The Trade Thread

[joeposh]

Any chance we can get our hands on Ariza? I think his defense and outside shooting would be a great addition, the Wizards are supposedly shopping him (without wanting to take back long term deals) and his salary is similar to our expirings...

[Kilo]

^If Washington wants a stretch four type than CV for Ariza would match as expiring for expiring, but CV's numbers this year doesn't make that look too good from the Wizards perspective. CV's only value will be his expiring contract.

[sc8581]

Any chance we can get our hands on Ariza? I think his defense and outside shooting would be a great addition, the Wizards are supposedly shopping him (without wanting to take back long term deals) and his salary is similar to our expirings...

I think it would be tough, Monroe is too much to give up for him, an expiring isn't enough and we don't have the type of guy or pick to go along with an expiring to make it enticing for them. Stuckey could be a guy they have interest in but they would likely want more and that makes it not worth it for us to rent him for 30 games and the playoffs.

[joeposh]

^If Washington wants a stretch four type than CV for Ariza would match as expiring for expiring, but CV's numbers this year doesn't make that look too good from the Wizards perspective. CV's only value will be his expiring contract.

Yeah, that's my "... and nothing of value was lost" dream scenario.

We could obviously offer Stuckey instead since the contracts are similar, but I feel like we should be able to get some longer term value for him given how he's played this season.

[Notanoob]

Any chance we can get our hands on Ariza? I think his defense and outside shooting would be a great addition, the Wizards are supposedly shopping him (without wanting to take back long term deals) and his salary is similar to our expirings...

I think it would be tough, Monroe is too much to give up for him, an expiring isn't enough and we don't have the type of guy or pick to go along with an expiring to make it enticing for them. Stuckey could be a guy they have interest in but they would likely want more and that makes it not worth it for us to rent him for 30 games and the playoffs.

They need a backup PG. Maybe Stuckey and Bynum for Ariza?

[theBigLip]

Harsher tax penalties bro, what do you mean expirings aren't as valuable?

Teams can't hand out the same sort of mega-deals that they used to hand out, so there are fewer bad contracts and they aren't as desperate to lose them as they used to be. Plus, a ton of teams have expirings and cap space to sell, so the value had dropped.

This. Which is unfortunate. Thought Stuckey and CV would give us a big trade this year.

[sc8581]

Any chance we can get our hands on Ariza? I think his defense and outside shooting would be a great addition, the Wizards are supposedly shopping him (without wanting to take back long term deals) and his salary is similar to our expirings...

I think it would be tough, Monroe is too much to give up for him, an expiring isn't enough and we don't have the type of guy or pick to go along with an expiring to make it enticing for them. Stuckey could be a guy they have interest in but they would likely want more and that makes it not worth it for us to rent him for 30 games and the playoffs.

They need a backup PG. Maybe Stuckey and Bynum for Ariza?

Nobody wants Bynum, you guy need to stop with that. I already said they would have interest in Stuckey but I don't think he would be enough to get Ariza and we don't have anything else of value worth offering when he's likely a 30 game rental for us.

[Notanoob]

Send them Jennings to be their sixth man. Sign Lowry in the offseason, he's a better shooter and plays excellent defense. (Pipe Dream)

[Natopher]

Supposedly the Wizards are trying to trade Ariza. I wonder if they'd take on Smith for Ariza and Vesely. Probably unrealistic, but possibly not.

[princeofpalace]

Supposedly the Wizards are trying to trade Ariza. I wonder if they'd take on Smith for Ariza and Vesely. Probably unrealistic, but possibly not.

I've been wanting Ariza for a while, he's a great fit on this team. Id love to do Ariza for SMith or Stuck for Smith, or even just sign Ariza in the offseason. Singler, is a solid F but we aren't going to get very far with him as a starter or primary bench player IMO.

[Piston Pete]

CV/Bynum for Ariza/Vesely? Perfect trade for us....but I fear the Wiz would want more incentive coming back their way even though they'd be getting the two things they need/want; a backup PG and a stretch-4 to bring off the bench.

Wall / Bynum
Beal / Temple / Rice Jr.
Webster / Porter / Singleton
Nene / CV / Booker
Gortat / Seraphin

[ARoS]

Any way we can trade Smith straight-up for a piece of crumbly excrement? I haven't run it through trade-checker.

