The Trade Thread

[Damon_3388]

Obviously would be a pretty minor deal, but does anyone think we should make an offer to the Pels for Pierre Jackson? He's absolutely dominating the D-League this year, and would be an upgrade with more upside over someone like Will Bynum off the bench.

IMO he's all hype, someone like Charlotte or Cleveland will get him and he'll be exposed. There are better options if we want someone like that

I suppose it comes back to trying to gauge what level of play the D-League actually is. You see guys putting up some ridiculous numbers there, way beyond what they ever did in college, so it kind of makes me skeptical. Actually made a thread about it a while back.. Still, I'm willing to explore and see what he has.

[Timmaytime]

Obviously would be a pretty minor deal, but does anyone think we should make an offer to the Pels for Pierre Jackson? He's absolutely dominating the D-League this year, and would be an upgrade with more upside over someone like Will Bynum off the bench.

IMO he's all hype, someone like Charlotte or Cleveland will get him and he'll be exposed. There are better options if we want someone like that

I suppose it comes back to trying to gauge what level of play the D-League actually is. You see guys putting up some ridiculous numbers there, way beyond what they ever did in college, so it kind of makes me skeptical. Actually made a thread about it a while back.. Still, I'm willing to explore and see what he has.

It would be pretty low risk so I suppose there's no reason not to, wouldn't want to give up much however. Could be an okay heat check guy.

[Damon_3388]

Not a trade, but I wouldn't mind us signing E.J. Singler and giving him some minutes late in the year. I know he was part of our Summer League team, but he just won the D-League 3-point shootout, and is averaging 14.1/4.7/1.2 on .473/.475/.857 shooting in the D-League this year. Might be a handy shooter off the bench for 10-15 minutes per game.

[Notanoob]

Mayo and Ilyasova for JSmoove.

[sc8581]

Mayo and Ilyasova for JSmoove.

I'm definitely intrigued, not sure if Milwaukee would have interest or not, don't know what they're trying to do at the moment. Maybe throwing in CV or Stuckey for Larry Sanders to give them some cap relief might peak their interest but I don't know if they are regretting signing him already or not.

[Notanoob]

They want to keep Sanders, they have faith that he'll recover. Ersan and Mayo OTOH, are having bad years and are probably movable. Since they're interested in Gordon, for some mysterious reason, Smith should seem like an option to them as well.

I'm banking on their management being sort of dumb and trying to be a treadmill team.

[DBC10]

Mayo and Ilyasova for JSmoove.

I could definitely see them being very interested in that.

[Snakebites]

Mayo and Ilyasova for JSmoove.

I could definitely see them being very interested in that.

Why? Because their front office isn't very smart?

Its certainly not a good move for them.

[paQo the BAWSER]

Mayo and Ilyasova for JSmoove.

I could definitely see them being very interested in that.

Why? Because their front office isn't very smart?

Its certainly not a good move for them.

I really think OJ Mayo could be a 20ppp player in this team

[Kilo]

So when does the first shoe drop and a move is made? I doubt the Pistons do anything, but I'm talking more league wide. Will this deadline be mostly talk and little in terms of actual moves?

Andre Miller to Washington makes sense. I think Philly will make the big move of the deadline - I don't know to whom though. I think the Lakers tank out by trading Gasol to PHX for Okafor and we'll hear shortly thereafter than Kobe is being shut down and Nash is finished as well.

[ComboGuardCity]

Ainge is smart and knows his job is secure. Its time to sell hard on Green and Rondo in Boston.

[sc8581]

So when does the first shoe drop and a move is made? I doubt the Pistons do anything, but I'm talking more league wide. Will this deadline be mostly talk and little in terms of actual moves?

Andre Miller to Washington makes sense. I think Philly will make the big move of the deadline - I don't know to whom though. I think the Lakers tank out by trading Gasol to PHX for Okafor and we'll hear shortly thereafter than Kobe is being shut down and Nash is finished as well.

I don't see how Philly is even relevant since they don't have any good players to trade, Hawes, Turner and Young are all below-average starters and need perfect situations to be successful.

[Damon_3388]

I really think OJ Mayo could be a 20ppp player in this team

If O.J. Mayo is a 20ppg scorer on your team (as in, he's chucking up enough shots to make 20ppg), you're probably not a very good team, and you're probably not in any better situation than we're in now.

[Q00]

Mayo and Ilyasova for JSmoove.

I could definitely see them being very interested in that.

Why? Because their front office isn't very smart?

Its certainly not a good move for them.

The undervaluing of Smith on this board is becoming a joke. Are you really trying to say that Mayo/Ilyasova are better than Smith? c'mon...

Even if you hate Smith for his low FG% and high FGAs this season, both Mayo and Ilyasova are shooting even lower % and take 7 more shots combined.

Both have lower career FG% as well.

This schtick of no team in the league would trade anything for Smith like he's the worst player in history has really gotten old.

I'm not saying Hammond would have interest in that deal. I have no idea what he wants, but in terms of pure value Smith is by far the best player of those 3, and anytime you can get the best player in a trade its a good move.

[paQo the BAWSER]

I could definitely see them being very interested in that.

Why? Because their front office isn't very smart?

Its certainly not a good move for them.

The undervaluing of Smith on this board is becoming a joke. Are you really trying to say that Mayo/Ilyasova are better than Smith? c'mon...

Even if you hate Smith for his low FG% and high FGAs this season, both Mayo and Ilyasova are shooting even lower % and take 7 more shots combined.

Both have lower career FG% as well.

This schtick of no team in the league would trade anything for Smith like he's the worst player in history has really gotten old.

