Antawn Jamison

[smittylo]

If you call Cenk Akyol anything, then I guess so. Danny really did Donald Sterling a favor by taking jamison off the Clippers payroll.

[parson]

My question, did we just essentially do LAC a favor by taking Jamison off their hands?

There was no tangible benefit to us. Only LAC got anything from the trade. Am I mistaken?

We got cash. And, if the Lakers have to cut Hill or Kaman, we can use it (officially the DPE) to pay for one.

[Rip2137]

In no way is Cunningham a bad player. Just needs floor time to grow. We knew what he was when we got him. We have to give him time like schroder. I might post here more because hawksquawk is on my nerves with the tanking crap.

Not to disregard your opinion, but he has played 22 games in the D-League this year, averaging 30 minutes a game and is shooting below 40%...IN THE D LEAGUE. He is averaging 5 assist and around 4 turnovers...IN THE D-LEAGUE. Last year he played 15 games and 34 minutes a game and shot THIRTY FREAKING THREE percent from the field

Maybe he will get better this year. But this incarnation of Cunningham is honestly not good at basketball.

I understand people say "Hey, young first round pick" but seriously, in 37 games over 2 years at 30+ minutes a game against fringe NBA talent, he has managed to shoot 36% from the field, and turn the ball over nearly as much as he gets assist....

I don't know what you guys see in him. Maybe because he kinda looks like Danny Green you think he can become him?

[parson]

In no way is Cunningham a bad player.

Well, he's a wonderful athlete but a poorly skilled player.

[Jamaaliver]

I don't know what you guys see in him. Maybe because he kinda looks like Danny Green you think he can become him?

I have no idea if he has any skills. I just wanna see him given a legit shot. He's played a total of 22 minutes in 5 games. Not nearly enough to get a feel for what he can do. Our staff prides itself on its player development...so let's give him some.

We have 9 players available, will the losses pile up if a few minutes are tossed at Dennis and Jared? Cause...they already are.
JC probably is terrible, I'd just like to be absolutely sure before we cast him aside.

[Rip2137]

I don't know what you guys see in him. Maybe because he kinda looks like Danny Green you think he can become him?

I have no idea if he has any skills. I just wanna see him given a legit shot. He's played a total of 22 minutes in 5 games. Not nearly enough to get a feel for what he can do. Our staff prides itself on its player development...so let's give him some.

We have 9 players available, will the losses pile up if a few minutes are tossed at Dennis and Jared? Cause...they already are.
JC probably is terrible, I'd just like to be absolutely sure before we cast him aside.

Nooo...he has played over 30 minutes a game in 37 games. That is more than enough time to "see what he can do".

Are you telling me you think there is a chance in hell that this guy, who has basically SUCKED playing (as you have described them) garbage, bottom of the barrel players can some how contribute if you give him minutes against BETTER players?

What you are saying is like saying "I know this guy was horrible at his jr. college and we have a seasons worth of games to see that, but lets give him a full ride scholarship on our Div 1 team...just to make sure he sucks."

I would rather resign James Nunnally again. At least he has, you know, not completely sucked since being drafted.

[Jamaaliver]

Nooo...he has played over 30 minutes a game in 37 games. That is more than enough time to "see what he can do".

Are you telling me you think there is a chance in hell that this guy, who has basically SUCKED playing (as you have described them) garbage, bottom of the barrel players can some how contribute if you give him minutes against BETTER players?

What you are saying is like saying "I know this guy was horrible at his jr. college and we have a seasons worth of games to see that, but lets give him a full ride scholarship on our Div 1 team...just to make sure he sucks."

I would rather resign James Nunnally again. At least he has, you know, not completely sucked since being drafted.

Interesting metaphor. And perhaps that is where the disconnect is between us. He did play Division 1 college ball in one of the more competitive basketball leagues in this country. I consider the PAC-10 a better proving ground for a player's abilities than various trips cross country to the D-League. He was twice voted to the Conference All Defense Team. He also led his team in scoring as a Junior while shooting 45% from the field.
His assist/turnover ratio in college was pretty much the same as it is in the D-League: 1 to 1. Clearly he isn't much of a playmaker or ballhandler. But scouts were enamored with the kid very recently.

