Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 4

[hands11]

I hope they take EG and not CCJ or Nivek.

Me and CCJ are a package deal. But, they'll either need to let us telecommute or pay a TON of money to get us (I'll just speak for CCJ in this case) to move to Ohio.

Money talks. You know the rest.

I will be in Cleveland before you can say Aloha, at the right price. Nivek, the best part is I am very comfortable staying in my lane. Scouting the draft and exploring free agents is my favorite thing. What's not working with personnel on hand and who to trade is about as deep as I want to get. I also would love to be an educational consultant and mentor to any player or family member. Faith based stuff I am open discussing. Encourage young guys and even be a bridge between coach and players, because confidence and trust are important.

Tonight, might take my son to see Hawaii play UC Santa Barbara. Alan Williams looks like Hot Plate Williams on TV. However, his PER is 38. I want to see him face a good UH front line.

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You two need to get a room.

[tontoz]

Apparently this scene from the Lakers game was the final straw for Chris Grant. The Lakers ran out of players and Chris Kaman decided to take a nap on the depeleted bench.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Yes. That's why I threw in the Novak comparison. He could still help us right now as a situational stretch four. He'd have to get stronger to become a regular rotation player. Still, he's a 2nd round pick who can actually help a team.

Picking the wrong guy in the second round is pretty low on the List of Ernie Grievances that I keep in my wallet. I think Rice was a reasonable selection for where he was taken and it's way, way too early to draw any conclusions as to whether or not he'll help. EVen if he proves to be the wrong pick, it's still pretty low the (laminated) list.

Rice was a bad move. I think the Wizards severely mishandled the move.

http://www.82games.com/1314/1314MIL.HTM

Within that link that shows Wolters on top, a click on Wolters' individual stats show he can play SG and PG. That's what the Wizards need. He could play equally well with Wall or Beal.

Wolters did way too much over four years to trade for a player who could not stay at Ga Tech.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Me and CCJ are a package deal. But, they'll either need to let us telecommute or pay a TON of money to get us (I'll just speak for CCJ in this case) to move to Ohio.

Money talks. You know the rest.

I will be in Cleveland before you can say Aloha, at the right price. Nivek, the best part is I am very comfortable staying in my lane. Scouting the draft and exploring free agents is my favorite thing. What's not working with personnel on hand and who to trade is about as deep as I want to get. I also would love to be an educational consultant and mentor to any player or family member. Faith based stuff I am open discussing. Encourage young guys and even be a bridge between coach and players, because confidence and trust are important.

Tonight, might take my son to see Hawaii play UC Santa Barbara. Alan Williams looks like Hot Plate Williams on TV. However, his PER is 38. I want to see him face a good UH front line.

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You two need to get a room.

If Kevin and I did, we have a lot of catching up to do. We have a lot of talented kids between us. His oldest son I hope would play for my youngest. My son recently began playing trumpet. We both are big family guys.

hands, that's a great idea.

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[fishercob]

Yes. That's why I threw in the Novak comparison. He could still help us right now as a situational stretch four. He'd have to get stronger to become a regular rotation player. Still, he's a 2nd round pick who can actually help a team.

Picking the wrong guy in the second round is pretty low on the List of Ernie Grievances that I keep in my wallet. I think Rice was a reasonable selection for where he was taken and it's way, way too early to draw any conclusions as to whether or not he'll help. EVen if he proves to be the wrong pick, it's still pretty low the (laminated) list.

Rice was a bad move. I think the Wizards severely mishandled the move.

http://www.82games.com/1314/1314MIL.HTM

Within that link that shows Wolters on top, a click on Wolters' individual stats show he can play SG and PG. That's what the Wizards need. He could play equally well with Wall or Beal.

Wolters did way too much over four years to trade for a player who could not stay at Ga Tech.

There's t he CCJ certitude I know and love.

[dckingsfan]

feelings about Detroit's move? Horrible GM hires horrible coach and then fires horrible coach...

[FAH1223]

Cheeks being fired sets the stage for Dumars to be fired in April or May.

Pistons would be wise to get a new front office team.

[payitforward]

Take Ernie Cavs Take Ernie!!!