I'm not saying Hammond would have interest in that deal. I have no idea what he wants, but in terms of pure value Smith is by far the best player of those 3, and anytime you can get the best player in a trade its a good move.

Smith is better player than Mayo and than Ersan, but for this team, they're better players. We need shooters, and Mayo and Ilyasova are damn good (Ersan struggles this season, but his team looks horrible finding the open guy)

[sc8581]

Why? Because their front office isn't very smart?

Its certainly not a good move for them.

The undervaluing of Smith on this board is becoming a joke. Are you really trying to say that Mayo/Ilyasova are better than Smith? c'mon...

Even if you hate Smith for his low FG% and high FGAs this season, both Mayo and Ilyasova are shooting even lower % and take 7 more shots combined.

Both have lower career FG% as well.

This schtick of no team in the league would trade anything for Smith like he's the worst player in history has really gotten old.

I'm not saying Hammond would have interest in that deal. I have no idea what he wants, but in terms of pure value Smith is by far the best player of those 3, and anytime you can get the best player in a trade its a good move.

Smith is better player than Mayo and than Ersan, but for this team, they're better players. We need shooters, and Mayo and Ilyasova are damn good (Ersan struggles this season, but his team looks horrible finding the open guy)

I agree, and with Knight as their PG it's no wonder why they don't find the open man.

[sfballa13]

Id make this trade with the Bucks:

Smith, Jerebko, Datome, Bynum

for

Butler, Mayo, Ilyasova

Jennings / Stuckey
Mayo / KCP
Singler / Butler
Monroe / Ilyasova
Drummond / Harrelson

Dont think the Bucks make this deal but who knows

Knight
Greek
Middleton
Smith
Sanders / Henson

[paQo the BAWSER]

The undervaluing of Smith on this board is becoming a joke. Are you really trying to say that Mayo/Ilyasova are better than Smith? c'mon...

Even if you hate Smith for his low FG% and high FGAs this season, both Mayo and Ilyasova are shooting even lower % and take 7 more shots combined.

Both have lower career FG% as well.

This schtick of no team in the league would trade anything for Smith like he's the worst player in history has really gotten old.

I'm not saying Hammond would have interest in that deal. I have no idea what he wants, but in terms of pure value Smith is by far the best player of those 3, and anytime you can get the best player in a trade its a good move.

Smith is better player than Mayo and than Ersan, but for this team, they're better players. We need shooters, and Mayo and Ilyasova are damn good (Ersan struggles this season, but his team looks horrible finding the open guy)

I agree, and with Knight as their PG it's no wonder why they don't find the open man.

I'm still on my point, I prefer Knight over Jennings. Nowadays you only can be a contender with an elite PG or a 3&D PG. Jennings is an average PG, just the type of guard who never is in a contender. I would prefer have given the ball to KCP and develops his handle and his ability to create his own shot, just like the Magic are doing it with Oladipo.
Jennings is a better player but, he doesn't fit well here. He needs too much contact with the ball to be effective, and we need develop our young players... Seems like nobody in the office could understand that.

[Q00]

Why? Because their front office isn't very smart?

Its certainly not a good move for them.

The undervaluing of Smith on this board is becoming a joke. Are you really trying to say that Mayo/Ilyasova are better than Smith? c'mon...

Even if you hate Smith for his low FG% and high FGAs this season, both Mayo and Ilyasova are shooting even lower % and take 7 more shots combined.

Both have lower career FG% as well.

This schtick of no team in the league would trade anything for Smith like he's the worst player in history has really gotten old.

I'm not saying Hammond would have interest in that deal. I have no idea what he wants, but in terms of pure value Smith is by far the best player of those 3, and anytime you can get the best player in a trade its a good move.

Smith is better player than Mayo and than Ersan, but for this team, they're better players. We need shooters, and Mayo and Ilyasova are damn good (Ersan struggles this season, but his team looks horrible finding the open guy)

I don't believe in paying a king's ransom just for shooters. To me trrading the best player in the deal just to get a couple role player shooters who are overpaid is a kings ransom.

I agree we need shooters, but we should be able to get Gary Neal from them (who might be better than both) for probably something cheap like Jerebko or Bynum and a couple and couple 2nd rounders. I just don't think we should to trade our best players for overpaid role players.

[paQo the BAWSER]

The undervaluing of Smith on this board is becoming a joke. Are you really trying to say that Mayo/Ilyasova are better than Smith? c'mon...

Even if you hate Smith for his low FG% and high FGAs this season, both Mayo and Ilyasova are shooting even lower % and take 7 more shots combined.

Both have lower career FG% as well.

This schtick of no team in the league would trade anything for Smith like he's the worst player in history has really gotten old.

I'm not saying Hammond would have interest in that deal. I have no idea what he wants, but in terms of pure value Smith is by far the best player of those 3, and anytime you can get the best player in a trade its a good move.

Smith is better player than Mayo and than Ersan, but for this team, they're better players. We need shooters, and Mayo and Ilyasova are damn good (Ersan struggles this season, but his team looks horrible finding the open guy)

I don't believe in paying a king's ransom just for shooters. To me trrading the best player in the deal just to get a couple role player shooters who are overpaid is a kings ransom.

I agree we need shooters, but we should be able to get Gary Neal from them (who might be better than both) for probably something cheap like Jerebko or Bynum and a couple and couple 2nd rounders. I just don't think we should to trade our best players for overpaid role players.

I don't think they are overpaid. The PF who can shoot always are too well paid in the NBA. And Mayo seems like he never can reach his potential, but you can't forget there was people who compared him with Jordan in high school. I mean, he could be more than a shooter in the right system, for 8 millions/year, just like Jennings or Villanueva or Stuckey, and so much less than Smith.