Trade away Smith

[Hotmayo]

people wanna trade smith but ever since we benched Kcp for someone who can score and shoot at the 2 we started winning games. Oh and josh is limiting his shots which means maybe he wants to win who knows but he's a valuable player. This trade talk is the biggest nonsense it's all over this forum and it's gotten really annoying to read.

[MrBigShot]

Jeff Green is not garbage. He's a very talented player, albeit an underachieving one. In the right situation he could be a terrific starter. He's having a solid year, but probably hasn't shot it as well as he's capable of.

[ALL HAIL]

How deperate are Pistons to unload Smith's contract?

Woud they be willing to package him before the draft with a top 8 pick ... just to come from underneath that contract?

Is that, quite possibly, the ONLY WAY to trade him (the next two years) ... with a good pick?

Is that too much to give up?

[BadMofoPimp]

I seriously think Houston would consider Asik and Lin for JSmooth and an expiring aka CV or Stuck.

I would do this because Asik and Lin are very attractive expirings next year while they would both contribute now also.

[Laimbeer]

Smith is a better player than Green, but not by a lot. Figure the better position and contract, it's worth considering.

I wouldn't trade Smith for expirings. He's a borderline all-star with a halfway reasonable contract.

[jakebernat]

green is a tweener. he's best suited as a 3 with below average defense and decent perimeter scoring abilities. imo we'd be selling ourselves way short. jeff green isn't exactly the lockdown defender and sniper we need at the 3. in fact, he's neither of those things...

we shouldn't make a move just for the sake of doing it. green could be a decent fit, but we could easily get similar talent for much cheaper. at this point, joe should be seriously kicking the tires on a smith-deng swap.

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[BadMofoPimp]

Smith is a better player than Green, but not by a lot. Figure the better position and contract, it's worth considering.

I wouldn't trade Smith for expirings. He's a borderline all-star with a halfway reasonable contract.

Smith is a borderline all-star at PF. True.

[Billl]

"Green is a stud"

I almost spit out my coffee laughing at that one. He had the "potential" label, but at 27 years old, that should be long gone.

[Clarity]

Smith is a better player than Green, but not by a lot. Figure the better position and contract, it's worth considering.

I wouldn't trade Smith for expirings. He's a borderline all-star with a halfway reasonable contract.

Smith is a borderline all-star at PF. True.

Josh Smith has never been an All Star in his now 10 year career.

He is what he is.

[Billl]

"How deperate are Pistons to unload Smith's contract?" Not desperate at all. Our cap situation is fine.

"Woud they be willing to package him before the draft with a top 8 pick ... just to come from underneath that contract?" Absolutely not. Besides, we don't even have our pick to trade.

"Is that, quite possibly, the ONLY WAY to trade him (the next two years) ... with a good pick?" Not at all. The guy is a heck of a pf signed to a pretty reasonable deal. The team will not dump him for nothing, let alone give up assets in the process.

"Is that too much to give up? " Obviously yes

If there was any doubt about this before, the cheeks firing should have settled it. Gore thinks the team is underachieving - ie they have the talent to be better. I can't see any way where he would give away talent at this point without major talent coming back.

[Notanoob]

How deperate are Pistons to unload Smith's contract?

Woud they be willing to package him before the draft with a top 8 pick ... just to come from underneath that contract?

Is that, quite possibly, the ONLY WAY to trade him (the next two years) ... with a good pick?

Is that too much to give up?

We're not that desperate and that certainly isn't the only way to trade him considering how the Raptors moved Bargs and Gay. Smith is better than both of them. Besides, we can't trade a draft pick for a couple of years until we've transferred the one we owe to the Bobcats.

[ALL HAIL]

How deperate are Pistons to unload Smith's contract?

Woud they be willing to package him before the draft with a top 8 pick ... just to come from underneath that contract?

Is that, quite possibly, the ONLY WAY to trade him (the next two years) ... with a good pick?

Is that too much to give up?

We're not that desperate and that certainly isn't the only way to trade him considering how the Raptors moved Bargs and Gay. Smith is better than both of them. Besides, we can't trade a draft pick for a couple of years until we've transferred the one we owe to the Bobcats.

Yeah, but Smith's deal is much worse than Bargnani's or Gay's.

In two years it won't be.

Also, although you're right about trading a pick, the Pistons could concievably draft for someone else, then package Smith with the drafted player. Right?

How much capspace would Pistons have if they gave up Smith for nothing?

[Notanoob]

He's getting 13.5 a year.

Smith's deal is relatively long (3 more years after this one), but he's also an actually valuable player. I'd say value wise he couldn't be significantly worse than the abysmal Bargs, and he managed to get a first round pick and two seconds IIRC.

My point really was that there is always a team dumb enough for you to move a player.

[ALL HAIL]

I agree that Smith could be valuable, but realistically he won't be able to be traded fot at least a year and a half.

How much space would be created by dumping him though?

[GooseDiddy]

New news today, taking my original deal in a different direction

DET out - Smith
DET in- Green

BOS out- Green and Bass
BOS in- Smith and Harrison Barnes

GS out- Barnes
GS in- Bass

[Phenomenonsense]

New news today, taking my original deal in a different direction

DET out - Smith
DET in- Green

BOS out- Green and Bass
BOS in- Smith and Harrison Barnes

GS out- Barnes
GS in- Bass

Lmao. Why would GS trade Barnes for Bass???

[GooseDiddy]

New news today, taking my original deal in a different direction

DET out - Smith
DET in- Green

BOS out- Green and Bass
BOS in- Smith and Harrison Barnes

GS out- Barnes
GS in- Bass

Lmao. Why would GS trade Barnes for Bass???

They're supposedly interested in Bass, and listening to offers for Barnes.

Barnes- 10.3 ppg, 1.4 apg, 4.1 rpg PER = 10.37
Bass- 10.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1 blkpg PER = 15.05

[BadMofoPimp]

New news today, taking my original deal in a different direction

DET out - Smith
DET in- Green

BOS out- Green and Bass
BOS in- Smith and Harrison Barnes

GS out- Barnes
GS in- Bass

Barnes for Bass, no way!