gift for tonight's win...

I was going to post something similar. We wore out TD. He didn't play against BRK.
(didn't see the official reason why not, could be age on a b2b)
If he hadn't played against us, we win that game easily.

[Zonkerbl]

Was listening to TBJ podcast (or now the starters?) and they were talking about this game. They mentioned how Wall's reputation as a jump shot lover is growing rapidly. Then they went on: I forgot how they said it exactly but it was something along the lines of "when you shoot jumpers as much as he does, your bound to go through slumps, unfortunately he doesnt seem to attack the paint when his shot isnt falling"

Everyone seems to be thinking the same thing EXCEPT for Wall and the coaching staff.

From what I've seen, if Wall sees a certain amount of daylight, he always takes the jumper. I think Wittman's philosophy is you have to penalize the defense for sagging off him. And if I was a coach that's what I would say... in such and so situation, take the jumper. If you miss it's my fault.

[Rafael122]

Pop I think sits Duncan on the 2nd of back to backs. I think if we were up 20 at the half he would have pulled his starters.

[GhostsOfGil]

Was listening to TBJ podcast (or now the starters?) and they were talking about this game. They mentioned how Wall's reputation as a jump shot lover is growing rapidly. Then they went on: I forgot how they said it exactly but it was something along the lines of "when you shoot jumpers as much as he does, your bound to go through slumps, unfortunately he doesnt seem to attack the paint when his shot isnt falling"

Everyone seems to be thinking the same thing EXCEPT for Wall and the coaching staff.

From what I've seen, if Wall sees a certain amount of daylight, he always takes the jumper. I think Wittman's philosophy is you have to penalize the defense for sagging off him. And if I was a coach that's what I would say... in such and so situation, take the jumper. If you miss it's my fault.

I would say, just because your open doesn't mean its a good shot.

[Zonkerbl]

Was listening to TBJ podcast (or now the starters?) and they were talking about this game. They mentioned how Wall's reputation as a jump shot lover is growing rapidly. Then they went on: I forgot how they said it exactly but it was something along the lines of "when you shoot jumpers as much as he does, your bound to go through slumps, unfortunately he doesnt seem to attack the paint when his shot isnt falling"

Everyone seems to be thinking the same thing EXCEPT for Wall and the coaching staff.

From what I've seen, if Wall sees a certain amount of daylight, he always takes the jumper. I think Wittman's philosophy is you have to penalize the defense for sagging off him. And if I was a coach that's what I would say... in such and so situation, take the jumper. If you miss it's my fault.

I would say, just because your open doesn't mean its a good shot.

I would never tell one of my players that a shot I want him to take is a bad shot.

In fact I don't think I would ever tell a player that a shot he took was a bad shot. I would always say "that's not the kind of shot I want you to take. Remember in practice we've been doing this..." And I would be damn sure I was telling the truth, that what I'm saying is consistent with what we've been doing in practice.

Anyway it's easy enough to explain, especially to a professional bball player. See this play on tape? In this situation, see how much space he gives you? Take that shot. If he's closer than that, don't take it.

[GhostsOfGil]

Zonk, I guess the question is what value does that shot bring? If a player is an inefficient jump shooter, why tell him to shoot, regardless of the defense? It seems like teams are hoping Wall takes that shot. Now I will say, there is value in making a defender pay for sagging off. Maybe it helps open the lane and spreads the spacing. Maybe it frees up the PNR. Maybe it forces the help defender away from the weak side. But we're not seeing that. Defenders are consistently letting Wall get that shot because they know hes bound to miss more than he makes. I see very little value in making a defender pay for sagging off, if making him pay only happens 1 time out of 3.

[Nivek]

Wall is shooting 35% on 2pt jumpers so far this season. He's not making anyone "pay" for letting him shoot those shots. He's doing what the defense wants him to do.

He's shooting .308 from 3pt range. Account for the bonus point, and it's the equivalent of shooting .462 from 2pt range. Still not great, but better than those 2pt jumpers. When he gets to the rim, he's shooting 67% so far this season, which is a) tremendous, and b) a significant improvement over previous seasons.

