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dakomish wrote:Cavs have put Deng back out there. Waiters just went down with what looks like a knee injury. They wanted Shump before. Bargs / SHump for Deng so they get something instead of losing Deng for nothing? IDK
Nyk4lyfe wrote:dakomish wrote:Cavs have put Deng back out there. Waiters just went down with what looks like a knee injury. They wanted Shump before. Bargs / SHump for Deng so they get something instead of losing Deng for nothing? IDK
That'd be cool and all but the people you're trading them are also now injured....
CKamm1 wrote:dakomish wrote:Cavs have put Deng back out there. Waiters just went down with what looks like a knee injury. They wanted Shump before. Bargs / SHump for Deng so they get something instead of losing Deng for nothing? IDK
At the very least need to take on Jack's salary from them as well I'd think. I'm also pretty sure Deng can't be traded along with another player so it'd be two separate deals looking something like this:
Barg for Deng
and
Shumpert, MWP, Kenyon, Cole, Udrih any other minimum **** we have left for Jack
Besart19 wrote:Bargs, Shump, Udrih and future 2nd rounder for Deng and Waiters
Felton, MWP and 2018 first for Lowry
Amare, Bargs, Shump, Felton, 2018 first, 2020 first for Rondo, Green, Wallace and Bass
Felton, Smith, Udrih, MWP and 2018 first rounder for Parker and filler
MKCATL wrote:Looks like we will have our work cut out for us this Offseason.
OrangeBlueSkies wrote:It seems like just yesterday Jason Kidd hit the "leg-kicking" game winner vs. the Brooklyn Nets. Raymond Felton's excellent first-round series vs. Boston seems like a distant memory however. The Knicks, our Knicks, simply have not found any rhythm or winning spirit all season long.
Today marked the day we would shake up our roster...why? Not because we've underachieved more than any other team this season, but because it was the trading deadline. Why didn't we attempt to move Shump/Felton during the Texas road trip, when both played well, sparingly. Instead we waiting for the two days before the deadline to look for moves.
3PM hits today and we land nobody. Our backcourt is seemingly non-existent. But thats okay. When Iman Shumpert joined the NBA from Georgia Tech, he was seldom known. However, he made his name in his very first professional action, as a ball hounding stopper. When I first saw Iman play, I automatically compared him to another young two-way player, Paul George. I thought the two would grow to be very similar players. Nobody expected Paul George to improve his offensive game so much over the past two off-seasons.
On the other end of the spectrum, the Knicks Iman Shumpert has seemingly lost all his offensive confidence. So lets sell low on one of our two only assets! No. Stand Pat. Sucks we couldn't move Felton, but he's another player that can easily start to play better and bring his value up by the time the off-season rolls around. This off-season we will have legit NBA type assets. Three massive one year deals, two young wing players (Shump, THJr.), J.R. Smith, and Raymond Felton.
Come this time next season, we will have our chance to set ourselves up for the biggest summer of free agency in Knicks history. BTW, this is all assuming Melo resigns this off-season, because I am positive he will. Anyway, we will have ways to create deals that land us either talent, picks, or cap relief. By putting one of our expiring deals with Ray or J.R., hopefully we can rebuild from there the right way. Either way, next time NBA teams can officially trade again, our Knicks will have 3 contracts worth over 40 million dollars in expiring deals.
Just some trade ideas for this time next season:
A) Huntin Wolves :
Knicks trade Amare,Felton, J.R. Smith
Knicks receive: Love (who resigns), Rubio
B) Ragin Rajon
Knicks trade Bargnani, Felton
Knicks receive Rondo
Either of those two stars can force their way to the Knicks, along with any other stars in the league...and because of those huge expiring deals we have, the assets are there to acquire star talent....
of course any deal must be signed off by Carmelo Kyam Anthony.
KnicksGod wrote:One other thought about finding smart trades, like many that Rasho proposed (credit given) -- such as saving the Thunder tax and getting back a prospect like Adams.
It's a good idea.
But it has a fundamental flaw: Trades are 2-way conversations. If the Thunder could spot a move they'd definitely make, like the ones Rasho proposed, then they'd call up the Knicks and offer it.
He and others are so busy trying to pin blame on the Knicks that they forget that the other team in the proposed trade could also pick up the phone. And if they don't, then it's probably not something they're very interested in. Or they're at least missing this brilliant move as much as Steve McKinsey Mills is -- so it's not as big a miss as being advertised.
Suffice to say, if the OKC really do view Tyson as a missing piece and would give up Adams for him, that fact will be presented to the Knicks by somebody ... even if they wouldn't initiate it themselves because they're so asleep at the switch allegedly.
MKCATL wrote:I don't know where to post this but I can't fathom how we are going to go into Melo's free agency with only MIke D'Antoni and Mike Woodson being his only coaches here. I'm at the point of rooting for winning the lottery this year, while Brooklyn goes onto win the Championship, and then Melo walks away, Just so I could look at Dolan's face.
wakeup50 wrote:hi I have a trade proposal
Knicks trade - Shumpert and Tyson chandler
Magic trade - Vucevic + top 3 protected 2014 1st
you get an elite defensive center and a great defender in shumpert
knicks take on vucevics contract and get a 2014 1st
hardaway jr and chandler for vucevic and 2014 top 3 protection
hardaway jr and shumpert and two 2nd round picks for tobias harris and vuc