Defensively, Cunningham has real virtues, as evidenced by the fact that he was named to the Pac-12 all-defensive first team, despite playing on the conference's fourth worst defense.

On one hand, he has quick feet and excellent anticipation skills, helping him rank in the top-10 amongst all prospects in steals this season, and #1 last season.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2u1tV1ikB
http://www.draftexpress.com

Cunningham's best attributes revolve around using his speed to get out in the open floor and turn the corner in the half-court, something he's able to do frequently on a team that played at the fastest tempo in the Pac-12. He is one of the most efficient scorers in college basketball in transition situations, converting 66% of his field goal attempts and getting to the free throw line at a prolific rate.

Cunningham also does a good job moving off the ball in Oregon State's modified Princeton offense, being a frequent target for teammates to throw lobs to taking advantage of his strong leaping ability.


Cunningham...possesses strong athleticism which should help compensate for his average size. He has a good first step and excellent quickness in the open floor, and is capable of playing above the rim.

Again. He probably isn't very good. But I don't consider the D-League the ideal place for judging, evaluating, developing young talent. The coaching isn't very good. The stability is non-existent, especially with him missing valuable practice time learning the offense with being called back to us every few weeks.

He was a very good defender in college who could play above the rim and finish in transition very well. This is a skillset that could be very valuable to us in the present and the future.

And, yet again, stats don't tell the whole story. It just never hurts to give the kid a shot in a season when we have struggled to stay above .500 all year long.

So basically it comes down to the 90 plus games in the Pac-10 where he showed some serious potential versus the 37 games in the D-League where he has struggled greatly in recent months.

NOTE: Unless we have our own D-League affiliate with our own coaches/trainers teaching our principles to our young players, I give absolutely 0 credit for succeeding or failing in the D-League.

[Jamaaliver]

I would rather resign James Nunnally again. At least he has, you know, not completely sucked since being drafted.

Well, as a young player hoping to make a mark in this league...hopefully he will get a real opportunity to show his worth. His time in Atlanta was wasted as he sat the bench most nights and had little impact when he did touch the floor.

And again, I don't consider his D-League success an indicator of future success in the league.

As always, Time will tell. Hope he gets the opportunity. Clearly Bud and Ferry weren't overly impressed with him.

[azuresou1]

It's one thing if you don't post stellar D-League stats. It's another if you post BAD D-League stats.

If this guy wasn't a first round pick would you be talking about him at all? Athletes with no balling skills are a dime a dozen in the D-League.

[Jamaaliver]

It's one thing if you don't post stellar D-League stats. It's another if you post BAD D-League stats.

If this guy wasn't a first round pick would you be talking about him at all?

Nope. It's BECAUSE scouts, executives, analysts thought he was worthy of a multi-year contract that I think he should get a chance to prove himself..

If we weren't paying him $1 million + I wouldn't give a rat's ass.

But, it looks like it's all academic as he has been put on waivers and is no longer with the team.

But yes, any player we draft or commit money/resources to...I think he should be given the opportunity to earn his paycheck.

Like i said, he's probably garbage, but I was just curious to see for certain under the tutelage of Mike Budenholzer, master of player development.....

[Rip2137]

Its not just him though...playing ALOT of minutes against NBA talent is a chance to prove yourself. Sheldon did and played great. Mike Scott did and played great. Jenkins did and played great. Dennis has and has played great. Cunningham did and sucked. You don't earn NBA time by playing bad in the D-League and I don't care who you are or when you were drafted.

[Jamaaliver]

It's over. he isn't on our team anymore. You're right. He's garbage.

You win. Let's move on.

[Rip2137]

Can I save that quote for the next time you start talking about Josh Smith?

[Jamaaliver]

Can I save that quote for the next time you start talking about Josh Smith?

As long as you include the part about him being garbage.