ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee

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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#21 » by Laimbeer » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:31 pm

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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#22 » by MisterHibachi » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:51 pm

I think for the most part ardee will be able to run his Dirk/Nash pick and roll effectively. Pick and rolls require a lot of help from the wings, not just the two players defending the initial action. I don't know if Durant and JJ will be able to provide that kinda help consistently. Dirk post ups, the other major play call for ardee will be fine too, but I think Rashard can do as good a job as most 1 on 1 with Dirk (O_6 said he won't be throwing doubles, which is smart with those shooters), but of course I still expect Dirk to be very effective.

Ardee cannot stop O_6's offense. At all. While Durant, for 2 out of 3 years chosen here, was not great at putting the ball on the floor or playmaking, he could still drop buckets like no tmrw. I can see him averaging 30 ppg here on his usual efficiency, maybe even more.

There's about 3 major mismatches for ardee on defense, Dirk on Wallace, who can post him up (but won't be doing so, O_6 said), Rice on Durant, and Nash on JJ. It's okay to have one mismatch and try to lull the opponent into spamming that while ignoring the better options. But there's 3 MAJOR mismatches in the starting lineup. I know Rice won't be playing a lot of minutes with Durant, they'll be staggered minutes, but he's still in the starting lineup. Talent wise, these two teams are so close that you can't just spot O_6 such a major advantage in the first few minutes of the game and still expect to win. Even if Rice gets subbed out 5 minutes into the game, that'll be 5 minutes ardee will fighting to stay even with 3 major mismatches. After that, you'll be trying to get back in the game and I don't think ardee's team is capable of 8+ minutes of absolute lock down D, which will be needed to get back in the game; you can't just keep trading baskets.

I still expect Dirk and Nash to go bananas in most games and pull off a couple of wins.

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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#23 » by MisterHibachi » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:54 pm

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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#24 » by ardee » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:58 pm

Ah well.

I guess preliminary congratulations to O_6 are in order.

He was mostly touted as having the best team earlier in the draft, so at least this is not an upset.
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#26 » by whitehops » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:21 am

this is pretty redundant given the amount of votes 0_6 has received, but I truly think ardee's team would win.

i'm really surprised this was a 'blowout'. ardee really has an incredible team.
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#27 » by ThunderDan9 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:04 am

Theoretically, ardee could still be back, and pull out a miraculuos OT win in the 7th game. :lol:
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#28 » by john248 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:18 am

Vote O_6

6 games likely. Gave thoughts on the match-up on the 1st page.
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#29 » by ardee » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:23 am

ThunderDan9 wrote:Theoretically, ardee could still be back, and pull out a miraculuos OT win in the 7th game. :lol:


Honestly I thought you, me, O_6 and john248 had the four best teams and would be in the CFs.

Ah well, looks like it's over going by the vote above me. Good fight O_6, hope you win this thing.
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#30 » by ThunderDan9 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:53 am

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ThunderDan9 wrote:Theoretically, ardee could still be back, and pull out a miraculuos OT win in the 7th game. :lol:


Honestly I thought you, me, O_6 and john248 had the four best teams and would be in the CFs.


These 4 teams are in the same Conference. :o :lol:
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#31 » by MisterHibachi » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:59 pm

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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#32 » by O_6 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:35 pm

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ThunderDan9 wrote:Theoretically, ardee could still be back, and pull out a miraculuos OT win in the 7th game. :lol:


Honestly I thought you, me, O_6 and john248 had the four best teams and would be in the CFs.

Ah well, looks like it's over going by the vote above me. Good fight O_6, hope you win this thing.


Thanks, you had a great team. One of the best offensive teams ever and one of the top 3 offensive teams in this project. I think you have a strong argument for the #1 offense in this project because of that insane outside shooting to surround a dominant offensive anchor in Dirk. I kind of ripped your defense but only to sell my team in this matchup. Dumars/Bell/Pressey are all very strong perimeter defenders and Parish is obviously a good defender.

I do have to ask you about Alvan Adams. I'm not really familiar with him but he seems like a good passing big and underrated defender. I think it's interesting that you decided not to play him in this series.

Good series though. I think one of the problems with a tournament is that it is really matchup dependent. A power ranking from 1-16 would be interesting because you're taking all the teams into account instead of just individual matchups. Maybe I'll rank the teams 1-16 after I'm eliminated or the tournament is over. I think ardee's team was in my top 8 and possibly in my top 5.
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#33 » by john248 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:31 am

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ThunderDan9 wrote:Theoretically, ardee could still be back, and pull out a miraculuos OT win in the 7th game. :lol:


Honestly I thought you, me, O_6 and john248 had the four best teams and would be in the CFs.

Ah well, looks like it's over going by the vote above me. Good fight O_6, hope you win this thing.


That randomizer did no favors to the both of us. :lol: If your team had to go up against the best defense (IMO BruhMan), I'd pick your team. As they say...it's all about the match-ups...
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#34 » by ardee » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:09 am

john248 wrote:
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ThunderDan9 wrote:Theoretically, ardee could still be back, and pull out a miraculuos OT win in the 7th game. :lol:


Honestly I thought you, me, O_6 and john248 had the four best teams and would be in the CFs.

Ah well, looks like it's over going by the vote above me. Good fight O_6, hope you win this thing.


That randomizer did no favors to the both of us. :lol: If your team had to go up against the best defense (IMO BruhMan), I'd pick your team. As they say...it's all about the match-ups...


Yeah, just like the real league, the West-East imbalance is massive.

Whoever wins between ThunderDan and O_6, the guys who beat us, will win the tournament.
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#35 » by Gregoire » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:12 am

IMO Notanoob and Narigo have great case for win...
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Re: ATFL Western: (7) O_6 vs. (3) ardee 

Post#36 » by john248 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:35 am

ardee wrote:
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Honestly I thought you, me, O_6 and john248 had the four best teams and would be in the CFs.

Ah well, looks like it's over going by the vote above me. Good fight O_6, hope you win this thing.


That randomizer did no favors to the both of us. :lol: If your team had to go up against the best defense (IMO BruhMan), I'd pick your team. As they say...it's all about the match-ups...


Yeah, just like the real league, the West-East imbalance is massive.

Whoever wins between ThunderDan and O_6, the guys who beat us, will win the tournament.


You can always be a judge. It's actually quite boring though. lol
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