If he's given an open 2pt jumper early in the shot clock, what the coaches ought to be telling him is to run the offense and work to get the team a better shot. That 2pt jumper will be there later in the shot clock.

[tontoz]

Those long 2s he takes early in the shot clock are really unacceptable. That is just dumb basketball.

[AFM]

Wall is shooting 35% on 2pt jumpers so far this season. He's not making anyone "pay" for letting him shoot those shots. He's doing what the defense wants him to do.

He's shooting .308 from 3pt range. Account for the bonus point, and it's the equivalent of shooting .462 from 2pt range. Still not great, but better than those 2pt jumpers. When he gets to the rim, he's shooting 67% so far this season, which is a) tremendous, and b) a significant improvement over previous seasons.

If he's given an open 2pt jumper early in the shot clock, what the coaches ought to be telling him is to run the offense and work to get the team a better shot. That 2pt jumper will be there later in the shot clock.

Your math is off. I've been taking tally of Wall's elbow jumpers in my head, and you're wrong.

[DCZards]

Wall is shooting 35% on 2pt jumpers so far this season. He's not making anyone "pay" for letting him shoot those shots. He's doing what the defense wants him to do.

He's shooting .308 from 3pt range. Account for the bonus point, and it's the equivalent of shooting .462 from 2pt range. Still not great, but better than those 2pt jumpers. When he gets to the rim, he's shooting 67% so far this season, which is a) tremendous, and b) a significant improvement over previous seasons.

If he's given an open 2pt jumper early in the shot clock, what the coaches ought to be telling him is to run the offense and work to get the team a better shot. That 2pt jumper will be there later in the shot clock.

I't a mistake for JW to take those long 2s, especially early in the shot clock which he does far too often. But he seems to be making more of those shots in recent weeks and his shooting form looks more consistent. I'd be interested in Wall's % on 2 pt. jumpers in Jan. and Feb. as opposed to what it was in Nov. and Dec. I may be dead wrong, but I suspect it's improved.

[Nivek]

Wall is shooting 35% on 2pt jumpers so far this season. He's not making anyone "pay" for letting him shoot those shots. He's doing what the defense wants him to do.

He's shooting .308 from 3pt range. Account for the bonus point, and it's the equivalent of shooting .462 from 2pt range. Still not great, but better than those 2pt jumpers. When he gets to the rim, he's shooting 67% so far this season, which is a) tremendous, and b) a significant improvement over previous seasons.

If he's given an open 2pt jumper early in the shot clock, what the coaches ought to be telling him is to run the offense and work to get the team a better shot. That 2pt jumper will be there later in the shot clock.

I't a mistake for JW to take those long 2s, especially early in the shot clock which he does far too often. But he seems to be making more of those shots in recent weeks and his shooting form looks more consistent. I'd be interested in Wall's % on 2 pt. jumpers in Jan. and Feb. as opposed to what it was in Nov. and Dec. I may be dead wrong, but I suspect it's improved.

I wish that was the case, but...it's not. In January and February, his percentage on shots from 5 feet to the 3pt line is .329.

[tontoz]

Wall is shooting 35% on 2pt jumpers so far this season. He's not making anyone "pay" for letting him shoot those shots. He's doing what the defense wants him to do.

He's shooting .308 from 3pt range. Account for the bonus point, and it's the equivalent of shooting .462 from 2pt range. Still not great, but better than those 2pt jumpers. When he gets to the rim, he's shooting 67% so far this season, which is a) tremendous, and b) a significant improvement over previous seasons.

If he's given an open 2pt jumper early in the shot clock, what the coaches ought to be telling him is to run the offense and work to get the team a better shot. That 2pt jumper will be there later in the shot clock.

Your math is off. I've been taking tally of Wall's elbow jumpers in my head, and you're wrong.

You can look at Walls shooting percentages for any distance/time frame right here.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... d=walljo01

You can also look at his shot chart at nba.com

http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... rID=202322

Walls jumper isn't as bad as it used to be but it is still bad.