Houston Coming after Dunleavy, Bulls unwilling to move him

Mightymosdef · Post #21 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:10 pm

dice wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:because he's on a good contract and we have to field a team next season?

He's not going to be much help next season, he's aging & his play isn't as great as Marco who is a FA this off season I believe.

marco is signed next season and not as good as dunleavy. that's why we chose dunleavy in the first place

LMFAOOOOOO

BuffaloBull · Post #22 » by **BuffaloBull** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:12 pm

Dunleavy is the kind of vet a lot of teams would love to pick up at the deadline because he can shoot (in short supply around the league), even out of motion sets, and he can pick up a system quickly. But for those same reasons, the Bulls should value him. Per Synergy, our screen sets are one of the few places our offense is above average, and the dropoff from him to Snell is pretty great.

Jimmy Forums · Post #23 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:13 pm

Bisonbull8 wrote:Id give up a pick for T Jones. But the deal would be something like:

Bulls: Okafor, T Jones, Brewer
Suns: Boozer
Rockets:Dunleavy, Bulls lotto protected 1st

Well that escalated quickly.

We should all just assume Terrence Jones is not involved. It just wouldn't make sense, and of all people, we are not going to trick Morey into making a bad deal for a young guy playing well.

dice · Post #24 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:13 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:marco is signed next season and not as good as dunleavy. that's why we chose dunleavy in the first place

LMFAOOOOOO

why are you laughing your ass off off off off off off?

you can be distracted by a half season of marco shooting lights out in the spurs' system if you like. i prefer to take the broader view

Bisonbull8 · Post #25 » by **Bisonbull8** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:15 pm

Jimmy Forums wrote:
Bisonbull8 wrote:Id give up a pick for T Jones. But the deal would be something like:

Bulls: Okafor, T Jones, Brewer
Suns: Boozer
Rockets:Dunleavy, Bulls lotto protected 1st

Well that escalated quickly.

We should all just assume Terrence Jones is not involved. It just wouldn't make sense, and of all people, we are not going to trick Morey into making a bad deal for a young guy playing well.

First off, I never believe any rumors that ever come out. They never happen. That was just a hypothetical for if T Jones were available and what id give up for him. I dont think the Bulls make any moves at the deadline. Or at least I wont believe it until it happens.

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #26 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:15 pm

Without knowing what's involved I don't really see how to respond.

I doubt Terrance is part of any MDJ talks.

Trm3 · Post #27 » by **Trm3** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:16 pm

dice wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:marco is signed next season and not as good as dunleavy. that's why we chose dunleavy in the first place

LMFAOOOOOO

why are you laughing your ass off off off off off off?

you can be distracted by a half season of marco shooting lights out in the spurs' system if you like. i prefer to take the broader view

Mightymosdef · Post #28 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:19 pm

dice wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:marco is signed next season and not as good as dunleavy. that's why we chose dunleavy in the first place

LMFAOOOOOO

why are you laughing your ass off off off off off off?

you can be distracted by a half season of marco shooting lights out in the spurs' system if you like. i prefer to take the broader view

So wait..Marco has been the best 3 pt shooter for half a season..but with Marco it's "it's half a season" but because MDJ is a Bull you won't use the same criticism? All right.

Such an outrageous thing haha, MDJ is better than Marco smh.

ChicagoStrong · Post #29 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:20 pm

I'll take Dunleavy over Marco too.

Marco wasn't even that good when he was here.

Mightymosdef · Post #30 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:24 pm

AJB wrote:I'll take Dunleavy over Marco too.

Marco wasn't even that good when he was here.

You can take a 33 year old MDJ over a Marco that's 27, the best 3 pt shooter, and better in PER ranking.

I'd rather have the better player.

Jimmy Forums · Post #31 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:25 pm

Bisonbull8 wrote:
Jimmy Forums wrote:
Bisonbull8 wrote:Id give up a pick for T Jones. But the deal would be something like:

Bulls: Okafor, T Jones, Brewer
Suns: Boozer
Rockets:Dunleavy, Bulls lotto protected 1st

Well that escalated quickly.

We should all just assume Terrence Jones is not involved. It just wouldn't make sense, and of all people, we are not going to trick Morey into making a bad deal for a young guy playing well.

