2014 Official FA Thread

Revived · Post #341 » by **Revived** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:30 am

Dirk isn't leaving Dallas. That would be like Kobe leaving the Lakers.

Dirk will retire a Mav.

BurningHeart · Post #342 » by **BurningHeart** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:46 am

Fredette is gonna be bought out. Really, really hope we sign him.

DirtyDez · Post #343 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:07 am

BurningHeart wrote:Fredette is gonna be bought out. Really, really hope we sign him.

I don't see the point with Bledsoe coming back and already having Green...

DirtyDez · Post #344 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:13 am

SF88 wrote:Dirk isn't leaving Dallas. That would be like Kobe leaving the Lakers.

Dirk will retire a Mav.

and I don't see Melo or Bosh going anywhere...

I like Lowe's piece regarding the Mavs-ian era of being really good for a decade+... Things are bound to go your way if you're winning every year and make the Finals where anything is possible. With a great backcourt like ours plus a star like Love we'd be top 2-3 in the West every season (and a great coach too).

bigfoot · Post #345 » by **bigfoot** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:18 am

SF88 wrote:Dirk isn't leaving Dallas. That would be like Kobe leaving the Lakers.

Dirk will retire a Mav.

Just like Nash retired as a Sun

bigfoot · Post #346 » by **bigfoot** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:20 am

DirtyDez wrote:
SF88 wrote:Dirk isn't leaving Dallas. That would be like Kobe leaving the Lakers.

Dirk will retire a Mav.

and I don't see Melo or Bosh going anywhere...

I like Lowe's piece regarding the Mavs-ian era of being really good for a decade+... Things are bound to go your way if you're winning every year and make the Finals where anything is possible. With a great backcourt like ours plus a star like Love we'd be top 2-3 in the West every season (and a great coach too).

Mavs have been good for a decade plus because of Dirk. Surround a superstar player with other good players and you should always have a chance.

Ryu · Post #347 » by **Ryu** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:21 am

INFORMER-93 wrote:
Ryu wrote:Trying to lure LeBron here should be a plan A, but I am torn between signing Ariza (7-8 mil, 3/4 years, probably) and simply drafting a SF this June as a plan B.

Wait, you want to give Ariza $7-8 million a year?!

Yes. That`s basically the money Matthews got from the Blazers and I think they are pretty similar kind of players. Solid, athletic role players with reliable shoot and good defence.

BurningHeart · Post #348 » by **BurningHeart** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:53 am

DirtyDez wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:Fredette is gonna be bought out. Really, really hope we sign him.

I don't see the point with Bledsoe coming back and already having Green...

When you're a run-and-gun team, you can never have enough dedicated shooters. I'd trust Fredette way more than I'd trust Bledsoe or Gerald Green.

INFORMER-93 · Post #349 » by **INFORMER-93** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:05 am

Ryu wrote:
INFORMER-93 wrote:
Ryu wrote:Trying to lure LeBron here should be a plan A, but I am torn between signing Ariza (7-8 mil, 3/4 years, probably) and simply drafting a SF this June as a plan B.

Wait, you want to give Ariza $7-8 million a year?!

Yes. That`s basically the money Matthews got from the Blazers and I think they are pretty similar kind of players. Solid, athletic role players with reliable shoot and good defence.

I think Matthews is a better player. But that's not important. What is important is that you're giving ridiculous money to a role player that isn't much better than what we already have. You're spending a lot to get a little bit better.

Ariza is a solid role player. He defends, hits the 3 ball, offers some athleticism. But that contract would be an overpay and offer very little value. The Suns aren't in a position where they need to do something like that.

What also needs to be acknowledged is that this is Ariza's first year of relevancy in a while, like 2-3 years. When that's true, you don't give a guy that hefty of a payday, unless you're Denver or Cleveland and enjoy handing out bad deals.

INFORMER-93 · Post #350 » by **INFORMER-93** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:06 am

BurningHeart wrote:I'd trust Fredette way more than I'd trust Bledsoe or Gerald Green.

Why?

BurningHeart · Post #351 » by **BurningHeart** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:14 am

INFORMER-93 wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:I'd trust Fredette way more than I'd trust Bledsoe or Gerald Green.

Why?

Because he's more consistent in his three point shooting?

INFORMER-93 · Post #352 » by **INFORMER-93** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:27 am

Jimmer hasn't been able to show he can do anything consistently. He hasn't even proven he's a NBA player. Some of that isn't his fault, but it still is reality.

Bledsoe and Green have won games for the Suns this year. So to say you trust Jimmer over them seems a little absurd.

BurningHeart · Post #353 » by **BurningHeart** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:42 am

When it comes to three point shooting, yes, I trust someone who's a dedicate three point shooter over either of them.

Revived · Post #354 » by **Revived** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:20 am

bigfoot wrote:
SF88 wrote:Dirk isn't leaving Dallas. That would be like Kobe leaving the Lakers.

Dirk will retire a Mav.

