Trade Idea Thread II

TheNewEra · Post #761 » by **TheNewEra** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:54 pm

Well nothing changed.

Angel strike1 · Post #762 » by **Angel strike1** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:55 pm

Who is cenk?

Angel strike1 · Post #763 » by **Angel strike1** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:55 pm

So addition. By b subtraction?

Ranma · Post #764 » by **Ranma** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:57 pm

mttwlsn16 wrote:Deals: Byron Mullens & future 2nd to PHI for conditional 2nd....Jamison and cash to ATL for draft rights to Cenk Akoyl.

Basically means we dumped Mullens by giving up a future 2nd-round pick. Hey, I'm glad he's gone and it may not seem like much, but giving up a future asset to unload a bad signing is not something I want to be in the regular habit of doing. As you can see, draft picks--regardless of position--are commodities that can be used as chips in negotiations. Doc better be more careful in his player signings from now on.

Don Tommy · Post #765 » by **Don Tommy** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:48 pm

Ralph just tweeted that we are runner up to sign Danny Granger after the 76ers buy him out. We stand at 12 players now and have only two weeks to get back to 13 players, but he said it won't take that long. We cleared salary and roster spots, but for who? I'm hoping the Kings buyout Reggie and he comes back here.

mttwlsn16 · Post #766 » by **mttwlsn16** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:30 pm

We rolling into memphis tomorrow w only blake dj and hollins?

And hell ya reggie evans coming back would be fkn awesome. Hope Sac buys him out

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BCS · Post #767 » by **BCS** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:14 pm

I'm disappointed with your team, if you're not trading Bullock at least give him some playing time. The team is ruining his career.

mttwlsn16 · Post #768 » by **mttwlsn16** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:18 pm

BCS wrote:I'm disappointed with your team, if you're not trading Bullock at least give him some playing time. The team is ruining his career.

Yes hr should play more but to say not playing much halfway into his rookie year is ruining his career is pretty fkn ridiculous

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Ranma · Post #769 » by **Ranma** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:46 pm

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Don Tommy · Post #770 » by **Don Tommy** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:58 pm

BCS wrote:I'm disappointed with your team, if you're not trading Bullock at least give him some playing time. The team is ruining his career.

Idiot troll here. Not many rookies come in and play a significant role for a contending team. All the interest around the league shows that we drafted a good player, give him time to learn the NBA.

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Post #772 » by **QRich3** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:07 am

If we were able to fill out the roster with Granger, Big Baby and Ivan Johnson we wouldn't have done so bad

BCS · Post #773 » by **BCS** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:16 am

Don Tommy wrote:
BCS wrote:I'm disappointed with your team, if you're not trading Bullock at least give him some playing time. The team is ruining his career.

Idiot troll here. Not many rookies come in and play a significant role for a contending team. All the interest around the league shows that we drafted a good player, give him time to learn the NBA.

Not an idiot, but from what I've seen I hear you guys wanting to trade for Shumpert, sign Granger, so on and so on, so when will Bullock get his playing experience, he is not going to learn anything sitting on the bench. I knew he wasn't going to play an important role in this team since you are a contending team but he hasn't seen playtime even when your wing players are injured and playing bad.

Now down the stretch I don't expect him to get much playing time cause like you said he is a rookie, but with the injuries and Dudley playing bad I'd expected they would at least had given him a shot and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks the same. Its not about him getting a significant role, he just has no role, even as players get injured.

playaloc916 · Post #774 » by **playaloc916** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:18 am

QRich3 wrote:If we were able to fill out the roster with Granger, Big Baby and Ivan Johnson we wouldn't have done so bad

Seems like the Nets are competing with us. We better act fast or we might end up with nobody.

