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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1481 » by carey » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:37 am

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SF88 wrote: I actually feel bad for the Nets. They don't have a 1st round pick in the next 4 years. Their only young player that has any promise of being a star is the very injury prone Brook Lopez.


You'll have to explain that one for me. Isn't that impossible?


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So he's wrong. They have a 1st round pick in 15 & 17 just possibly not their own.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1482 » by Revived » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:37 am

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SF88 wrote: I am very close to being completely off the Kevin Love bandwagon. Does this team need another jump shooter who lacks the balls to play in the paint?


I don't think you can put up the rebounding numbers he does and be "ball-less." Come on. I just think offensively he doesn't have a traditional big-man's skill set. That doesn't bother me one bit, especially w/ the manner & frequency that Dragic and Bledsoe attack the rim.

It could be a coincidence but I look at the past 15 NBA champs and every single one (except for Detroit) had a star big man who could score effectively in the paint.

Bosh, Dirk, Gasol, KG, Duncan, Shaq.

Seems like when the game slows down in the playoffs, you have to have a go to scorer who can get buckets in the paint.

Dragic and Bledsoe are great at scoring at the rim but against bigger teams, we need a big man who can score inside...that's been proven in almost all our losses imo.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1483 » by carey » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:38 am

TOO wrote:Archie Goodwin is waaaaay overvalued on this site.


Yeah, can't blame them though. Haven't been any young players to get enthusiastic about for years.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1484 » by Revived » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:38 am

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SF88 wrote: I actually feel bad for the Nets. They don't have a 1st round pick in the next 4 years. Their only young player that has any promise of being a star is the very injury prone Brook Lopez.


You'll have to explain that one for me. Isn't that impossible?

They actually have one but it will be the worse one between their own and the Hawks. It won't be a good pick but yes technically they have that 1st rd pick that season.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1485 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:39 am

TOO wrote:Archie Goodwin is waaaaay overvalued on this site.

I tend to agree. I think he came out of college way too early. I think if the suns keep him, it won't be till the final year of his contract that anyone starts to see him living up to his potential. That's four years away.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1486 » by NaturalBuns » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:46 am

TOO wrote:Archie Goodwin is waaaaay overvalued on this site.


And the Indiana 1st
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A's over Royals. Lester and experience will prove that he's worth the trade.

Tigers winning it all. Tigers are, imo, peaking at the right time.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1487 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:49 am

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TOO wrote:Archie Goodwin is waaaaay overvalued on this site.


And the Indiana 1st

Let u know after the selection is made.

It's like let's make a deal. Take the money or the box with something unknown. It could be a new car or an empty box. You just don't know. Hard decision. Your choose.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1488 » by Revived » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:49 am

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TOO wrote:Archie Goodwin is waaaaay overvalued on this site.

I tend to agree. I think he came out of college way too early. I think if the suns keep him, it won't be till the final year of his contract that anyone starts to see him living up to his potential. That's four years away.

He needs to get time but its understandable why he isn't getting time right now...we have a strong group of guards on this team.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1489 » by letsgosuns » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:54 am

BurningHeart wrote:No way I give up a guy who's in the NBA Development League for Kevin Love either, lol.


Take a look at some of the players that have played in D-league. http://www.nba.com/dleague/tracker/

Six of the players on the current Suns team have played in the D-league at some point, and they are now major contributors on the team. Eric Bledsoe, Gerald Green, Marcus Morris, P.J. Tucker, Miles Plumlee, and Ish Smith. Four of those guys are starters on the team and Bledsoe is a bonafide all star level talent. So just because Goodwin has played in the D-league does not take away from him at all. In fact, he has totally dominated in his two stints there which bodes very well for him.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1490 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:55 am

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TOO wrote:Archie Goodwin is waaaaay overvalued on this site.

I tend to agree. I think he came out of college way too early. I think if the suns keep him, it won't be till the final year of his contract that anyone starts to see him living up to his potential. That's four years away.

He needs to get time but its understandable why he isn't getting time right now...we have a strong group of guards on this team.

He really needs to improve his shooting. His ability to get the basket is great but that shooting touch needs to come around. It took the morrii three years and their still not quite there yet.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1491 » by csavage658 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:56 am

The work ethic that Archie displays shows me that he wants to be the good player he was projected to be, I think he has to much heart to be a bust and McDonough sees that
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1492 » by BurningHeart » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:00 am

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BurningHeart wrote:No way I give up a guy who's in the NBA Development League for Kevin Love either, lol.


Take a look at some of the players that have played in D-league. http://www.nba.com/dleague/tracker/

Six of the players on the current Suns team have played in the D-league at some point, and they are now major contributors on the team. Eric Bledsoe, Gerald Green, Marcus Morris, P.J. Tucker, Miles Plumlee, and Ish Smith. Four of those guys are starters on the team and Bledsoe is a bonafide all star level talent. So just because Goodwin has played in the D-league does not take away from him at all. In fact, he has totally dominated in his two stints there which bodes very well for him.


And nobody in this post is anywhere near as good as Kevin Love is.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1493 » by DirtyDez » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:00 am

My hope for Archie is that he can eventually backup both guard spots like LB earlier in his career. I think once he works thru the growing pains he can really provide that spark for our bench but would I include him in a trade for a star right now? **** yeah I would.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1494 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:02 am

BurningHeart wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:No way I give up a guy who's in the NBA Development League for Kevin Love either, lol.


Take a look at some of the players that have played in D-league. http://www.nba.com/dleague/tracker/

Six of the players on the current Suns team have played in the D-league at some point, and they are now major contributors on the team. Eric Bledsoe, Gerald Green, Marcus Morris, P.J. Tucker, Miles Plumlee, and Ish Smith. Four of those guys are starters on the team and Bledsoe is a bonafide all star level talent. So just because Goodwin has played in the D-league does not take away from him at all. In fact, he has totally dominated in his two stints there which bodes very well for him.


And nobody in this post is anywhere near as good as Kevin Love is.

If he does come, I just hope it doesn't turn out to be another tom gugliota (spelling) situation. Googs was awesome before he got to the suns and went down hill after we got him. Obviously there was some health stuff involved.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1495 » by BurningHeart » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:04 am

Yeah that would be awful but it's a chance I'm willing to take.
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Re: 2014 Official Trade Thread 

Post#1496 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:10 am

BurningHeart wrote:Yeah that would be awful but it's a chance I'm willing to take.

Me too. Btw, I really liked Googs. I remember being really excited about getting him. Ironically I think he came from the wolves.
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