First off, I never believe any rumors that ever come out. They never happen. That was just a hypothetical for if T Jones were available and what id give up for him. I dont think the Bulls make any moves at the deadline. Or at least I wont believe it until it happens.

That's basically where I'm at. As with every year. Ugh.

There will be rumors, but there's rarely ever going to be a move.

Oh, I would do your hypothetical trade too, but I don't think Phoenix would ever just jump in and include Boozer for Okafor. All that does is give them a big guaranteed contract rather than a big contract covered with insurance money, or whatever that report was. If they wanted to deal him, there're better options.

ChicagoStrong · Post #32 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:26 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:
AJB wrote:I'll take Dunleavy over Marco too.

Marco wasn't even that good when he was here.

You can take a 33 year old MDJ over a Marco that's 27, the best 3 pt shooter, and better in PER ranking.

I'd rather have the better player.

Marco wouldn't be putting up those numbers on the Bulls.

Mightymosdef · Post #33 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:34 pm

AJB wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
AJB wrote:I'll take Dunleavy over Marco too.

Marco wasn't even that good when he was here.

You can take a 33 year old MDJ over a Marco that's 27, the best 3 pt shooter, and better in PER ranking.

I'd rather have the better player.

Marco wouldn't be putting up those numbers on the Bulls.

He wouldn't be putting those numbers up in a Bulls team where the only shooter is MDJ? But on the Spurs where there's more depth he can? Logical

ChicagoStrong · Post #34 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:35 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:He wouldn't be putting those numbers up in a Bulls team where the only shooter is MDJ? But on the Spurs where there's more depth he can? Logical

MJD has had a better season than Marco did last year on the Bulls and he is the Bulls only shooter.

Post #35 » by **DuckIII** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:36 pm

Payt10 wrote:I'd like to hear what Houston is offering before I cast aspersions on the front office for not moving Dunleavy.

Naturally. No doubt teams are still hoping the Bulls are interested in dumping guaranteed money in exchange for garbage. The most logical conclusion is that Houston is offering dick.

Post #36 » by **DuckIII** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:38 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:Move Dun, idk why you wouldn't

because he's on a good contract and we have to field a team next season?

He's not going to be much help next season, he's aging & his play isn't as great as Marco who is a FA this off season I believe.

In theory, he should be even more help next season playing off of a breakdown penetrator. That's why we brought him in, to compliment Rose.

Mightymosdef · Post #37 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:38 pm

AJB wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:He wouldn't be putting those numbers up in a Bulls team where the only shooter is MDJ? But on the Spurs where there's more depth he can? Logical

MJD has had a better season than Marco did last year on the Bulls and he is the Bulls only shooter.

Thanks, that's my point exactly. MDJ is the only shooter yet still is behind in PER & is only 2 points ahead of Marco from last season.

Last season Marco was playing with Nate who eats up shots but still was 2 points less.

ChicagoStrong · Post #38 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:41 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:Thanks, that's my point exactly. MDJ is the only shooter yet still is behind in PER & is only 2 points ahead of Marco from last season.

Last season Marco was playing with Nate who eats up shots but still was 2 points less.

Marco

2012-13: 10.4 PER, .513 TS%, .460 eFG%, .357 3P%, .395 FG%

Dunleavy

2013-14: 13.0 PER, .548 TS%, .516 eFG%, .380 3P%, .437 FG%

Mightymosdef · Post #39 » by **Mightymosdef** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:44 pm

DuckIII wrote:
Mightymosdef wrote:
dice wrote:because he's on a good contract and we have to field a team next season?

He's not going to be much help next season, he's aging & his play isn't as great as Marco who is a FA this off season I believe.

In theory, he should be even more help next season playing off of a breakdown penetrator. That's why we brought him in, to compliment Rose.

Which from what we've seen he can't do(not to say he definitively can't).

Hangtime84 · Post #40 » by **Hangtime84** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:45 pm

Mightymosdef wrote:
He wouldn't be putting those numbers up in a Bulls team where the only shooter is MDJ? But on the Spurs where there's more depth he can? Logical

Using this point if the bulls had more shooters and better scorers on the court. MDJ could put up similar numbers because he wouldn't be only long distance threat out there. I'd rather compare numbers while playing in situations (On the chicago bulls) rather then looking at a team like the spurs were there is obviously more offensive threats on the court then what we have here.

I just think some people think younger & flash = better player