I hope they take EG and not CCJ or Nivek.

Me and CCJ are a package deal. But, they'll either need to let us telecommute or pay a TON of money to get us (I'll just speak for CCJ in this case) to move to Ohio.

I thought CCJ already lives in Ohio? Oh wait a minute, that's Oahu....

[verbal8]

Cheeks being fired sets the stage for Dumars to be fired in April or May.

Pistons would be wise to get a new front office team.

I wonder if Monroe is available for a desperation trade. I think moving Josh Smith would be the smarter move, but it would be admitting a critical mistake.

The Wizards are in a position to offer a quick fix - Nene, Ariza or Gortat. Even if they dealt Ariza and Gortat for Monroe and filler, the Wizards should still be able to make the play-offs.

[Rafael122]

Cheeks being fired sets the stage for Dumars to be fired in April or May.

Pistons would be wise to get a new front office team.

I wonder if Monroe is available for a desperation trade. I think moving Josh Smith would be the smarter move, but it would be admitting a critical mistake.

The Wizards are in a position to offer a quick fix - Nene, Ariza or Gortat. Even if they dealt Ariza and Gortat for Monroe and filler, the Wizards should still be able to make the play-offs.

They don't need to trade both guys, Monroe is still on his rookie deal.

[hands11]

http://www.slcdunk.com/2014/2/10/539399 ... ce-edition

Nice read on projected trades around the league. Here was the big one ...

The Trade:

Russell Westbrook and Kendrick Perkins for Jameer Nelson, Nikola Vucevic, and Arron Afflalo
The Rationale:

I doubt very highly that the Thunder are thinking of trading Russell Westbrook, but now might be the right time to consider it, with how well the current Thunder team is playing in his absence. If the Thunder did put Westbrook on the block, they might be able to get more overall talent back, but this trade, at least to me, gives the Thunder just what they need to make a strong push to the finals. Steven Adams is too young and inexperienced to take over all of Kendrick Perkins minutes, but Vucevic has a lot more experience and starter minutes. Jameer Nelson would also provide veteran leadership in a bench role and has an unguaranteed contract past this season. Arron Afflalo would fit in perfectly this season off the bench as well and would be a natural replacement for Thabo Sefolosha after this summer. Orlando gives up a lot for Westbrook, but he is a top 10 player in the league and would probably look great when he isn't competing for possessions with the best player in the NBA. But the bottom line: MORE KEVIN DURANT! And that's a good thing.

[verbal8]

Would an Ariza/Harrison Barnes swap make sense for the Wizards?

Golden State would add depth to secure their play-off position and possibly move up a couple slots in the seeding. Ariza is a probably the best player available in the trade market without giving up a draft pick.

Barnes isn't very good, but he is young(21) and cheap for a couple years.

If Golden State is willing to pay the tax they can use their TPE to make the deal work.

[mohammed10]

Would an Ariza/Harrison Barnes swap make sense for the Wizards?

Golden State would add depth to secure their play-off position and possibly move up a couple slots in the seeding. Ariza is a probably the best player available in the trade market without giving up a draft pick.

Barnes isn't very good, but he is young(21) and cheap for a couple years.

If Golden State is willing to pay the tax they can use their TPE to make the deal work.

verbal (or anyone that may know)-

What happened to Barnes? I don't follow GS regularly enough to know, but I recall him having a good rookie campaign last season. He seems to be mired on Mark Jackson's bench.

Any insight?

[verbal8]

Would an Ariza/Harrison Barnes swap make sense for the Wizards?

Golden State would add depth to secure their play-off position and possibly move up a couple slots in the seeding. Ariza is a probably the best player available in the trade market without giving up a draft pick.

Barnes isn't very good, but he is young(21) and cheap for a couple years.

If Golden State is willing to pay the tax they can use their TPE to make the deal work.

verbal (or anyone that may know)-

What happened to Barnes? I don't follow GS regularly enough to know, but I recall him having a good rookie campaign last season. He seems to be mired on Mark Jackson's bench.

Any insight?

