Wilson Chandler

[theBigLip]

From time to time, people have posted that we should trade for him. I actually haven't watched him play much, but I was just looking at the Sacramento-Denver box score with the game still in progress. Happy that Kings are winning, but looked at Chandlers line - 20 minutes played, 0-3 from the floor and 1 rebound. Not so special tonight.

[Phenomenonsense]

I think a lot of people liked him based on potential and a really good contract.

[ImHeisenberg]

I'm one of the fans of trading for him. He isn't an elite player, but he's an above average wing player who can guard the 2, 3 and 4 in many cases. He can knock down the 3. And, he has a relatively cap friendly contract as well.

Also, he could be a player that wouldn't be impossible to obtain. Like stated, he's having a bad night. He isn't a guy you can rely on for 20 points a game, but he's a steady well rounded player that could fit next to guys like Drummond and Monroe.

He probably could have been had for Stuckey and a future first rounder (if we could trade one).

[Phenomenonsense]

I'm one of the fans of trading for him. He isn't an elite player, but he's an above average wing player who can guard the 2, 3 and 4 in many cases. He can knock down the 3. And, he has a relatively cap friendly contract as well.

Also, he could be a player that wouldn't be impossible to obtain. Like stated, he's having a bad night. He isn't a guy you can rely on for 20 points a game, but he's a steady well rounded player that could fit next to guys like Drummond and Monroe.

He probably could have been had for Stuckey and a future first rounder (if we could trade one).

Above average might be a bit of an overstatement. He looks every part the average SF in my opinion, but he is above average if you consider talent/contract ratio. I would be okay with trading for him, but if I'm giving up Monroe, I would want Chandler and assets.

[DCintheD]

He sucks.

[theBigLip]

I didn't want to cast judgement on one game, but just get some more opinions on him. We certainly need a solid 3 who can make 3s, just doesn't seem like he is elite enough to take us to the next level, or at least not worthy of giving up Monroe for him. This is certainly something we need to look into this summer.

[HotelVitale]

I didn't want to cast judgement on one game, but just get some more opinions on him. We certainly need a solid 3 who can make 3s, just doesn't seem like he is elite enough to take us to the next level, or at least not worthy of giving up Monroe for him. This is certainly something we need to look into this summer.

I watched him a lot last year (not this year though) and he's a solid, smart, all-around player. He's good at creating off the dribble, he's a pretty good team defender, he can pass well if the situation calls for it, and he can shoot well. He's not at all-star efficiency level, but he would be a useful addition to any team and could help a team like the Pistons. His stats say he's an average player but I'd say he's a bit more valuable than that because his combination of skills--e.g. shot creation and defense--and his maturity are relatively rare.

That said, no one should think he's a stud. He can't be counted on to win you games or to run the offense for long stretches. He isn't extremely good at anything and most of his value fluctuates with how well he's shooting (if he shoots 47%, he's really useful, but at 41% he's not). He won't turn around the Pistons or become a major impact player. He's not worth our two young bucks (Monroe or Drummond) unless we absolutely decide that we can't pay Monroe what he wants.

[DocRI]

I didn't want to cast judgement on one game, but just get some more opinions on him. We certainly need a solid 3 who can make 3s, just doesn't seem like he is elite enough to take us to the next level, or at least not worthy of giving up Monroe for him. This is certainly something we need to look into this summer.

^ This (the highlighted portion), in my humble opinion.

And not to rail against Chandler fans, or any particular posters on these boards, but there seems to be a disconnect to me here that Chandler kinda encapsulates. On one hand, it seems like a majority of posters want to see Smith and/or Jennings and/or Monroe gone and a whole new team built around Drummond. On the other hand, it seems like there's a majority clamoring for underpaid role players who would fit a very particular need on this team as it's currently constructed (Chandler, Korver, etc.). And obviously, there can't be a majority of both!

I guess it can be argued that removing one of Smith or Moose would allow for a core of whomever we'd keep, Jennings and Dre to flourish if surrounded by the right role players (like Chandler). Personally, I'm still not sold Chandler is such an improvement to take us to the next level (as Big Lip wrote), and I'm also not sold on building around such a core trio, especially if it includes Smith.

[sc8581]

Chandler is a slightly better but more aggressive version of Prince on a very friendly contract, he's a #3 or 4 option that will have some big games here and there and defenders can't ever sleep on him. He can't succeed without at least a #1 option which we don't have here, he would likely end up being another "chucker" to most around here. Until we get a go-to-guy for the 4th quarter we will continue to blow games whether we defend or not.

