The Trade Thread

[MGB8]

Actually thought of a Josh Smith trade that could actually go through and wouldn't cost you guys assets.

Smith, Villenueva and Stuckey to the Knicks for JR Smith and Amare.

Woodson isn't happy with Smith, and his shooting ability and general talent (though not attitude) would help in Detroit. Amare just isn't happy, and while his deal is ridiculous, it's only one more season as opposed to 4 more on Smith's.

[Notanoob]

Yeah, we've all considered the Smith for Amar'e or Bargs deals. Smith is miles ahead of both of them as a player though, so we'd much rather get value for him, or at least expiring contracts.

Also, no way we take JR Smith off their hands. He's got the same inefficiency problems as Smith, but worse, because he offers nothing on the other end of the court and he'd be a terrible influence on our younger guys.

We'd have to be getting an asset to take on JR Smith, even if we're giving up Smith.

Furthermore, Knicks fans already seem to be okay with taking on Smith for Bargs/Amar'e+Shump (or even Hardaway). Smith isn't such a negative that we should take on two awful contracts to move him. That's nuts. Your deal is terrible for us by including JR as opposed to a useful player like Shump.

[DBC10]

Please don't ever suggest having both Jennings and JR Smith on this team. There's already not enough shot attempts in a game for Jennings and our Smith, JR would exponentially increase that output.

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[triplet1984]

I'm terrified of Joe Dumars making moves *shudders*

[MotownMadness]

Hearing Cavs might trade Deng. I think this is a very realistic shot at trading Smith. Cavs have no chance of keeping Deng after this season and can't attract any free agents with all they're turmoil right now. I think they would jump on the oppurtunity to lock up Smoove for the next 4 years to pair up with Kyrie and try to make him happy. They have to be about done with the whole tanking thing because they are pretty much back where they started and are losing control of they're franchise. I really see this going down for some reason.

[Kilo]

We need to add or subtract before the deadline. Standing pat is the worst. We're not a play-off team, but we're not likely to finish bottom eight either - so we either need to sell and tank hard or trade CV to bring in a player that can help us win now ie trade CV's expiring contract to a tanking team for a starting caliber veteran shooting guard on a longer term deal.

[Warspite]

Watched some Celtics games and Wallace was playing pretty well. Green and Wallace for Smith and Jerebko would fix us but would it be too late in the season?

I don't think you can get Green as smooth, but we could get better with Smith for Wallace. Anyway, we need to look others and more interesting options like get MKG or Shumpert, or that type of player, but if at the end we can't get nothing of value for Smith, I'm agree with trade him for Wallace.

Trading Smith for Wallace serves no purpose at all. It doesn't make any basketball sense or financial sense. Its basically just trading one big contract of a player whose productive but inconsistent, for another big contract of a player who is consistently unproductive. Wallace is avg 4 pts & 3 rebs and shoots 3s at the same rate as Smith. No thanks on Wallace unless Rondo is coming with him

Addition by subtraction. Moving Smith, bringing in a legit SF of Greens ability and adding Wallace to the locker room you upgrade the teams bench and balance the roster. Your also changing the dynamic of the team by changing leadership. The Georgetown duo would then run the locker room.

[Warspite]

Hearing Cavs might trade Deng. I think this is a very realistic shot at trading Smith. Cavs have no chance of keeping Deng after this season and can't attract any free agents with all they're turmoil right now. I think they would jump on the oppurtunity to lock up Smoove for the next 4 years to pair up with Kyrie and try to make him happy. They have to be about done with the whole tanking thing because they are pretty much back where they started and are losing control of they're franchise. I really see this going down for some reason.

No doubt after drafting a PF with the #1 pick and Thompson with a previous lottery pick they could use a 13mil PF to get them into the playoffs.

[MotownMadness]

Hearing Cavs might trade Deng. I think this is a very realistic shot at trading Smith. Cavs have no chance of keeping Deng after this season and can't attract any free agents with all they're turmoil right now. I think they would jump on the oppurtunity to lock up Smoove for the next 4 years to pair up with Kyrie and try to make him happy. They have to be about done with the whole tanking thing because they are pretty much back where they started and are losing control of they're franchise. I really see this going down for some reason.

No doubt after drafting a PF with the #1 pick and Thompson with a previous lottery pick they could use a 13mil PF to get them into the playoffs.

Damn, I forgot they're future is all set with Anthony Bennett at the 4.

[Q00]

Hearing Cavs might trade Deng. I think this is a very realistic shot at trading Smith. Cavs have no chance of keeping Deng after this season and can't attract any free agents with all they're turmoil right now. I think they would jump on the oppurtunity to lock up Smoove for the next 4 years to pair up with Kyrie and try to make him happy. They have to be about done with the whole tanking thing because they are pretty much back where they started and are losing control of they're franchise. I really see this going down for some reason.