[jaredtyshaf]

CV/Bynum for Ariza/Vesely? Perfect trade for us....but I fear the Wiz would want more incentive coming back their way even though they'd be getting the two things they need/want; a backup PG and a stretch-4 to bring off the bench.

Wall / Bynum
Beal / Temple / Rice Jr.
Webster / Porter / Singleton
Nene / CV / Booker
Gortat / Seraphin

Ariza and CV are both expirings, only way they are trading Ariza for another expiring is if they are getting an upgrade. Thats not CV.

[Piston Pete]

CV/Bynum for Ariza/Vesely? Perfect trade for us....but I fear the Wiz would want more incentive coming back their way even though they'd be getting the two things they need/want; a backup PG and a stretch-4 to bring off the bench.

Wall / Bynum
Beal / Temple / Rice Jr.
Webster / Porter / Singleton
Nene / CV / Booker
Gortat / Seraphin

Ariza and CV are both expirings, only way they are trading Ariza for another expiring is if they are getting an upgrade. Thats not CV.

But Bynum is a pretty big upgrade over Vesely....

[jaredtyshaf]

CV/Bynum for Ariza/Vesely? Perfect trade for us....but I fear the Wiz would want more incentive coming back their way even though they'd be getting the two things they need/want; a backup PG and a stretch-4 to bring off the bench.

Wall / Bynum
Beal / Temple / Rice Jr.
Webster / Porter / Singleton
Nene / CV / Booker
Gortat / Seraphin

Ariza and CV are both expirings, only way they are trading Ariza for another expiring is if they are getting an upgrade. Thats not CV.

But Bynum is a pretty big upgrade over Vesely....

Not really. Vesely stills has potential and Bynum is an undersized SG essentially.

[Neptune]

We need to get Waiters and Green. Let Waiters start and play Green as our 6th man.

[The Penguin]

Monroe, Jennings, Datome, Mitchell, future 1st

For

Rondo, Bass



Celtics save money and get a bunch of young pieces. We build around Drummond/Rondo/Smith.

[cochiseuofm]

I posted this one a while ago:

DET trades: Greg Monroe, Charlie Villanueva, Rodney Stuckey
DET gets: Otto Porter, Eric Gordon, Jan Vesely, WAS 1st

WAS trades: Otto Porter, Nene, Jan Vesely
WAS gets: Greg Monroe, Charlie Villanueva, Rodney Stuckey, conditional 1st (lottery protected with diminishing protections)

NOR trades: Eric Gordon
NOR gets: Nene

I know we aren't trading Monroe so before you bash me on that, I came up with this before all the recent news...but I don't think it is terrible for any of the 3 teams. Pistons get a SF who went #3 who still has a ton of talent / potential, a SG/SF who can perform now, and a 1st round pick out of it. Wizards get Monroe to pair with Beal and Wall and open up a ton of cap space this summer to keep him and resign other key players (or try to get other free agents). And the Hornets, who may need more incentive, swap their bad contract for a player in a glut position on their team for a bad contract at a position of need.

[Damon_3388]

I posted this one a while ago:

DET trades: Greg Monroe, Charlie Villanueva, Rodney Stuckey
DET gets: Otto Porter, Eric Gordon, Jan Vesely, WAS 1st

WAS trades: Otto Porter, Nene, Jan Vesely
WAS gets: Greg Monroe, Charlie Villanueva, Rodney Stuckey, conditional 1st (lottery protected with diminishing protections)

NOR trades: Eric Gordon
NOR gets: Nene

I know we aren't trading Monroe so before you bash me on that, I came up with this before all the recent news...but I don't think it is terrible for any of the 3 teams. Pistons get a SF who went #3 who still has a ton of talent / potential, a SG/SF who can perform now, and a 1st round pick out of it. Wizards get Monroe to pair with Beal and Wall and open up a ton of cap space this summer to keep him and resign other key players (or try to get other free agents). And the Hornets, who may need more incentive, swap their bad contract for a player in a glut position on their team for a bad contract at a position of need.

Don't mind it TBH. Hard to say whether the other teams would go for it, especially Washington, who are suddenly in "win now" mode (even though we know they aren't going to actually win anything).

[paQo the BAWSER]

Jennings+Smith x Lowry+Ross+Hayes+Amir