'14 Draft Thread pt 2: vote again? VOTE AGAIN.

jtf150 · Post #2801 » by **jtf150** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 12:57 am

EastSideBucksFan wrote:Oh I agree the Bucks need to take BPA, but doesn't mean I haven't wracked my brain thinking about the ripple effect of drafting Jabari.

With Wiggins I think he seemlessly fits in to our lineup.

With Jabari, it's going to effect other guys in our "core".

Wiggins looked aweful good today! scoring 19 in a win over West Virginia. Embid had 11pts with 12 rebounds and 3 blocks, not bad either.

randy84 · Post #2802 » by **randy84** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 12:58 am

jtf150 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:Oh I agree the Bucks need to take BPA, but doesn't mean I haven't wracked my brain thinking about the ripple effect of drafting Jabari.

With Wiggins I think he seemlessly fits in to our lineup.

With Jabari, it's going to effect other guys in our "core".

Wiggins looked aweful good today! scoring 19 in a win over West Virginia. Embid had 11pts with 12 rebounds and 3 blocks, not bad either.

Not that I am pro-Jabari, but his game smoked both Embiid and Wiggins today. 28 and 15 with 3 blocks.

jtf150 · Post #2803 » by **jtf150** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:01 am

randy84 wrote:
jtf150 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:Oh I agree the Bucks need to take BPA, but doesn't mean I haven't wracked my brain thinking about the ripple effect of drafting Jabari.

With Wiggins I think he seemlessly fits in to our lineup.

With Jabari, it's going to effect other guys in our "core".

Wiggins looked aweful good today! scoring 19 in a win over West Virginia. Embid had 11pts with 12 rebounds and 3 blocks, not bad either.

Not that I am pro-Jabari, but his game smoked both Embiid and Wiggins today. 28 and 15 with 3 blocks.

I didnt realize he had that much.

Wise1 · Post #2804 » by **Wise1** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:09 am

Actually 29 and 16 with 3 blocks for Parker.

Buckrageous · Post #2805 » by **Buckrageous** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:09 am

EastSideBucksFan wrote:Oh I agree the Bucks need to take BPA, but doesn't mean I haven't wracked my brain thinking about the ripple effect of drafting Jabari.

With Wiggins I think he seemlessly fits in to our lineup.

With Jabari, it's going to effect other guys in our "core".

I think Parker fits nicely. I would love to see him paired with GA, I think they'd be great together. When they fill out they can be almost interchangable in te forward spots. Lateley Parker really stepped up his rebounding and looks to be more comfortable in the post as the year goes on. Frontline next year (if the take Parker):

Giannis / Middleton
Parker / Henson / Ersan (if they cant move hime)
Sanders / Henson / Zaza

The only guy I see that might force further moves is Embiid. Theres a spot for all the other top prospects to slide into the lineup. That wouldnt sway me away from Embiid though.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #2806 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:12 am

BC had nobody that could guard Jabari, but he was playing like a baller today.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #2807 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:18 am

If we draft Jabari I think it's the beginning of the end for John Henson's future in Milwaukee long term.

It will be Henson's third year and he'll be unhappy to see we drafted him because he's going to eat at playing time for him. We'll probably have to trade Henson after next season because he won't want to resign here.

Wiggins adds to our established core of Giannis, Henson, Sanders.....whereas Parker will be replacing one of them basically so how much better overall will he make us.

That's my thought process on Jabari currently.

Buckrageous · Post #2808 » by **Buckrageous** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:24 am

^ Thats possible. But I think Henson could still get "starter minutes" or close to it backing up the 4 and 5. I wouldnt move him if they draft Parker.

bizarro · Post #2809 » by **bizarro** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:25 am

EastSideBucksFan wrote:If we draft Jabari I think it's the beginning of the end for John Henson's future in Milwaukee long term.

It will be Henson's third year and he'll be unhappy to see we drafted him because he's going to eat at playing time for him. We'll probably have to trade Henson after next season because he won't want to resign here.

Wiggins adds to our established core of Giannis, Henson, Sanders.....whereas Parker will be replacing one of them basically so how much better overall will he make us.

That's my thought process on Jabari currently.

I've been saying this for a little bit now and I'm not trying to get on a soapbox but: It's my opinion Henson's last days are already upon us. He may last the season but I don't think he lasts much longer in this rebuild. I could be wrong BUT I see him on the low end of the totem pole.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #2810 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:26 am

EastSideBucksFan wrote:If we draft Jabari I think it's the beginning of the end for John Henson's future in Milwaukee long term.

