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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#261 » by stinger14 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:20 pm

stinger14 wrote:Udrih to Charlotte for Jeff Taylor

Charlotte is looking for some deep shooting help, Udrih gives them some as a backup PG

Knicks get rid of Udrih who has had problems with Woodson. Taylor is no all star but he is a talented player to bring off the bench. Taylor plays SF or SG and is very cheap. Knicks need a couple of talented bench guys on the cheap.



I know this is not one of the more dynamic ideas out there, but what does everyone think about it? Getting a young, athletic guy with some talent for someone who wants out anyway.
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Post#262 » by [GR] » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:21 pm

achilles injuries are always risky


plus, why help the team ahead of you in the playoffs?
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Post#263 » by stinger14 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:34 pm

[GR] wrote:achilles injuries are always risky


plus, why help the team ahead of you in the playoffs?


Risky yes, but he can recover as he is very young. He recovers then he becomes a nice cheap piece off the bench for a team that needs some cheaper talent. If he does not bounce back, then he can be released and the Knicks are out nothing because Udrih will be gone in the of season anyway. No risk, but possible reward for the future.

Does not matter if the Knicks or the Bobcats make the playoffs, either team will get swept in round one
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Post#264 » by K_ick_God » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:39 pm

SAS give any particulars of the deal?
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Post#265 » by riter » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:40 pm

KnicksGod wrote:SAS give any particulars of the deal?


what deal?
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Post#266 » by Marty McFly » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:42 pm

KnicksGod wrote:SAS give any particulars of the deal?


all he's said was that he heard rumors. probably from the same source that that locked thread came from.
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Post#267 » by K_ick_God » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:45 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:SAS give any particulars of the deal?


what deal?


Lin.
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Post#268 » by K_ick_God » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:45 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:SAS give any particulars of the deal?


all he's said was that he heard rumors. probably from the same source that that locked thread came from.


Thanks buddy.
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Post#269 » by FemaleDogPlease » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:15 am

Knicks might want to look at Igoudala. He is a good ball ball handler and passer. I just think the Knicks need guys who can legitimately play 2 positions. Igoudala can play SG and SF.

Knicks just need to go small and try to run teams out of the gym.
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Post#270 » by riter » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:29 am

FemaleDogPlease wrote:Knicks might want to look at Igoudala. He is a good ball ball handler and passer. I just think the Knicks need guys who can legitimately play 2 positions. Igoudala can play SG and SF.

Knicks just need to go small and try to run teams out of the gym.


While I admire the art of the Troll somewhat, and myself have dabbled in it, I do not have the skills to handle this post. I will leave this to the masters.
I might even have to take a couple of guys off of my ignore list for this one.
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Post#271 » by FemaleDogPlease » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:38 am

riter wrote:
FemaleDogPlease wrote:Knicks might want to look at Igoudala. He is a good ball ball handler and passer. I just think the Knicks need guys who can legitimately play 2 positions. Igoudala can play SG and SF.

Knicks just need to go small and try to run teams out of the gym.


While I admire the art of the Troll somewhat, and myself have dabbled in it, I do not have the skills to handle this post. I will leave this to the masters.
I might even have to take a couple of guys off of my ignore list for this one.


No one is trolling. I was actually going to make a thread of the general board about the state of the NBA in regards to GMs. A league full of Kevin Pritchards is bad news. Seems all these analytical GMs want to only do lopsided trades. Requesting first rounder for 1/2 year rentals etc.

Knicks dont have guys other teams want and they dont have picks to trade. My suggestion was only to keep the Knicks in the playoffs until they actually owned their picks in consecutive years.
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Post#272 » by [GR] » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:50 am

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[GR] wrote:achilles injuries are always risky


plus, why help the team ahead of you in the playoffs?


Risky yes, but he can recover as he is very young. He recovers then he becomes a nice cheap piece off the bench for a team that needs some cheaper talent. If he does not bounce back, then he can be released and the Knicks are out nothing because Udrih will be gone in the of season anyway. No risk, but possible reward for the future.

Does not matter if the Knicks or the Bobcats make the playoffs, either team will get swept in round one

It does matter, because we dont have a pick. Playoffs > doing nothing
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Post#273 » by riter » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:55 am

FemaleDogPlease wrote:
No one is trolling. I was actually going to make a thread of the general board about the state of the NBA in regards to GMs. A league full of Kevin Pritchards is bad news. Seems all these analytical GMs want to only do lopsided trades. Requesting first rounder for 1/2 year rentals etc.

Knicks dont have guys other teams want and they dont have picks to trade. My suggestion was only to keep the Knicks in the playoffs until they actually owned their picks in consecutive years.


I'm not accusing you of trolling. I'm saying that your post about the knicks acquiring Iggy is absurd beyond the usual absurdity and that you will be trolled. I also mentioned that I wouldn't troll, b/c I lack the skills, leaving the trolling to others--which is just another way of trolling your post.
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Post#274 » by K_ick_God » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:57 am

If the Knicks are looking to appease Melo, then why not offer Tyson, Prigioni and the 2018 pick for Lin and Asik?