That would be hilarious if we traded Smith to the Cavs and then Joe followed him there in the offseason

[MotownMadness]

Cavs fans seem happy with it in the trade and transactions thread.

[Q00]

Hearing Cavs might trade Deng. I think this is a very realistic shot at trading Smith. Cavs have no chance of keeping Deng after this season and can't attract any free agents with all they're turmoil right now. I think they would jump on the oppurtunity to lock up Smoove for the next 4 years to pair up with Kyrie and try to make him happy. They have to be about done with the whole tanking thing because they are pretty much back where they started and are losing control of they're franchise. I really see this going down for some reason.

No doubt after drafting a PF with the #1 pick and Thompson with a previous lottery pick they could use a 13mil PF to get them into the playoffs.

Damn, I forgot they're future is all set with Anthony Bennett at the 4.

yeah I agree. Bennett is at least a few years away from being a contributor at all, let alone starter, and Thompson can play Center. If Gilbert wants to win now like he's saying, I could see them having interest in a Deng for Smith swap. Because like you said, they'll want to get something out of that deal and not just give up those draft picks for Deng for nothing when he leaves in FA. Plus capspace is useless to them because no one will sign there. I could definitely see them interested in Smith. Whereas some teams would be scared off by his longterm deal, the Cavs could look at it as a positive in that they would get talent guaranteed to stay there for the next 3 years.

I think Smith for Deng for would be a fair trade for the Pistons in talent/value, but I think we would have to get him to agree to resign, otherwise we are just giving Smith up for nothing.

[Q00]

I don't think you can get Green as smooth, but we could get better with Smith for Wallace. Anyway, we need to look others and more interesting options like get MKG or Shumpert, or that type of player, but if at the end we can't get nothing of value for Smith, I'm agree with trade him for Wallace.

Trading Smith for Wallace serves no purpose at all. It doesn't make any basketball sense or financial sense. Its basically just trading one big contract of a player whose productive but inconsistent, for another big contract of a player who is consistently unproductive. Wallace is avg 4 pts & 3 rebs and shoots 3s at the same rate as Smith. No thanks on Wallace unless Rondo is coming with him

Addition by subtraction. Moving Smith, bringing in a legit SF of Greens ability and adding Wallace to the locker room you upgrade the teams bench and balance the roster. Your also changing the dynamic of the team by changing leadership. The Georgetown duo would then run the locker room.

If you are getting Green in the deal too that's something to consider, but I thought he was just saying Smith for Wallace straight up.

Its nice that Monroe/Green are friends from college, but I don't really see any great leadership qualities in either player. They are more complimentary guys by nature of personalities, I think.

You are right though that we need to geta leader in here, because Drummond isn't really that type either from a vocal standpoint. Which is why Rondo would be so perfect here if we could get him. He would solve a lot of our defensive problems stopping dribble penetration, and give us much needed leadership.

[paQo the BAWSER]

otherwise we are just giving Smith up for nothing.

Nothing is a better fit in this team than Smith.

[MrBigShot]

I'd consider trading him for a bag of chips if I'm being honest. Depends on the flavor...

Seriously though, I too am not a huge fan of trading one big contract for another. I'd consider that deal if Jeff Green was apart of it.

[sfballa13]

I think we need to trade with Chicago, they are worried about paying Taj Gibson his bonus money which would send them into the repeaters tax.

Taj Gibson, Hinrich
for
Charlie V

Chicago saves 3M, we get ourselves probably the best backup PF in the game

[Q00]

otherwise we are just giving Smith up for nothing.

Nothing is a better fit in this team than Smith.

Well all I'll say is we've seen games where he didn't start and/or didn't play and the team was even worse, so I don't know about all that.

The team is just poorly coached regardless of who plays, so giving talent for nothing isn't the answer. Its getting a better coach. I'm all for trading anyone if it returns equal or better talent back, so that our next coach has pieces to work with, but I'm not into just giving up talent for nothing.

[BadMofoPimp]

I bet this team would be much different if Larry Brown circa 2004 was here. He would have these guys playing another style with more effort and accountability.

[Kilo]

I think we need to trade with Chicago, they are worried about paying Taj Gibson his bonus money which would send them into the repeaters tax.

Taj Gibson, Hinrich
for
Charlie V

Chicago saves 3M, we get ourselves probably the best backup PF in the game

PHX could offer Okafor's contract.

[sfballa13]

I think we need to trade with Chicago, they are worried about paying Taj Gibson his bonus money which would send them into the repeaters tax.

Taj Gibson, Hinrich
for
Charlie V

Chicago saves 3M, we get ourselves probably the best backup PF in the game

PHX could offer Okafor's contract.

PHX could do Okafor and a 1st for Taj Gibson which is a bit of an overpay but im sure the Bulls would love to take it

In fact PHX could take on Dunleavy, Gibson, and Hinrich which would really help with their playoff push

I love the Suns' squad its fun to watch and young, what we should have and could have been this year