Just like Nash retired as a Sun

I don't think Nash ever brought a championship to Phoenix and he didn't stay as a Sun his whole life even before leaving for the Lakers.

Not even close to the same situation.

Wade would be a more accurate comparison.

bigfoot · Post #355 » by **bigfoot** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:40 pm

SF88 wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
SF88 wrote:Dirk isn't leaving Dallas. That would be like Kobe leaving the Lakers.

Dirk will retire a Mav.

Just like Nash retired as a Sun

I don't think Nash ever brought a championship to Phoenix and he didn't stay as a Sun his whole life even before leaving for the Lakers.

Not even close to the same situation.

Wade would be a more accurate comparison.

How about Jordan, Drexler, Karl Malone, Pippen ...

There are many superstar level players that left their teams. You can make the assumption that Dirk will retire a Mav. It is certainly the highest probability scenario but it is not 100% guaranteed.

Ring_Wanted · Post #356 » by **Ring_Wanted** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:09 pm

7-8M per is quite an overpay for Trevor Ariza. That's exactly the kind of contract a team like us needs to be careful about not handing out. Extremely marginal ratio between improvement and cost.

Saberestar · Post #357 » by **Saberestar** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:29 pm

I know that we have great chemistry right now and Plumlee will be an important part of our future BUT how about adquire a veteran and cheap center to fight now and in the playoffs? I was thinking about Marcus Camby....

News 2 weeks ago:

Free agent center Marcus Camby is progressing in his rehabilitation from foot surgery and expects to be fully healthy by February’s end to join an NBA team, a league source told RealGM. Camby, who underwent surgery before the season for a torn plantar fascia, returned to on-court activities two weeks ago and has shown positive signs in his rehab. Teams must finalize postseason-eligible players by March 1

it is an idea, because in playoffs I think Markieff and Frye will have to play around 40 minutes per game, because Plumlee is good right now for 15-20 minues at best, not making an impact like in the first part of the season.

Post #358 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:48 pm

Ring_Wanted wrote:7-8M per is quite an overpay for Trevor Ariza. That's exactly the kind of contract a team like us needs to be careful about not handing out. Extremely marginal ratio between improvement and cost.

I agree. I mentioned he'd be a nice fit, but I was talking more in the $4-5 million range. I think you'll find that teams will be less likely to spend between $6-10million on role players in the coming years. See the post from Grantland that rsavaj posted on one of these threads.

ShawnBronald · Post #359 » by **ShawnBronald** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:09 pm

Saberestar wrote:I know that we have great chemistry right now and Plumlee will be an important part of our future BUT how about adquire a veteran and cheap center to fight now and in the playoffs? I was thinking about Marcus Camby....

News 2 weeks ago:

Free agent center Marcus Camby is progressing in his rehabilitation from foot surgery and expects to be fully healthy by February’s end to join an NBA team, a league source told RealGM. Camby, who underwent surgery before the season for a torn plantar fascia, returned to on-court activities two weeks ago and has shown positive signs in his rehab. Teams must finalize postseason-eligible players by March 1

it is an idea, because in playoffs I think Markieff and Frye will have to play around 40 minutes per game, because Plumlee is good right now for 15-20 minues at best, not making an impact like in the first part of the season.

We're not going to win the Championship this year (and Camby certainly isn't going to change that). Making the playoffs is a great goal for this young squad and getting any kind of experience there will be huge moving forward. Filling the roster, or even just the center spot, with aging vets won't help anyone. I believe, if we're able to make the playoffs, it will be a great learning experience for Plumlee and Len to actually play and not sit and watch. On that same note, I think Hornacek needs to start playing Len more consistently. It could possibly help us now, but will definitely help in the future.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #360 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:10 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:I think Hornacek needs to start playing Len more consistently. It could possibly help us now, but will definitely help in the future.

Not that anyone noticed, but I've been a huge supporter of getting Len as much court time as possible. It's become clear, however, that the coaching staff is teaching him by restricting his court time. There have been a few examples throughout the season, but recently, there's the game against the Spurs where he wasn't able to control the defensive glass. They yanked him, and he didn't see the court again until garbage time.

Next game against the Rockets, he wasn't exactly being devoured by Howard (stole the ball from him, in fact), but he complained to the refs twice in about a minute. Yanked, and didn't see the court again.

There were earlier examples - didn't play after the hard foul on Nick Young, for instance - but I think Horny's method is showing. Rooks get court time early to show *themselves* what they can do in an NBA game. The staff uses that film to teach rookies what to do/not to do, and if they don't show progress on the court, or if they don't do what the coaching staff asks (like, don't tell the refs you didn't foul Dwight when you clearly fouled Dwight), then you sit on the bench, and must practice your way back into the rotation. Kill it in practice, pay your dues, and then you're back into the rotation - like Archie, now.

Len might have seen most of the action he'll see this year. He's got a lot to learn, and a lot to prove. The next big dose of Alex we'll get will be in summer league, I bet.