Your *reasonable* choice for the next Coach
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Your *reasonable* choice for the next Coach
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Your *reasonable* choice for the next Coach
Of those who you believe would take the job, who do you like best?
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Laimbeer wrote:Of those who you believe would take the job, who do you like best?
The guy in your usename/picture?

I would be very happy with Hollins. Well, Van Gundy would be my top choice, but that's never going to happen.


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There is only one answer and it is Lionel Hollins
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Nobody worth hiring will come here as long as Dumars is here. Period. And I don't want anybody who would be willing to come here with Dumars still as GM for that matter either as it reeks of desperation.
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Any of the Van Gundys will do and will be my top choices.
That will never happen as long as Joe is here though. I personally think Hollins is a bit overrated since Joerger (the current Grizz coach) was the heart and soul of that defensive prowess while has was an assistant. I'm sure he's a great motivator and no nonsense, but I largely don't think he's a great coach, but a good one.
That will never happen as long as Joe is here though. I personally think Hollins is a bit overrated since Joerger (the current Grizz coach) was the heart and soul of that defensive prowess while has was an assistant. I'm sure he's a great motivator and no nonsense, but I largely don't think he's a great coach, but a good one.
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Jeff Van Gundy as GM and Stan Van Gundy as HC. That would be instant stability and sent the message that the coach is in control and will be supported over anybody and everybody in the lockerroom. Absolute credibility and ability to demand complete accountability.
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Players are more important than the coach. Not saying they should have ful control, but brining a dictatorship like the van Gundys will alienate the players.
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Who's that Euro coach who's supposed to be their equivalent to Phil Jackson? Let's higher him if he can speak English well. Obranovic or something like that?
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Obradovic. I wouldn't mind him either.Notanoob wrote:Who's that Euro coach who's supposed to be their equivalent to Phil Jackson? Let's higher him if he can speak English well. Obranovic or something like that?
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Me. I have experience as a Varsity Assistant Coach, Head Coach for a summer camp team, and NBA 2k experience. I also have won NBA Sim League championships. I'll accept a hometown discount....4yrs $4M. Sign me up!
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ComboGuardCity wrote:Players are more important than the coach. Not saying they should have ful control, but brining a dictatorship like the van Gundys will alienate the players.
Than good riddance to said players. Players need structure and accountability and if they don't want that they can play elsewhere. You think Pop suffers fools? James went to Miami in part because Riley would demand accountability and Sepolstra was a Riley acolyte. James ran things in Cleveland and knows how that worked out for him.
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I would love for Jeff VG to be involved in our front office.
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Kilo wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:Players are more important than the coach. Not saying they should have ful control, but brining a dictatorship like the van Gundys will alienate the players.
Than good riddance to said players. Players need structure and accountability and if they don't want that they can play elsewhere. You think Pop suffers fools? James went to Miami in part because Riley would demand accountability and Sepolstra was a Riley acolyte. James ran things in Cleveland and knows how that worked out for him.
The Van Gundys are me first rather than team first. You think Spo has more say than Lebron? Stability is good but the van Gundys take it over board.
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Phenomenonsense wrote:I would love for Jeff VG to be involved in our front office.
He's on record saying some bad things about our front office so I don't see that ever happening.
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George Karl.
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Lionel Hollins or Karl. I think either of them would take the job. The talent here is now obvious, which it wasn't in the summer, and there's opportunity to make some noise in the playoffs in a weak East.
I favor Hollins over Karl though because Karl has never been known to have great defensive teams. He would probably have us playing similarly, in terms of an offense-heavy game with less attention to defense, just bring a more experienced higher IQ in game manager tha Cheeks. Which would certainly be an upgrade, but I think you get that with Hollins too, but a guy who better fits the Detroit brand of basketball, with his defensive coaching ability.
A lot of people said Dave Joerger was the man behind Memphis' great defense. We are seeing now that was not the case. They went from 3rd in opponent FG% last year to currently 14th.
Hollins' experience with big men makes it an easy choice between the two for me. He turned Marc Gasol into the DPY. Imagine what he could do with Drummond.
I favor Hollins over Karl though because Karl has never been known to have great defensive teams. He would probably have us playing similarly, in terms of an offense-heavy game with less attention to defense, just bring a more experienced higher IQ in game manager tha Cheeks. Which would certainly be an upgrade, but I think you get that with Hollins too, but a guy who better fits the Detroit brand of basketball, with his defensive coaching ability.
A lot of people said Dave Joerger was the man behind Memphis' great defense. We are seeing now that was not the case. They went from 3rd in opponent FG% last year to currently 14th.
Hollins' experience with big men makes it an easy choice between the two for me. He turned Marc Gasol into the DPY. Imagine what he could do with Drummond.
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MotownMadness wrote:Phenomenonsense wrote:I would love for Jeff VG to be involved in our front office.
He's on record saying some bad things about our front office so I don't see that ever happening.
Being viewed as the enemy of JoeD might not be a bad thing in Gores' eyes