I don't follow the Warriors that closely, but it looks like the guys in front of him - Klay Thompson and Iguodala - are playing a ton of minutes. Crawford hasn't been playing a ton, but he might be cutting into his minutes some. His season average is 29 mpg, although from a glance he is probably getting in the mid-20s at this point.

[mohammed10]

Would an Ariza/Harrison Barnes swap make sense for the Wizards?

Golden State would add depth to secure their play-off position and possibly move up a couple slots in the seeding. Ariza is a probably the best player available in the trade market without giving up a draft pick.

Barnes isn't very good, but he is young(21) and cheap for a couple years.

If Golden State is willing to pay the tax they can use their TPE to make the deal work.

verbal (or anyone that may know)-

What happened to Barnes? I don't follow GS regularly enough to know, but I recall him having a good rookie campaign last season. He seems to be mired on Mark Jackson's bench.

Any insight?

I don't follow the Warriors that closely, but it looks like the guys in front of him - Klay Thompson and Iguodala - are playing a ton of minutes. Crawford hasn't been playing a ton, but he might be cutting into his minutes some. His season average is 29 mpg, although from a glance he is probably getting in the mid-20s at this point.

verbal - just to be clear, I would do your proposed trade (assuming nothing is wrong with Barnes physically, etc.). Though nate and others would state we're giving up our #1 defensive stopper, I think we clarify the 3-spot and give maybe find another team to unload Porter or Webster. At the very least, it gets Porter on the floor more to showcase his * cough, cough * 'talents'.

[mohammed10]

Looks like Detroit will match max contract offers for Monroe...

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... reg-monroe

[verbal8]

Looks like Detroit will match max contract offers for Monroe...

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... reg-monroe

I think it is a smoke screen to attempt to increase his trade value. I think what Detroit would love to do is move Josh Smith, but I doubt they get an appealing offer.

[Ruzious]

verbal (or anyone that may know)-

What happened to Barnes? I don't follow GS regularly enough to know, but I recall him having a good rookie campaign last season. He seems to be mired on Mark Jackson's bench.

Any insight?

I don't follow the Warriors that closely, but it looks like the guys in front of him - Klay Thompson and Iguodala - are playing a ton of minutes. Crawford hasn't been playing a ton, but he might be cutting into his minutes some. His season average is 29 mpg, although from a glance he is probably getting in the mid-20s at this point.

verbal - just to be clear, I would do your proposed trade (assuming nothing is wrong with Barnes physically, etc.). Though nate and others would state we're giving up our #1 defensive stopper, I think we clarify the 3-spot and give maybe find another team to unload Porter or Webster. At the very least, it gets Porter on the floor more to showcase his * cough, cough * 'talents'.

I'm amazed that people continue to ridiculously overrate HarBar. After 2 mediocre college seasons and going on 2 mediocre to bad NBA seasons, people still think he just needs a chance. Put it this way, if Porter isn't better than Barnes next season, we can make it official that Porter's a bust.

[mohammed10]

I'm amazed that people continue to ridiculously overrate HarBar. After 2 mediocre college seasons and going on 2 mediocre to bad NBA seasons, people still think he just needs a chance. Put it this way, if Porter isn't better than Barnes next season, we can make it official that Porter's a bust.

...which begs the question: would you rather have Barnes or Porter?

[verbal8]

I'm amazed that people continue to ridiculously overrate HarBar. After 2 mediocre college seasons and going on 2 mediocre to bad NBA seasons, people still think he just needs a chance. Put it this way, if Porter isn't better than Barnes next season, we can make it official that Porter's a bust.

...which begs the question: would you rather have Barnes or Porter?

At this point Porter, since his college production was promising. At this point that still weighs more heavily than 200 minutes of NBA basketball. It is a bit concerning that he hasn't earned more playing time.

An interesting comparison is Webster and Barnes as 21 year olds -
http://bkref.com/tiny/jtxtI

Barnes would clearly be the back-up, but you can live with paying him $3 to $4 million for the next couple years. He is young enough he should improve some with a good work ethic, but I don't think his improvement will be dramatic. You probably let him walk after his rookie deal, but at that point you know what you have in Porter.

Maybe not my first choice, but it seems better than paying the $7 to $8 million a year it will likely take to retain Ariza, assuming he even wants to stay.