It will be Henson's third year and he'll be unhappy to see we drafted him because he's going to eat at playing time for him. We'll probably have to trade Henson after next season because he won't want to resign here.

Wiggins adds to our established core of Giannis, Henson, Sanders.....whereas Parker will be replacing one of them basically so how much better overall will he make us.

That's my thought process on Jabari currently.

I feel like this is over thinking things a bit. If you think Parker is the best player you take him and don't worry for a second about John Henson's feelings.

breakchains · Post #2811 » by **breakchains** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:30 am

#2 is going to be pretty hard for me to determine, I think.

driese0824 · Post #2812 » by **driese0824** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:45 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:If we draft Jabari I think it's the beginning of the end for John Henson's future in Milwaukee long term.

It will be Henson's third year and he'll be unhappy to see we drafted him because he's going to eat at playing time for him. We'll probably have to trade Henson after next season because he won't want to resign here.

Wiggins adds to our established core of Giannis, Henson, Sanders.....whereas Parker will be replacing one of them basically so how much better overall will he make us.

That's my thought process on Jabari currently.

I feel like this is over thinking things a bit. If you think Parker is the best player you take him and don't worry for a second about John Henson's feelings.

Absolutely and let ne say that for all the fans clamouring for that alpha guy the go to scorer some1 that will put fans in the stands to me the only 2 choices are wiggins n parker,and for my money i would draft parker.
You then move giannis to the 2 spot,parker at the 3 henson and sanders.As for pg u play knight,with giannis at the 2 he can be your playmaker which in turn makes knight look alot better.
Thats not a bad starting 5

Baddy Chuck · Post #2813 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 1:52 am

driese0824 wrote:Absolutely and let ne say that for all the fans clamouring for that alpha guy the go to scorer some1 that will put fans in the stands to me the only 2 choices are wiggins n parker,and for my money i would draft parker.\

driese0824 wrote:Thats why without doubt 1st pick or not wiggins is who im taking great post

A lot changes for you over the course of an hour huh?

driese0824 · Post #2814 » by **driese0824** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 2:12 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
driese0824 wrote:Absolutely and let ne say that for all the fans clamouring for that alpha guy the go to scorer some1 that will put fans in the stands to me the only 2 choices are wiggins n parker,and for my money i would draft parker.\

driese0824 wrote:Thats why without doubt 1st pick or not wiggins is who im taking great post

A lot changes for you over the course of an hour huh?

Me bad ur correct i should of said 1st pick wiggins or parker in terms of whos more NBA ready i feel its parker but wiggins i feel will b much better D wise,i dont want embiid cause i luke Sanders

EastSideBucksFan · Post #2815 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 2:16 am

Embiid spotted with Bucks shirt on?

Turk Nowitzki · Post #2816 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 2:20 am

That's really random of him to be wearing a Bucks shirt.

Post #2817 » by **paulpressey25** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 2:21 am

breakchains wrote:#2 is going to be pretty hard for me to determine, I think.

Jabari's last two games have made me simply want a top three pick. We just can't lose with a top three. It gets a lot more dicey after that.

Baddy Chuck · Post #2818 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 2:21 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:That's really random of him to be wearing a Bucks shirt.

Luc was probably cleaning his shoes with them at those NBA cares camps.

Serge28 · Post #2819 » by **Serge28** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 2:28 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
breakchains wrote:#2 is going to be pretty hard for me to determine, I think.

Jabari's last two games have made me simply want a top three pick. We just can't lose with a top three. It gets a lot more dicey after that.

I disagree. I think Exum is clearly the #4 prospect on the board right now and could jump even higher depending on his pre-draft workouts.

breakchains · Post #2820 » by **breakchains** » Sun Feb 9, 2014 2:29 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
breakchains wrote:#2 is going to be pretty hard for me to determine, I think.

Jabari's last two games have made me simply want a top three pick. We just can't lose with a top three. It gets a lot more dicey after that.

Same here. For me its Embiid in tier 1, a drop off, Parker and Wiggins in tier 2, a drop off, Exum in tier 3, and then another drop off. The difference between 3 and 5 is huge IMO. Exum is just such a wild card that he'd be exciting to get but I'd be very nervous about it until I saw him play.

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