Game # 54. 76ers @ the Staples

[Neddy]

Feb 9th 6:30 PM at








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[Neddy]

im gonna miss that old Wilshire Grand Hotel. what a dump it was but a piece of LA history. some decent venues were held there too. I wonder what kind of chaos that new "tallest west of mississippi" building is going to add on to already congested K town traffic once that monster is up. gonna get harder to stop by for some good food when i visit there in the future.

[azncorruptedo17]

i'll be there

[Ranma]

I wonder what kind of chaos that new "tallest west of mississippi" building is going to add on to already congested K town traffic once that monster is up.

I share the same sentiments even though I reside in Orange County, south of L.A. When did Southern California want to emulate the urban sprawl of Chicago and New York? It disturbed me that Irvine started getting high-rise residences and now Los Angeles wants to outdo the Windy City and Big Apple in having the tallest building? It's a race So. Cal never should have participated in. End of my rant.

[Neddy]

I wonder what kind of chaos that new "tallest west of mississippi" building is going to add on to already congested K town traffic once that monster is up.

I share the same sentiments even though I reside in Orange County, south of L.A. When did Southern California want to emulate the urban sprawl of Chicago and New York? It disturbed me that Irvine started getting high-rise residences and now Los Angeles wants to outdo the Windy City and Big Apple in having the tallest building? It's a race So. Cal never should have participated in. End of my rant.

especially once you count in the fact that NYC and Chicago has a long tradition of efficient public transit, and LA is still in its infancy of its subway railing system. i dunno. i do like high-rises and its urban convenience, but LA doesn't seem to fit that mold at all. the greater LA metro has too wide of areas to cover with underground subway system to be truly useful to most people, there will still be a ton of cars on the road for commute and higher density of population in some of the most crowded parts of LA seems... counterproductive.

hey but what do i care, right? i live in a small town in rural Oregon and if there are 3 cars on the road, they call that a "traffic" around here.

[TheNewEra]

All this building talk makes me want to play Sims. Anyway wonder what will happen if Dudley is traded to his banner spot? Will whoever we get take the spot or will the next player up get it? I would assume a bit of loyalty would be taken into account and Collison should get the spot being an important piece even though i suspect him to decline his player option and chase money next year.

[mttwlsn16]

Dudley needs his banner taken down

[Quake Griffin]

I wonder what kind of chaos that new "tallest west of mississippi" building is going to add on to already congested K town traffic once that monster is up.

I share the same sentiments even though I reside in Orange County, south of L.A. When did Southern California want to emulate the urban sprawl of Chicago and New York? It disturbed me that Irvine started getting high-rise residences and now Los Angeles wants to outdo the Windy City and Big Apple in having the tallest building? It's a race So. Cal never should have participated in. End of my rant.

especially once you count in the fact that NYC and Chicago has a long tradition of efficient public transit, and LA is still in its infancy of its subway railing system. i dunno. i do like high-rises and its urban convenience, but LA doesn't seem to fit that mold at all. the greater LA metro has too wide of areas to cover with underground subway system to be truly useful to most people, there will still be a ton of cars on the road for commute and higher density of population in some of the most crowded parts of LA seems... counterproductive.

hey but what do i care, right? i live in a small town in rural Oregon and if there are 3 cars on the road, they call that a "traffic" around here.

#1 LA used to have public transit like that before you or I were born.

#2
you don't need underground subways. those are for people traveling within the city and nearby.
Chicago has the Red, Orange and Bluelines within the city.
then it has the Metra train with less stops to get you in from the furthest suburbs and into the downtown area.
(i truly understand that u just said theyre way more efficient...just saying)

that's what LA needs....more than subways...a Metra-like train that can get ppl from the deep parts of the Valley like Valencia, Ventura...to the places going east like San Bernadino and down to Anaheim so they can have people actually working in the city.
it's honestly a project I think LA should take up...more than that stupid rail on Exposition that runs near my house.

LA was dead...everything cool about it was things that weren't it - Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, ______________ Beach etc. etc.
it's about time we bring more people and their interests back to the city.


oh...
I just wont be there to pay for all these projects. Good luck with that whoever lives there now.
hahaha.

ninja edit:
http://metrarail.com/content/metra/en/h ... m_map.html
here's a map of Chicago's Metra system.
reaches more than an hour out in each direction.

[mkwest]

Anyway wonder what will happen if Dudley is traded to his banner spot? Will whoever we get take the spot or will the next player up get it?