It saves the Rockets about $15 million next season -- that's a chunk of change -- and I think that Knicks team could stand toe to toe with the Pacers next season if we go get Phil for one season this summer or snatch away Thibs.

It'd be a heavyweight title bout. We'd be mad deep with Shump and THJ staying and could mix & match lineups galore. Shump would be back to form again with Lin's pure point play commanding the offense. THJ would get a million looks at good 3's.
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Post#275 » by riter » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:00 am

KnicksGod wrote:If the Knicks are looking to appease Melo, then why not offer Tyson, Prigioni and the 2018 pick for Lin and Asik?

It saves the Rockets about $15 million next season -- that's a chunk of change -- and I think that Knicks team could stand toe to toe with the Pacers next season if we go get Phil for one season this summer or snatch away Thibs.

It'd be a heavyweight title fight.


if the knicks would really give up that first for the likes of Lowry, there's no doubt in my mind that the FO would go through with your trade. I think the problem is wth the Houston FO, not the Knicks FO.
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Post#276 » by K_ick_God » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:03 am

riter wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:If the Knicks are looking to appease Melo, then why not offer Tyson, Prigioni and the 2018 pick for Lin and Asik?

It saves the Rockets about $15 million next season -- that's a chunk of change -- and I think that Knicks team could stand toe to toe with the Pacers next season if we go get Phil for one season this summer or snatch away Thibs.

It'd be a heavyweight title fight.


if the knicks would really give up that first for the likes of Lowry, there's no doubt in my mind that the FO would go through with your trade. I think the problem is wth the Houston FO, not the Knicks FO.


We'd already have Lowry if the pick was on the table for him.

Lin is a different story because he has another year, and he's better. Plus we get Asik.
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Post#277 » by Marty McFly » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:05 am

KnicksGod wrote:If the Knicks are looking to appease Melo, then why not offer Tyson, Prigioni and the 2018 pick for Lin and Asik?

It saves the Rockets about $15 million next season -- that's a chunk of change -- and I think that Knicks team could stand toe to toe with the Pacers next season if we go get Phil for one season this summer or snatch away Thibs.

It'd be a heavyweight title bout. We'd be mad deep with Shump and THJ staying and could mix & match lineups galore. Shump would be back to form again with Lin's pure point play commanding the offense. THJ would get a million looks at good 3's.


we had lin. if he thought lin would have been worth keeping around, he would have gone to bat for him, since, this is his team. so, i don't think that would appease melo.
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Post#278 » by Context » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:09 am

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riter wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:If the Knicks are looking to appease Melo, then why not offer Tyson, Prigioni and the 2018 pick for Lin and Asik?

It saves the Rockets about $15 million next season -- that's a chunk of change -- and I think that Knicks team could stand toe to toe with the Pacers next season if we go get Phil for one season this summer or snatch away Thibs.

It'd be a heavyweight title fight.


if the knicks would really give up that first for the likes of Lowry, there's no doubt in my mind that the FO would go through with your trade. I think the problem is wth the Houston FO, not the Knicks FO.


We'd already have Lowry if the pick was on the table for him.

Lin is a different story because he has another year, and he's better. Plus we get Asik.

I'd do ur deal KS...
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Post#279 » by K_ick_God » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:29 am

Marty McFly wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:If the Knicks are looking to appease Melo, then why not offer Tyson, Prigioni and the 2018 pick for Lin and Asik?

It saves the Rockets about $15 million next season -- that's a chunk of change -- and I think that Knicks team could stand toe to toe with the Pacers next season if we go get Phil for one season this summer or snatch away Thibs.

It'd be a heavyweight title bout. We'd be mad deep with Shump and THJ staying and could mix & match lineups galore. Shump would be back to form again with Lin's pure point play commanding the offense. THJ would get a million looks at good 3's.


we had lin. if he thought lin would have been worth keeping around, he would have gone to bat for him, since, this is his team. so, i don't think that would appease melo.


Different time & place man. Tyson is much worse and Felton is an abject failure, while Lin has gotten better, and Asik would fill a big void.
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Re: Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux 

Post#280 » by Marty McFly » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:34 am

KnicksGod wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:If the Knicks are looking to appease Melo, then why not offer Tyson, Prigioni and the 2018 pick for Lin and Asik?

It saves the Rockets about $15 million next season -- that's a chunk of change -- and I think that Knicks team could stand toe to toe with the Pacers next season if we go get Phil for one season this summer or snatch away Thibs.

It'd be a heavyweight title bout. We'd be mad deep with Shump and THJ staying and could mix & match lineups galore. Shump would be back to form again with Lin's pure point play commanding the offense. THJ would get a million looks at good 3's.


we had lin. if he thought lin would have been worth keeping around, he would have gone to bat for him, since, this is his team. so, i don't think that would appease melo.


Different time & place man. Tyson is much worse and Felton is an abject failure, while Lin has gotten better, and Asik would fill a big void.


I'm not going to begin to know what melo is thinking, I'm just basing my opinion on history. i don't think either is enough to keep him around.
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