[Damon_3388]

I think a lot of people liked him based on potential and a really good contract.

How much more untapped potential can he have left? He'll be 27 years old by the time next season starts (which will be the earliest we'd be able to get him).

I honestly don't think he's really improved that much since his second season. Has always teased, but never really taken that "next step" and delivered. Has been pretty injury prone over the past couple of years too.

[princeofpalace]

He had a bad game, big deal. He plays defense and can hit the 3, so he's a great fit. Nobody in their right mind would trade Monroe for him, but I wouldve liked to see if we couldve grabbed him for Charlie V.

With Gallo beieng out to the 2015 season though, Denver has no incentive to trade him.

Bottom line is, we need a wing can defend and shoot to compliment Monroe/Drummond. Chandler fits that bill. I would love to swing a Smith for Chandler/Hickson trade.

Jennings/KCP/Chandler/Monroe/Drummond is a step in the right direction

[Billl]

I don't understand the clamor for Chandler either. If we want a decent but not great SF on a reasonable contract, just play Singler at the 3.

The real hole in our lineup is at sg. We don't have a true sg on the roster that can knock down jumpers and handle the ball well enough to take some of the pressure off jennings. Everyone was hoping KCP could do that, but so far he's fallen way short. Now we are left plugging singler in at the 2 and creating the worst defensive backcourt in the league.

[theBigLip]

I don't understand the clamor for Chandler either. If we want a decent but not great SF on a reasonable contract, just play Singler at the 3.

The real hole in our lineup is at sg. We don't have a true sg on the roster that can knock down jumpers and handle the ball well enough to take some of the pressure off jennings. Everyone was hoping KCP could do that, but so far he's fallen way short. Now we are left plugging singler in at the 2 and creating the worst defensive backcourt in the league.

I think we need both SG and SF upgrades. KCP is fine for a #9 pick in a weak draft. If he keeps working hard, he'll be a starter/rotational player for many years, but not the 20ppg stud we want out there dropping bombs all game.

[Neptune]

I don't understand the clamor for Chandler either. If we want a decent but not great SF on a reasonable contract, just play Singler at the 3.

The real hole in our lineup is at sg. We don't have a true sg on the roster that can knock down jumpers and handle the ball well enough to take some of the pressure off jennings. Everyone was hoping KCP could do that, but so far he's fallen way short. Now we are left plugging singler in at the 2 and creating the worst defensive backcourt in the league.

We tried to play Singer at the 3 last season and we were terrible. Singler isn't a starting caliber player at all. Just like you said, with Singler starting next to Jennings we more than likely have the weakest defensive back courts in the league. I agree that our biggest need is a 2-guard, but having a good back-up 3 would help us when Smith moves to the 4. Chandler plays defense, he's a good rebounder, he can play multiple positions, and he can knock down the 3pter. Being that the Nuggets might miss the playoffs this season, I have no clue why we didn't offer CV, KCP, or Stuckey for Chandler.

[BadMofoPimp]

Chandler has never been as good as Prince was during his prime.

I really do like Chandler but would not trade Monroe, Drummond or KCP for him.

[Balrog]

I'm one of the fans of trading for him. He isn't an elite player, but he's an above average wing player who can guard the 2, 3 and 4 in many cases. He can knock down the 3. And, he has a relatively cap friendly contract as well.

Also, he could be a player that wouldn't be impossible to obtain. Like stated, he's having a bad night. He isn't a guy you can rely on for 20 points a game, but he's a steady well rounded player that could fit next to guys like Drummond and Monroe.

He probably could have been had for Stuckey and a future first rounder (if we could trade one).

Above average might be a bit of an overstatement. He looks every part the average SF in my opinion, but he is above average if you consider talent/contract ratio. I would be okay with trading for him, but if I'm giving up Monroe, I would want Chandler and assets.

Chandler is a glue guy type of player, which can help any team whether he starts or comes off the bench. I think he has a ceiling of Trevor Ariza in his laker days, and a floor of Sefolosha. Regardless, Chandler will carve out a solid role whichever team he plays. Get him Joe!

[jakebernat]

I think we need both SG and SF upgrades. KCP is fine for a #9 pick in a weak draft. If he keeps working hard, he'll be a starter/rotational player for many years, but not the 20ppg stud we want out there dropping bombs all game.

kcp is a keeper. maybe he'll never consistently light the scoreboard up, but athletic wings who can stretch the court, run the floor (he is FAST), and play defense have a place in this league. a little added strength and comfortability with the nba 3 point line will do him well.