All of the players that are currently up there either have a few more seasons under contract or figure to be here long-term. The easiest thing to do would be to replace him with whoever was acquired. If not that, then it could be Collison for the remainder of the season.

[mttwlsn16]

All this building talk makes me want to play Sims. Anyway wonder what will happen if Dudley is traded to his banner spot? Will whoever we get take the spot or will the next player up get it? I would assume a bit of loyalty would be taken into account and Collison should get the spot being an important piece even though i suspect him to decline his player option and chase money next year.

Burn that banner!

[Forte IV]

Dudley sucks just as much on 2k as he does in real life.

[Neddy]

#1 LA used to have public transit like that before you or I were born.

#2
you don't need underground subways. those are for people traveling within the city and nearby.
Chicago has the Red, Orange and Bluelines within the city.
then it has the Metra train with less stops to get you in from the furthest suburbs and into the downtown area.
(i truly understand that u just said theyre way more efficient...just saying)

that's what LA needs....more than subways...a Metra-like train that can get ppl from the deep parts of the Valley like Valencia, Ventura...to the places going east like San Bernadino and down to Anaheim so they can have people actually working in the city.
it's honestly a project I think LA should take up...more than that stupid rail on Exposition that runs near my house.

LA was dead...everything cool about it was things that weren't it - Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, ______________ Beach etc. etc.
it's about time we bring more people and their interests back to the city.


oh...
I just wont be there to pay for all these projects. Good luck with that whoever lives there now.
hahaha.

ninja edit:
http://metrarail.com/content/metra/en/h ... m_map.html
here's a map of Chicago's Metra system.
reaches more than an hour out in each direction.

and this is the subway map to Seoul, South Korea where i lived until 15.



i don't think LA ever had a public transit like this at any given time of the history of the city...do you see how many lines there are in that map? and they have bus lines that go pass 1000. we still have a long way to go, and as far behind Chicago or NYC is to Seoul, LA is not even close to Chicago you posted... but i get ya, don't mean to sound negative at all......

anywho, i live in a town of less than 10,000 now. we don't even have a single bus that runs through the town.

the point of all this was that LA wasn't exactly planned out from a century ago to accommodate a city full of high rises. I agree with you 100% that subway doesn't have to be the only way, a over the ground rail way can go a long way in southern california. however, to cover that region effectively where let's say, a 50% of the population can leave their cars in their drive way, is next to impossible. Los Angeles is the pure embodiment of what Robert Moses and his vision of a modern day America should look like a century ago. i don't agree with who he was or what he had planned, but what has been done is what we have now over a century. that was the point i was trying to express with my early posts. no matter what the government of LA try to do from here, if high rise residence and business is the future norm of LA, the traffic will be incomprehensible.

[Quake Griffin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Railway

peep this.

LA transit that died out in the 60s.
not as extensive as the Korean map but solid for people maneuvering the main parts of LA of that time.
I can only assume if we kept this system it would have gotten more extensive as LA shifted its main point of business and entertainment from Central Ave. to what....Hollywood? Beverly Hills? Just not Central Ave. anymore dammit.

[Neddy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Railway

peep this.

LA transit that died out in the 60s.
not as extensive as the Korean map but solid for people maneuvering the main parts of LA of that time.
I can only assume if we kept this system it would have gotten more extensive as LA shifted its main point of business and entertainment from Central Ave. to what....Hollywood? Beverly Hills? Just not Central Ave. anymore dammit.

hey brother i don't disagree with what you are saying, and i wish what was done in the past was still being carried on and expanded upon.

the problem once again, was the power to be saw what was fit for them against what was fit for the masses. a good, efficient public transit meant less dollars coming in from their stocks in oil refinery companies and car manufacturers, no goddamn way they will let their mighty dollar go to waste in the name of progress. just like how my fellow naturalized citizen Arnold the Governator pulled a classic bait and switch from lowering the emission and conversion towards zero emission electric cars to ethanol added crap.

but the way LA is set up now, i just don't see how we can make high rise buildings condensed in downtown and adjacent LA area and still solve the traffic issue. that is all brother.

[og15]

Just score more points than the other team

[Neddy]

great start

[Neddy]

12-0 and a free throw coming.

[og15]

Sheesh, just blew up out of the gate

[mkwest]

Good to see CP knock down his first jumper.

[Neddy]

3 free throws coming. looks like a blow out. lets see if we can put them away for good early