Neddy · Post #775 » by **Neddy** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:11 am

BCS wrote:Not an idiot, but from what I've seen I hear you guys wanting to trade for Shumpert, sign Granger, so on and so on, so when will Bullock get his playing experience, he is not going to learn anything sitting on the bench..

correction.

we didn't want Shumpert, they wanted Bullock. Signing Granger is a no brainer. we are not a lottery team like the fakers. we are a contender and contenders play seasoned vets, especially when they are a multiple times all star and still within the latter end of his prime.

if you don't learn anything from sitting behind vets but regress to a point of ruining a career, how did Tom Brady become a HOF QB after sitting behind Drew Bledsoe? how did Darrell Armstrong manage to have 15 year NBA career and once a winner of the most improved player award after being undrafted and out of NBA for the first 4 years? once he made it to the NBA he hardly ever played for the first couple of years on top of that.

Blake Griffin made statements in his second year in NBA that the first year of sitting out due to injury helped him learn the speed of NBA immensely. i think i would rather go with somebody who's talking in first person terms.

Post #776 » by **thanumba2clippersfan** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:28 am

I'll post my reacations to today's trades here. First I'm happy that we were able to get rid of Mullens. I never wanted him on the and I'm glad we didn't have to keep him during his whole contract.

I'm not surprised that we traded Jamison either, we really weren't playing him much lately. I thought he would give us more, but I guess not.

Now we need to sign some bigs and it looks like we are in the running for some players. I'm sure that we'll announce very soon when we have a new addition.

mttwlsn16 · Post #777 » by **mttwlsn16** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:33 am

I dont think anyone on this board is happier than I am that Mullens is gone

Neddy · Post #778 » by **Neddy** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:39 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:I dont think anyone on this board is happier than I am that Mullens is gone

and you thought he was going to be decent at first too. redeems your premonition.

Post #779 » by **thanumba2clippersfan** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:40 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:I dont think anyone on this board is happier than I am that Mullens is gone

We were probably his two biggest haters. I probably didn't talk about him that much on the board, but I really hated the signing and really couldn't understand why we got him. At least he's gone so I won't have to worry about him.

BCS · Post #780 » by **BCS** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:42 am

Neddy wrote:
BCS wrote:Not an idiot, but from what I've seen I hear you guys wanting to trade for Shumpert, sign Granger, so on and so on, so when will Bullock get his playing experience, he is not going to learn anything sitting on the bench..

correction.

we didn't want Shumpert, they wanted Bullock. Signing Granger is a no brainer. we are not a lottery team like the fakers. we are a contender and contenders play seasoned vets, especially when they are a multiple times all star and still within the latter end of his prime.

if you don't learn anything from sitting behind vets but regress to a point of ruining a career, how did Tom Brady become a HOF QB after sitting behind Drew Bledsoe? how did Darrell Armstrong manage to have 15 year NBA career and once a winner of the most improved player award after being undrafted and out of NBA for the first 4 years? once he made it to the NBA he hardly ever played for the first couple of years on top of that.

Blake Griffin made statements in his second year in NBA that the first year of sitting out due to injury helped him learn the speed of NBA immensely. i think i would rather go with somebody who's talking in first person terms.

The Clips did want Shump, they were smart not giving Bullock for him but Shump would've been over Bullock in the depth chart had they acquired him without including Bullock. As far as your examples excluding Blake of course which is an opinion he gave, Armstrong was never given the chance until the Magic tore up the team to rebuild and as you said look at the career he had once he had a chance. Brady, same thing, not given a chance, Bledsoe got hurt, so the gave him a sho and Brady stepped up big time, and thats the opportunity Bullock hasn't been given.

What I'm seeing is this team becoming like a big market teams, you have a very good young team that should be on top for years to come, meaning that vets like Barnes, Granger and the likes will always want to sign with you guys, so when will Bullock be given a chance if you keep signing and trading for players instead of giving a chance to the ones you already have and see what they got. I just don't want the kid to be forgotten and never given a chance. And I'm not saying give him an important role for the playoffs, no, but for example Redick is out 3-5 weeks, for that time you can afford to give him a few mins to see what he's got, and once Redick comes back you can sit him again if you weren't satisfied or who knows maybe he plays better than Dudley and you start playing him over Dudley.