I don't know if I'm a fan of JVG though.
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DBC10 wrote:Obradovic. I wouldn't mind him either.Notanoob wrote:Who's that Euro coach who's supposed to be their equivalent to Phil Jackson? Let's higher him if he can speak English well. Obranovic or something like that?
Obradovic would be an awesome coach here, with his defensive mentality and his playbook.
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Having Conley, Allen, and Gasol will undoubtedly make your defense worse. They're fine even with Conley and Allen out right now. The fact that the FO made him easily the next coach after Hollins walked shows that he does have potential.Q00 wrote:Lionel Hollins or Karl. I think either of them would take the job. The talent here is now obvious, which it wasn't in the summer, and there's opportunity to make some noise in the playoffs in a weak East.
I favor Hollins over Karl though because Karl has never been known to have great defensive teams. He would probably have us playing similarly, in terms of an offense-heavy game with less attention to defense, just bring a more experienced higher IQ in game manager tha Cheeks. Which would certainly be an upgrade, but I think you get that with Hollins too, but a guy who better fits the Detroit brand of basketball, with his defensive coaching ability.
A lot of people said Dave Joerger was the man behind Memphis' great defense. We are seeing now that was not the case. They went from 3rd in opponent FG% last year to currently 14th.
Hollins' experience with big men makes it an easy choice between the two for me. He turned Marc Gasol into the DPY. Imagine what he could do with Drummond.
Joerger is legit, period. Oh and look, he got coach of the month too.
Memphis held opponents to 91.5 points per game in January and were even better after Marc Gasol returned Jan. 14 as they allowed a league-low 86.3 points per game.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/03/3 ... rylink=cpy
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DBC10 wrote:Having Conley, Allen, and Gasol will undoubtedly make your defense worse. They're fine even with Conley and Allen out right now. The fact that the FO made him easily the next coach after Hollins walked shows that he does have potential.Q00 wrote:Lionel Hollins or Karl. I think either of them would take the job. The talent here is now obvious, which it wasn't in the summer, and there's opportunity to make some noise in the playoffs in a weak East.
I favor Hollins over Karl though because Karl has never been known to have great defensive teams. He would probably have us playing similarly, in terms of an offense-heavy game with less attention to defense, just bring a more experienced higher IQ in game manager tha Cheeks. Which would certainly be an upgrade, but I think you get that with Hollins too, but a guy who better fits the Detroit brand of basketball, with his defensive coaching ability.
A lot of people said Dave Joerger was the man behind Memphis' great defense. We are seeing now that was not the case. They went from 3rd in opponent FG% last year to currently 14th.
Hollins' experience with big men makes it an easy choice between the two for me. He turned Marc Gasol into the DPY. Imagine what he could do with Drummond.
Joerger is legit, period. Oh and look, he got coach of the month too.Memphis held opponents to 91.5 points per game in January and were even better after Marc Gasol returned Jan. 14 as they allowed a league-low 86.3 points per game.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/03/3 ... rylink=cpy
Legit? They are 27-22 and 9th seed in the West. Sure he's got potential, but lets not kid ourselves who was the better coach there. Winning coach of the month doesn't make you legit. Taking a team to the WCF and winning 56 games one year, and beating #1 seed Spurs as an 8th seed another does.
Joerger might go on to be a good coach, but Hollins was the man who built that team and was responsible for their success the last few years, not him.